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JamesJah

Are most Christians still asleep

Have Christians today take seriously what they should be wide awake to the problems that are coming on the inhabited earth?

Are they still musing over religious traditions instead of focusing on what the Almighty God's will is for them in these last days?

Do most Christians know what God's will is?



Matthew 24:42
Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

Matthew 7:24-27
Therefore, everyone who hears these sayings of mine and does them will be like a discreet man who built his house on the rock.

And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and lashed against that house, but it did not cave in, for it had been founded on the rock.

 Furthermore, everyone hearing these sayings of mine and not doing them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and struck against that house, and it caved in, and its collapse was great.

So what do Christians think they should be doing today?
JMC

Christians should be giving thanks, praising God, and looking forward to the Judgement, or parousia.

That's precisely what happens in the Liturgy which you, no doubt, characterize as a religious tradition.
Jim

JMC wrote:
Christians should be giving thanks, praising God, and looking forward to the Judgement, or parousia.  


AMEN!

That's precisely what happens in the Liturgy which you, no doubt, characterize as a religious tradition.
JamesJah

JMC wrote:
Christians should be giving thanks, praising God, and looking forward to the Judgement, or parousia.

That's precisely what happens in the Liturgy which you, no doubt, characterize as a religious tradition.


No eating and drinking I had in mind, many are still buzzy with feast days and holy days while Noah is buzzy building the ark.

Did Jesus say>>>\/

Matthew 24:37-39
For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.


Matthew 24:9-12
Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name.  Then, too, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. Many false prophets will arise and mislead many; and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold.

Are Christians prepared for the hatred of that comes upon all those doing the will of the Almighty?
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What a crazy thread!
The Boyg

Perhaps they should be denigrating their deceased parents instead?
JamesJah

Floo wrote:
What a crazy thread!


1 Corinthians 1:18-21
For the speech about the torture stake is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is God’s power. For it is written: “I will make the wisdom of the wise men perish, and the intelligence of the intellectuals I will reject.” Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this system of things? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not get to know God through its wisdom, God was pleased through the foolishness of what is preached to save those believing.
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JMC

JamesJah wrote:

Are Christians prepared for the hatred of that comes upon all those doing the will of the Almighty?


No doubt some are and some are not. The best way to be prepared though is as I've already mentioned: giving thanks, praising God, and looking forward to the Judgement.

This happens at the Liturgy, though it is something that can/should be done all the time in one way or another.

JamesJah

JMC wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

Are Christians prepared for the hatred of that comes upon all those doing the will of the Almighty?


No doubt some are and some are not. The best way to be prepared though is as I've already mentioned: giving thanks, praising God, and looking forward to the Judgement.

This happens at the Liturgy, though it is something that can/should be done all the time in one way or another.



Nothing wrong with being thankful that is for certain.

Many find it hard to live in harmony with God's purpose for the earth.

Christians who choose not to go to war against their fellow Christians can often find themselves ostracised even by their own church is that not the case?

How many Christians today know why the world is so hate filled?

Revelation 12:12
On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.

How many Christians are there who know when this took place?
JMC

JamesJah wrote:

Christians who choose not to go to war against their fellow Christians can often find themselves ostracised even by their own church is that not the case?


No, I wouldn't say often at all. Like your comments about "sleeping" Christians, most of your comments are so broad as almost certainly refer to at least a few professing Christians, but not indicative of any major flaw in the church they belong to.
JamesJah

JMC wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

Christians who choose not to go to war against their fellow Christians can often find themselves ostracised even by their own church is that not the case?


No, I wouldn't say often at all. Like your comments about "sleeping" Christians, most of your comments are so broad as almost certainly refer to at least a few professing Christians, but not indicative of any major flaw in the church they belong to.


Perhaps you do not meet to many of them in your travels.

Most I meet try not to concern themselves with the signs of the times.
JamesJah

JMC wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

Christians who choose not to go to war against their fellow Christians can often find themselves ostracised even by their own church is that not the case?


