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JamesJah

Brain pollution

What are governments about to do with the  masses they have programed?

Are you among them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBfIA98ieRA
Leonard James

Re: Brain pollutio

JamesJah wrote:
What are governments about to do with the  masses they have programed?


The same as your church is going to do with the masses they have programmed, including you. Continue to brainwash them.

Quote:
Are you among them?


Fortunately, no.
Sebastian Toe

Re: Brain pollutio

JamesJah wrote:
What are governments about to do with the  masses they have programed?

Are you among them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBfIA98ieRA


I only needed to watch it until the phrase '..minions, who regurgitate whatever they are told' was heard.

Thanks James for reminding me exactly what you are.....
Jim

Re: Brain pollutio

Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
What are governments about to do with the  masses they have programed?

Are you among them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBfIA98ieRA


I only needed to watch it until the phrase '..minions, who regurgitate whatever they are told' was heard.

Thanks James for reminding me exactly what you are.....


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Yep!
trentvoyager

The thread title brought the weather forecaster Carol Kirkwood to mind.

When it is hot weather she sometimes refers to it as being "scorchio" - I suppose if there is a smog we could adopt the phrase "Pollutio"
JamesJah

Why do people say where ignorance is bliss it is folly to be wise?

Does not the bible teach to warn the foolish and those heading for the slippery slope even if they are too foolish to listen?
trentvoyager

Why does the sun keep on shining?

Why does the sea rush to shore?
Jim

....or
Does your chewing gum lose its' flavour on the bedpost overnight?
JamesJah

trentvoyager wrote:
Why does the sun keep on shining?

Why does the sea rush to shore?


Misconception one the sun get a blackout from time to time.

Are you shore of what you sea or is it all an illusion?
JamesJah

It is now a standard policy in schools to dumb down the peasants education and remove religion from the curriculum is that ok with you all?

There are still many Christians who think that the mark of the beast is a literal one how about you lot?



Ezekiel 9:4
Jehovah said to him: “Go through the city, through Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who are sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that are being done in the city.

Did any one see the mark?
Sebastian Toe

JamesJah wrote:
Why do people say where ignorance is bliss it is folly to be wise?

Does not the bible teach to warn the foolish and those heading for the slippery slope even if they are too foolish to listen?


You have been warned of your foolishness far too often for it to be anything other than a fact that you have not listened and have not only headed for but slid down and finally hit the bottom of the slippery slope of willful foolishness.

By the way as you are the most experienced here of following blindly, what is it like to be a minion who only regurgitates what he is told?
JamesJah

Malachi 4:5, 6
Look! I am sending to you people Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and fear-inspiring day of Jehovah. And he must turn the heart of fathers back toward sons, and the heart of sons back toward fathers; in order that I may not come and actually strike the earth with a devoting [of it] to destruction


How many have seen him so far?
Sebastian Toe

JamesJah wrote:
Malachi 4:5, 6
Look! I am sending to you people Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and fear-inspiring day of Jehovah. And he must turn the heart of fathers back toward sons, and the heart of sons back toward fathers; in order that I may not come and actually strike the earth with a devoting [of it] to destruction


How many have seen him so far?
slippy slidey James.
JamesJah

Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Malachi 4:5, 6
Look! I am sending to you people Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and fear-inspiring day of Jehovah. And he must turn the heart of fathers back toward sons, and the heart of sons back toward fathers; in order that I may not come and actually strike the earth with a devoting [of it] to destruction


How many have seen him so far?
slippy slidey James.


Where did you get all the strange things you post from?

Who pumped the ideas you have into your head?

Why would any sain well adjusted person jump up and down in a frock?
Sebastian Toe

JamesJah wrote:
Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Malachi 4:5, 6
Look! I am sending to you people Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and fear-inspiring day of Jehovah. And he must turn the heart of fathers back toward sons, and the heart of sons back toward fathers; in order that I may not come and actually strike the earth with a devoting [of it] to destruction


How many have seen him so far?
slippy slidey James.


Where did you get all the strange things you post from?

Who pumped the ideas you have into your head?

