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Dove

And I promised myself I was leaving......

But hello everyone. It will be interesting to see how evolution acts on NGL  :wink:
Shaker

:lol:  I'd never thought of it like that.

Let's hope it's a beneficial, or at the very least neutral, mutation  8)
Lexilogio

:lol:

But where is the intermediate stage! The fish without gills!

Oh no!

Oxygen!

Can't .... breathe......
Shaft2101

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
BevIsHopeful

:lol:

So glad you couldn't keep this one promise.  xxoo
Dove

admin wrote:
:lol:  I'd never thought of it like that.

Let's hope it's a beneficial, or at the very least neutral, mutation  8)


Strange as it seems, I immediately viewed it in an evolutionary context. NGL is the parent; nglreturns is the child (admitedly this hermaphroditic type of reproduction is much more common to worms than to advanced lifeforms, but an analogy can only go so far). There has potentially been a mutation (at least in the choice of smilies! Just kidding - take your time on the details). But we also have a new environment and the possibility of new genes coming in from other sources.

The evolution will be fascinating to watch.

Dove
Dove

Bev wrote:
:lol:

So glad you couldn't keep this one promise.  xxoo


Well thank you kindly Bev.
Shaker

Dove wrote:
Strange as it seems, I immediately viewed it in an evolutionary context. NGL is the parent; nglreturns is the child (admitedly this hermaphroditic type of reproduction is much more common to worms than to advanced lifeforms, but an analogy can only go so far). There has potentially been a mutation (at least in the choice of smilies! Just kidding - take your time on the details). But we also have a new environment and the possibility of new genes coming in from other sources.

The evolution will be fascinating to watch.

Well that's a vote of confidence I guess, so thanks very much  8)
bnabernard

It seems that LA was not aware nor happy that ngl had been used for a new forum, whilst going forward, is it the christian thing to do, to take without notice or consent anothers brainchild?
Recognising that things were done in a hurry and had to be kept in an awareness mode would it perhaps be better after an ingatherin, a new name or LA's blessing.
I feel quite uncomfortable having been one of the first invited to the original ngl, and having love and respect for Little Angel who founded it, a bit like an et tu brutus.

bernard  :?
Shaft2101

TBH I'm sure LA will appreciate that because of the ridiculously short notice they had to start getting a replacement in place very rapidly. I agree that if she hadn't been consulted and had given a week's notice then it would be disrespectful, but lack of time forced the hand, I think.

Maybe she'll grace us here with her presence as a non-admin?
Shaker

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It seems that LA was not aware nor happy that ngl had been used for a new forum, whilst going forward, is it the christian thing to do, to take without notice or consent anothers brainchild?
Recognising that things were done in a hurry and had to be kept in an awareness mode would it perhaps be better after an ingatherin, a new name or LA's blessing.
I feel quite uncomfortable having been one of the first invited to the original ngl, and having love and respect for Little Angel who founded it, a bit like an et tu brutus.

I know exactly what you mean, bern, but FWIW, this site was - frankly - thrown up in a hell of a hurry. LA wasn't aware of it, but then, neither was anybody else. Everything you see here has been knocked up (sorry) in the space of a couple of hours - literally - by somebody who was learning it while he was doing it. (I know, say "it shows"). There was never, at any time, any intention to tread on LA's toes or say anything against her or the site or the hard work put in by a number of people there over a long space of time. Those of us who were at NGL for some time and grew to like it there were deeply dismayed by the decision to close it down, and I simply jumped in with my size 12s and threw this together in order for people to come to if they wanted to stay in touch.

There's no suggestion - at all - this this site was hurriedly set up intended to be a slight to LA or any of the mods or anybody else connected to NGL in any way, and it grieves me to think that it might be interpreted as such. The idea always was to keep the old gang together for those who wanted to stay in touch and, if possible, carry on in the same vein. I'm deeply upset that anyone, and especially LA herself, would think that this forum was created in order to poach on her preserves. The honest truth is that the whole thing was done in such a rush that I genuinely never thought about the name that she'd created or anything else.

ETA: the point about a new name altogether is well taken. I shall certainly see if it's possible. Suggestions, of course, are welcome.
BevIsHopeful

LA has such a kind heart, and I'm sure she will appreciate how your opening this forum was a rescue for a lot of hurting people.

I'm so sure she will see it this way, but surely the pain she's gone through on NGL will remain fresh for awhile.  Poor thing.
Shaker

That's understandable, but I'm gutted to think that she's gone away with the impression that this forum is in some perverse way some sort of attack or undermining of hers. Not only is that not the case, it's the direct opposite of the case.
gone

LA does seem very distressed, which is sad. :(

It might be a good idea to change the name of the forum if possible so LA doesn't think her nose is being rubbed in it.  

A couple of suggestions off the top of my head;-

'Gathered Together'
'Let Your Light shine'

BTW I am sometimes a bit slow on the uptake, but which ex-NGL poster is Admin? :)
BevIsHopeful

admin wrote:
That's understandable, but I'm gutted to think that she's gone away with the impression that this forum is in some perverse way some sort of attack or undermining of hers. Not only is that not the case, it's the direct opposite of the case.


Agree, and she will see it that way soon.  I'm sure of it.  She's too kind a spirit not too.
BevIsHopeful

Sarniajoy wrote:
LA does seem very distressed, which is sad. :(

It might be a good idea to change the name of the forum if possible so LA doesn't think her nose is being rubbed in it.  

A couple of suggestions off the top of my head;-

'Gathered Together'
'Let Your Light shine'


This is a very good suggestion!
gone

Bev wrote:
Sarniajoy wrote:
LA does seem very distressed, which is sad. :(

It might be a good idea to change the name of the forum if possible so LA doesn't think her nose is being rubbed in it.  

A couple of suggestions off the top of my head;-

'Gathered Together'
'Let Your Light shine'


This is a very good suggestion!


Thank you :)
Shaft2101

TBH I reckon it just needs a brief cooling-off period, let her get some perspective, and she probably won't even mind the name, let alone the principle of the thing. As you say, she's a good-spirited and kind-hearted woman (I'd venture to say she's an absolute delight, at least as I know her online), so I wouldn't fret too much over her initial reaction about here.
Shaker

Even so, if you have any more suggestions for a new name, or suggestions about anything else for that matter, shove them over in the ...er, well, Suggestions forum   :oops:
bnabernard

How about Brand new ark. (not bernies new ark  :lol: ) the rescue from the deluge.

I'm going to chat with LA if poss, I'm sure she would, after some thought, give her blessing and allow the gang to continue with the name, just like God allowed Adam and eve to get on with it , so to speak?

bernard  :lol:
Shaker

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I'm going to chat with LA if poss, I'm sure she would, after some thought, give her blessing and allow the gang to continue with the name

I hope so, and I hope you'll convey the good wishes and best regards of everybody here too.
Dove

bnabernard wrote:
I'm going to chat with LA if poss


I will as well. I don't doubt for a second doubt that Admin acted with a very good heart. I didn't realise LA was upset but I hope we can smooth this out. For the meantime I hope people can understand if I drop out (hopefully temporarily) as we get things smoothed with LA.

Admin - I'm 100% sure you have no reason to feal bad about this new forum; I'm sure we all see that you started this forum out of fondness for NGL and not out of anything else. God bless you (and please just take that as "best wishes" if you prefer). I hope, pray and trust to rejoin you very soon.

Dove (Michael)
bnabernard

I'd just like to thank admin for the time and effort to get things together in such a short time, less my un understanderble demon is at work and I am not comming across as aprecieative  :lol:

bernard ...and all who sail in her (get the hug icon working though will yu  :roll:   :lol: )

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