No, I wouldn't say often at all. Like your comments about "sleeping" Christians, most of your comments are so broad as almost certainly refer to at least a few professing Christians, but not indicative of any major flaw in the church they belong to.


Perhaps you do not meet to many of them in your travels.

Most I meet try not to concern themselves with the signs of the times.
JMC

JamesJah wrote:

Perhaps you do not meet to many of them in your travels.

Most I meet try not to concern themselves with the signs of the times.


Hmmm.... but when you are meeting these people is it in the context of your doorstepping them with copies of the Watchtower etc? I think that might be more relevant to their apparent lack of interest and/or evasiveness.  
Ketty

Re: Are most Chrisrians still assleep

JamesJah wrote:
Are most Chrisrians still assleep?


Surely each individual should be more concerned as to whether or not they themselves are watchful?
JamesJah

JMC wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

Perhaps you do not meet to many of them in your travels.

Most I meet try not to concern themselves with the signs of the times.


Hmmm.... but when you are meeting these people is it in the context of your doorstepping them with copies of the Watchtower etc? I think that might be more relevant to their apparent lack of interest and/or evasiveness.  


Most times now days, but when I was with St. Lawrence's I used to sing iin a number of cathedrals as our quire master was quite renown for his expertise.

Then when I was in the RAF I managed Malta and Jerusalem.

The amount of hypocrisy in Jerusalem was a shock to the system I must say I just thought if Jesus came hear he would be appalled at how apostate this place had become.

Then it was just the same the first time he was there was it not?

It certainly woke me up to what is and what is not the true Christian way.
JamesJah

Re: Are most Chrisrians still assleep

Ketty wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Are most Chrisrians still assleep?


Surely each individual should be more concerned as to whether or not they themselves are watchful?


That is what Jesus recommended did he not?

Matthew 7:24
.Therefore, everyone who hears these sayings of mine and does them will be like a discreet man who built his house on the rock.
JMC

JamesJah wrote:

Most times now days, but when I was with St. Lawrence's I used to sing iin a number of cathedrals as our quire master was quite renown for his expertise.

Then when I was in the RAF I managed Malta and Jerusalem.

The amount of hypocrisy in Jerusalem was a shock to the system I must say I just thought if Jesus came hear he would be appalled at how apostate this place had become.

Then it was just the same the first time he was there was it not?

It certainly woke me up to what is and what is not the true Christian way.


To be honest, I think it's a bit sad that you would leave something because you thought it was corrupt and yet after so many years still be so committed and vocal about bashing it. It shows that the revulsion you felt didn't lead to anything positive, because the revulsion is still with you. At the very least it doesn't say much positive about the place you've ended up.

Ultimately, the reason I belong to the Church, and believe it to be the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, is not because it is perfect (after all, if it were I would not be able to be a part of it). The reason I believe it to be the "true church" is because the (sometimes many) imperfections are exactly where you would expect them to be: in the human element.

I don't know how many other Christians feel the same way, but I would suggest it's quite a few. Therefore, constant, repeated accusations about how corrupt people can be whilst simultaneously calling themselves Christians does not convince. Boasts about the moral rectitude (blood transfusion debates aside) and strict pacifism of the JWs do not convince. Repentant "publicans" do not enter churches where everyone is apparently above reproach, because they wouldn't consider themselves worthy enough: its only proud "pharisees" who would enter a church that concentrated so much on telling the world how less corrupt they are than other churches.
JamesJah

JMC wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

Most times now days, but when I was with St. Lawrence's I used to sing iin a number of cathedrals as our quire master was quite renown for his expertise.

Then when I was in the RAF I managed Malta and Jerusalem.

The amount of hypocrisy in Jerusalem was a shock to the system I must say I just thought if Jesus came hear he would be appalled at how apostate this place had become.

Then it was just the same the first time he was there was it not?

It certainly woke me up to what is and what is not the true Christian way.


To be honest, I think it's a bit sad that you would leave something because you thought it was corrupt and yet after so many years still be so committed and vocal about bashing it. It shows that the revulsion you felt didn't lead to anything positive, because the revulsion is still with you. At the very least it doesn't say much positive about the place you've ended up.