Why would any sain well adjusted person jump up and down in a frock?
All my own ideas James as I am not a minion who has all of his power of self determination and free thought removed by some cult corporation masquerading as something else. Not like some I could mention on this very forum.

A frock James? Try telling that to the Greek army guards!
JamesJah

2 Peter 3:3, 4
.First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.”

What are the ridiculers going to say about this????>>>\/



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwBX66OuI7g
ELEVENSES81

trentvoyager wrote:
The thread title brought the weather forecaster Carol Kirkwood to mind.

When it is hot weather she sometimes refers to it as being "scorchio" - I suppose if there is a smog we could adopt the phrase "Pollutio"


Actually Carol has no meterological training at all other than that provided  by her BBC secondment to the Met Office. She was just the usual BBC graduate trainee who got into news reading.  Mind you compared to Ulrika and Wincey Willis she is the ultimate professional.
trentvoyager

ELEVENSES81 wrote:
trentvoyager wrote:
The thread title brought the weather forecaster Carol Kirkwood to mind.

When it is hot weather she sometimes refers to it as being "scorchio" - I suppose if there is a smog we could adopt the phrase "Pollutio"


Actually Carol has no meterological training at all other than that provided  by her BBC secondment to the Met Office. She was just the usual BBC graduate trainee who got into news reading.  Mind you compared to Ulrika and Wincey Willis she is the ultimate professional.


Ah - I didn't know that. Still I'm very fond of her first thing in the morning.*

* And you at the back boy - stop sniggering
cyberman

JamesJah wrote:
It is now a standard policy in schools to dumb down the peasants education and remove religion from the curriculum


That is completely wrong. First of all, in Britain we do not have a peasantry. Our economy hasn't been structured that way for some centuries. Secondly, it is not the case that schools have a standard policy of removing religion from the curriculum. RE is regulated curriculum content, and cannot easily be omitted.

Your usual ploy at this point is to ask some unintelligible question, like "Who are the tortoises rebuked by Amos?". Go ahead...
JamesJah

cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
It is now a standard policy in schools to dumb down the peasants education and remove religion from the curriculum


That is completely wrong. First of all, in Britain we do not have a peasantry. Our economy hasn't been structured that way for some centuries. Secondly, it is not the case that schools have a standard policy of removing religion from the curriculum. RE is regulated curriculum content, and cannot easily be omitted.

Your usual ploy at this point is to ask some unintelligible question, like "Who are the tortoises rebuked by Amos?". Go ahead...


When my children moved to a new school they raised the level of education by calling it a college, but the children still had all the same problems as the old days peasants they just hide the name.
JamesJah

Shaker

cyberman wrote:
First of all, in Britain we do not have a peasantry.


[snob]There's this programme called The Jeremy Kyle Show, on ITV1 weekday mornings, which gives the lie to this[/snob]
JamesJah

Who is going to give us back our magnetic shield when science has finished mucking about with it???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJ576RHDzg
cyberman

JamesJah wrote:
cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
It is now a standard policy in schools to dumb down the peasants education and remove religion from the curriculum


That is completely wrong. First of all, in Britain we do not have a peasantry. Our economy hasn't been structured that way for some centuries. Secondly, it is not the case that schools have a standard policy of removing religion from the curriculum. RE is regulated curriculum content, and cannot easily be omitted.

Your usual ploy at this point is to ask some unintelligible question, like "Who are the tortoises rebuked by Amos?". Go ahead...


When my children moved to a new school they raised the level of education by calling it a college, but the children still had all the same problems as the old days peasants they just hide the name.


They don't just hide the name. The fact is that they are not peasants. Their relationship with land ownership is simply all wrong for that term to be applied. Peasants were actually far from being the bottom rung, by the way. (This varies from country to country and from century to century, but peasants are not the lowest or least powerful class).

So, your kids had to go to a different school and you found some working class kids there and you don't like them. Fine. What's all this about the standard policy in schools being to remove RE?
cyberman

JamesJah wrote:
Who is going to give us back our magnetic shield when science has finished mucking about with it???