Ultimately, the reason I belong to the Church, and believe it to be the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, is not because it is perfect (after all, if it were I would not be able to be a part of it). The reason I believe it to be the "true church" is because the (sometimes many) imperfections are exactly where you would expect them to be: in the human element.

I don't know how many other Christians feel the same way, but I would suggest it's quite a few. Therefore, constant, repeated accusations about how corrupt people can be whilst simultaneously calling themselves Christians does not convince. Boasts about the moral rectitude (blood transfusion debates aside) and strict pacifism of the JWs do not convince. Repentant "publicans" do not enter churches where everyone is apparently above reproach, because they wouldn't consider themselves worthy enough: its only proud "pharisees" who would enter a church that concentrated so much on telling the world how less corrupt they are than other churches.


It is not so much trying to justify our selves by works but an effort to get back to what Jesus taught and what his father require of us.

There are some big changes taking place which Jesus warned Christians to look out for so that they would not be embroiled in the degenerating behaviour of the end days which he warned would be as bad as the days before the flood did he not?

In fact some major religions have become so corrupt that Christians are advised to flee from the.

Revelation 18:4-8
.I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. 

For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. Repay her in the way she treated others, yes, pay her back double for the things she has done; in the cup she has mixed, mix a double portion for her. To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For she keeps saying in her heart: ‘I sit as queen, and I am not a widow, and I will never see mourning.’ That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong.
Jim

JMC wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

Most times now days, but when I was with St. Lawrence's I used to sing iin a number of cathedrals as our quire master was quite renown for his expertise.

Then when I was in the RAF I managed Malta and Jerusalem.

The amount of hypocrisy in Jerusalem was a shock to the system I must say I just thought if Jesus came hear he would be appalled at how apostate this place had become.

Then it was just the same the first time he was there was it not?

It certainly woke me up to what is and what is not the true Christian way.


To be honest, I think it's a bit sad that you would leave something because you thought it was corrupt and yet after so many years still be so committed and vocal about bashing it. It shows that the revulsion you felt didn't lead to anything positive, because the revulsion is still with you. At the very least it doesn't say much positive about the place you've ended up.

Ultimately, the reason I belong to the Church, and believe it to be the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, is not because it is perfect (after all, if it were I would not be able to be a part of it). The reason I believe it to be the "true church" is because the (sometimes many) imperfections are exactly where you would expect them to be: in the human element.

I don't know how many other Christians feel the same way, but I would suggest it's quite a few. Therefore, constant, repeated accusations about how corrupt people can be whilst simultaneously calling themselves Christians does not convince. Boasts about the moral rectitude (blood transfusion debates aside) and strict pacifism of the JWs do not convince. Repentant "publicans" do not enter churches where everyone is apparently above reproach, because they wouldn't consider themselves worthy enough: its only proud "pharisees" who would enter a church that concentrated so much on telling the world how less corrupt they are than other churches.
 

Amen and Amen!
Sebastian Toe

JamesJah wrote:

How many Christians are there who know when this took place?


427?
Jim

Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

How many Christians are there who know when this took place?


427?
   


.....or even 42?
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

How many Christians are there who know when this took place?


427?
   


.....or even 42?


Most of the don't know Christians hate the ones that do why is that?
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

How many Christians are there who know when this took place?


427?
   


.....or even 42?


Most of the don't know Christians hate the ones that do why is that?  

Wot?
42?
Ask Slartibartfarst.


LeClerc

Re: Are most Christians still asleep

JamesJah wrote:
Have Christians today take seriously what they should be wide awake to the problems that are coming on the inhabited earth?

Are they still musing over religious traditions instead of focusing on what the Almighty God's will is for them in these last days?

Do most Christians know what God's will is?

Matthew 24:42
Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.


In Matthew 24 verse 42, which you have quoted, those who heard Y'shua's message, how would they have understood Y'shua to mean ''your Lord'' ?

Exodus 23 ASV
17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord Jehovah

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Re: Are most Christians still asleep

LeClerc wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Have Christians today take seriously what they should be wide awake to the problems that are coming on the inhabited earth?

Are they still musing over religious traditions instead of focusing on what the Almighty God's will is for them in these last days?

Do most Christians know what God's will is?

Matthew 24:42
Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.


In Matthew 24 verse 42, which you have quoted, those who heard Y'shua's message, how would they have understood Y'shua to mean ''your Lord'' ?

Exodus 23 ASV
17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord Jehovah

Regards

LeClerc


Do you do that???
LeClerc

Re: Are most Christians still asleep

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Have Christians today take seriously what they should be wide awake to the problems that are coming on the inhabited earth?

Are they still musing over religious traditions instead of focusing on what the Almighty God's will is for them in these last days?

Do most Christians know what God's will is?

Matthew 24:42
Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.


In Matthew 24 verse 42, which you have quoted, those who heard Y'shua's message, how would they have understood Y'shua to mean ''your Lord'' ?

Exodus 23 ASV
17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord Jehovah

An answer to the question might be helpful.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Re: Are most Christians still asleep

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Have Christians today take seriously what they should be wide awake to the problems that are coming on the inhabited earth?

Are they still musing over religious traditions instead of focusing on what the Almighty God's will is for them in these last days?

Do most Christians know what God's will is?

Matthew 24:42
Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.


In Matthew 24 verse 42, which you have quoted, those who heard Y'shua's message, how would they have understood Y'shua to mean ''your Lord'' ?

Exodus 23 ASV
17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord Jehovah

An answer to the question might be helpful.

Regards

LeClerc



1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many“gods and many “lords,

 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is

one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
Sebastian Toe

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

How many Christians are there who know when this took place?


427?
   


.....or even 42?


Most of the don't know Christians hate the ones that do why is that?


Why do you hate them?
LeClerc

Re: Are most Christians still asleep

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Have Christians today take seriously what they should be wide awake to the problems that are coming on the inhabited earth?

Are they still musing over religious traditions instead of focusing on what the Almighty God's will is for them in these last days?

Do most Christians know what God's will is?

Matthew 24:42
Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.


In Matthew 24 verse 42, which you have quoted, those who heard Y'shua's message, how would they have understood Y'shua to mean ''your Lord'' ?

Exodus 23 ASV
17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord Jehovah

An answer to the question might be helpful.

Regards

LeClerc



1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many“gods and many “lords,

 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is

one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.


Then why do you have two Gods and two Lords ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Re: Are most Christians still asleep

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Have Christians today take seriously what they should be wide awake to the problems that are coming on the inhabited earth?

Are they still musing over religious traditions instead of focusing on what the Almighty God's will is for them in these last days?

Do most Christians know what God's will is?

Matthew 24:42
Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.


In Matthew 24 verse 42, which you have quoted, those who heard Y'shua's message, how would they have understood Y'shua to mean ''your Lord'' ?

Exodus 23 ASV
17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord Jehovah

An answer to the question might be helpful.

Regards

LeClerc



1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many“gods and many “lords,

 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is

one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.


Then why do you have two Gods and two Lords ?

Regards

LeClerc


We have only one Almighty god the same as Abraham and Moses, and one mediator who is a mighty god and lord over all other things.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,
LeClerc

Re: Are most Christians still asleep

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Have Christians today take seriously what they should be wide awake to the problems that are coming on the inhabited earth?

Are they still musing over religious traditions instead of focusing on what the Almighty God's will is for them in these last days?

Do most Christians know what God's will is?

Matthew 24:42
Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.


In Matthew 24 verse 42, which you have quoted, those who heard Y'shua's message, how would they have understood Y'shua to mean ''your Lord'' ?

Exodus 23 ASV
17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord Jehovah

An answer to the question might be helpful.

Regards

LeClerc



1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many“gods and many “lords,

 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is

one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.


Then why do you have two Gods and two Lords ?

Regards

LeClerc


We have only one Almighty god the same as Abraham and Moses, and one mediator who is a mighty god and lord over all other things.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,


No James you have two Gods and two Lords.

Regards

LeClerc

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