 


Oh, man - I used to read these comics, but I can't remember this one. Is it one of the X-Men?
JamesJah

cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Who is going to give us back our magnetic shield when science has finished mucking about with it???

 


Oh, man - I used to read these comics, but I can't remember this one. Is it one of the X-Men?


You do live on this planet? I know it is not released on the news channels but there are ways of keeping up to date, I mean you have hared that the atom bomb is real and not fiction have you not?

How about some of the  cyclotron colliders?

How about the weakening of the magnetic flux of the earth and the possibility of a pole change?

I do believe planet X is getting the blame even though NASA has only just decided to recognise it, or have they?

Worked out yet why America was struck by every sort of disaster this year?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBfIA98ieRA
JamesJah

Does Harpp give us an example of what goes around comes around?

Like do unto others as you would like them to do to you?
Jim

All Harp ever did was give me wind.
I haven't touched it since.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
All Harp ever did was give me wind.
I haven't touched it since.



This one is spelt with two Ps the stuff you had used to make me fat nice drink in the summer though.

The other Harpp is an new electronic device for altering the weather.

It also looks like the giant magnetic cyclotrons that have been built have altered the magnetic flux of the earth and governments are blaming planet X or Nubaru as it may be.

punch in planet X on U Tube or harp or click on this URL below.

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c34U0Pwz4_c
Jim

Didn't you know Planet X doesn't exist anymore?
It's real name was Mondas and the Doctor helped in its' destruction.
Ask Cyberman.
Shaker

Jim wrote:
Didn't you know Planet X doesn't exist anymore?
It's real name was Mondas and the Doctor helped in its' destruction.
Ask Cyberman.


Oh yes, he's into all that ... thing
Jim

Shaker wrote:
Jim wrote:
Didn't you know Planet X doesn't exist anymore?
It's real name was Mondas and the Doctor helped in its' destruction.
Ask Cyberman.


Oh yes, he's into all that ... thing


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Sorry about this - he's not the only one!
"The Tenth Planet" (Hartnell's swan song) was a brilliant story.

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When I go to Presbytery to try to get a decent sleep, I meet a friend of mine, Rev Ian McGlachlan
http://whospecialfeatures.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Ian_McLachlan
There is now an unwritten rule in the order of business that we are separated by at least twenty seats at each sitting.
(Doesn't work on the committees, though - Ian and I are members of the same one.
Occasionally, we deal with bits of church stuff.
Not very often, if we can help it.)
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
Didn't you know Planet X doesn't exist anymore?
It's real name was Mondas and the Doctor helped in its' destruction.
Ask Cyberman.


I know the giant Cyclotrons exist, and I know the earth magnetic flux is being distorted,

I heard from most the same places as any on, what was getting the blame, so it is no surprise to me that the information can not to be relied upon, which is why I mentioned them.

Do you see the prophecy which indicates  that the earth will tip over?


For those that would like to get some details of Harpp>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UD3yUEl5EM
Jim

The earth's magnetic poles have 'tipped over' many times.
That isn't rocket science - it's geology.

(Mind you, the Daleks weren't chuffed when the Doctor used magnetism to thwart them in 2156 - and again in the Big Finish story Lucie Miller.
Shaker

Oh bloody hell!  
Jim

Shaker wrote:
Oh bloody hell!  



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Erm...
If you tune into BBC Radio 4 Extra, RIGHT NOW, you'll get the conclusion of the Lucie Miller story...staring Paul McGhan as the eighth Doctor....and Grahame Garden as the 'Meddling Monk'.......
JamesJah

This scripture suddenly takes on greater ,meaning.

Matthew 24:37-39
For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,

and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away

Matthew 24:29, 30
Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

 Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief. . .
Jim

What "common meaning" between the above Scriptures and Doctor Who?
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
What "common meaning" between the above Scriptures and Doctor Who?


The Ananahky before the flood and the ignoring of the imminent disaster.



You might not be too bothered about the news of the Country that has sown the wind and is now reaping the whirl wind, but here is a small look?

See URL below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp4YrBjcT1w
Jim

Oh, heck!
The Annanuki?
Nabiru?
You're going to mention the illuminati for a triple whammy, aren't you?
JamesJah

Any one who is indoctrinated and happy to be that way should not really come to discussion forums should they?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MalYSn_qIU4
Leonard James

JamesJah wrote:
Any one who is indoctrinated and happy to be that way should not really come to discussion forums should they?


So now explain to us why you are here, since you seem quite happy with your indoctrination.
Powwow

Tell me about how Kingdom Hall leaders deal with JWs that dare to question or disagree with any teachings coming out of the watch tower JJ. I have seen what happens, as a good friend of mine was raised a JW and she and her JW mom have to be very sneaky when they refuse to shun JWs that are being disciplined by their local Kingdom Hall.
JamesJah

Leonard James wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Any one who is indoctrinated and happy to be that way should not really come to discussion forums should they?


So now explain to us why you are here, since you seem quite happy with your indoctrination.


I have been indoctrinated by this this world the same as you, the big difference is I see it as indoctrination but you seem unable to see it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYLjJJq0WMc
JamesJah

pow wow wrote:
Tell me about how Kingdom Hall leaders deal with JWs that dare to question or disagree with any teachings coming out of the watch tower JJ. I have seen what happens, as a good friend of mine was raised a JW and she and her JW mom have to be very sneaky when they refuse to shun JWs that are being disciplined by their local Kingdom Hall.


Do they? some do think like the world that they can say one thing then do another, each one has his own reward for what he does regardless of what he believes or thinks, that includes your good self.

Hebrews 10:35-37
Therefore, do not throw away your boldness, which will be richly rewarded. For you need endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the fulfilment of the promise. For yet “a very little while,” and “the one who is coming will arrive and will not delay.. . .


Revelation 11:18
But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.. . .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYLjJJq0WMc
Powwow

So how do the leaders in your local kingdom hall deal with those that don't agree with what the watchtower tells them? Are they shunned by the congregation until they are in full submission again? Are only the Kingdom hall leaders allowed to talk to the shunned JJ?
JamesJah

pow wow wrote:
So how do the leaders in your local kingdom hall deal with those that don't agree with what the watchtower tells them? Are they shunned by the congregation until they are in full submission again? Are only the Kingdom hall leaders allowed to talk to the shunned JJ?


Serious immorality and criminal activity is dealt with so as to keep the main body of beliers uncontaminated.

Contamination of the minds and body are not too well understood by the world of mankind that keeps desiring to gratify the flesh.
Powwow

Why won't you tell us how your Kingdom Hall leaders treat members that question or object to watchtower teachings. Why won't you tell us about your shunning. I've been in the home of a young JW couple that were being shunned by the congregation. My friend and her mom refused to shun them and made them welcome in their home but they made it clear to me they were disobeying the watchtower and their kingdom hall by not shunning them. Interesting that you are not comfortable posting openly about kingdom hall discipline.
Jim

pow wow wrote:
Why won't you tell us how your Kingdom Hall leaders treat members that question or object to watchtower teachings. Why won't you tell us about your shunning. I've been in the home of a young JW couple that were being shunned by the congregation. My friend and her mom refused to shun them and made them welcome in their home but they made it clear to me they were disobeying the watchtower and their kingdom hall by not shunning them. Interesting that you are not comfortable posting openly about kingdom hall discipline.


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Come off it, pow wow.
You've seen how James ducks and dives when it comes to defending that shrewish mob of cultists!
D'you think things are going to change?

(cue another irrelevent apocalyptic text....)
JamesJah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrB9V2LA2Pw
JamesJah

pow wow wrote:
Why won't you tell us how your Kingdom Hall leaders treat members that question or object to watchtower teachings. Why won't you tell us about your shunning. I've been in the home of a young JW couple that were being shunned by the congregation. My friend and her mom refused to shun them and made them welcome in their home but they made it clear to me they were disobeying the watchtower and their kingdom hall by not shunning them. Interesting that you are not comfortable posting openly about kingdom hall discipline.



What are the major faults with the Catholic church?

What have they been doing that is illegal?

Why have they been paying out millions of pounds compensation?

Hoe is it that does not apply to the WT organization?
Leonard James

JamesJah wrote:
Leonard James wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Any one who is indoctrinated and happy to be that way should not really come to discussion forums should they?


So now explain to us why you are here, since you seem quite happy with your indoctrination.


I have been indoctrinated by this this world the same as you, the big difference is I see it as indoctrination but you seem unable to see it.



No, James. I was indoctrinated when young with the religion of my family and culture, Christianity, but then I grew up and became aware of the scam, and extricated myself.

You are unable to do the same, and you have my sympathy.  
JamesJah

Leonard James wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Leonard James wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Any one who is indoctrinated and happy to be that way should not really come to discussion forums should they?


So now explain to us why you are here, since you seem quite happy with your indoctrination.


I have been indoctrinated by this this world the same as you, the big difference is I see it as indoctrination but you seem unable to see it.



No, James. I was indoctrinated when young with the religion of my family and culture, Christianity, but then I grew up and became aware of the scam, and extricated myself.

You are unable to do the same, and you have my sympathy.  


Wrong!

I told you once but you must have missed it.

I was brought up high church but I am no longer a part of that system that was created by the doctrines of Demons.

Then you obviously do not recognise such ones.

You are a human and humans do not have the ability to recognise where the inspired thoughts come from, they do not know the direction a thought comes from, so to be safe they adopt the popular accepted view.

The popular accepted view today is we evolved and can do as we please, therefore God and religion are figments of the imagination.

The Chinese know that the spirits exist and some are learning which to serve, but the English still find understanding the spirits anti social and confusing.

That does not mean we should ignore all the spirits, what it does mean we have to learn high to find the right one to guide us, independence is not an option it will just leave us in the land of confusion where is where you are at in this moment in time.

There is a key that can unlock the door to reasoned thinking that is able to discern why one road is correct, and the other disastrous.
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
pow wow wrote:
Why won't you tell us how your Kingdom Hall leaders treat members that question or object to watchtower teachings. Why won't you tell us about your shunning. I've been in the home of a young JW couple that were being shunned by the congregation. My friend and her mom refused to shun them and made them welcome in their home but they made it clear to me they were disobeying the watchtower and their kingdom hall by not shunning them. Interesting that you are not comfortable posting openly about kingdom hall discipline.



What are the major faults with the Catholic church?

What have they been doing that is illegal?

Why have they been paying out millions of pounds compensation?

Hoe is it that does not apply to the WT organization?

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It does. James...
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/20...witness-sex-abuse-judgment-lopez/
and if you wish, I can provide a further twenty odd links to similar acts by that sordid little cult.
and
https://www.watchtowerlies.com/pe...ngst_the_jehovah_s_witnesses.html
http://www.silentlambs.org/personal_experiences/index.cfm
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
pow wow wrote:
Why won't you tell us how your Kingdom Hall leaders treat members that question or object to watchtower teachings. Why won't you tell us about your shunning. I've been in the home of a young JW couple that were being shunned by the congregation. My friend and her mom refused to shun them and made them welcome in their home but they made it clear to me they were disobeying the watchtower and their kingdom hall by not shunning them. Interesting that you are not comfortable posting openly about kingdom hall discipline.



What are the major faults with the Catholic church?

What have they been doing that is illegal?

Why have they been paying out millions of pounds compensation?

Hoe is it that does not apply to the WT organization?

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It does. James...
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/20...witness-sex-abuse-judgment-lopez/
and if you wish, I can provide a further twenty odd links to similar acts by that sordid little cult.


Does that mean you are the way the truth and the life?

Do you now know the answers to the Almighty Gods purpose, should we now go your enlightened way?

Do you have a unique answer to the problems of this world that Jesus gas not offered me in scripture?

Hardly you allow your emotions fuelled by deceitful teachers to persuade you so that you can feel secure in you corrupted teachings which have been inspired by the demons.

If you do not take your own translation of the bible seriously how is it possible for you to ever know what is the almighty God's will, at alone give sound advice to others?

2 Peter 3:2-4
commandment of the Lord and Saviour through your apostles. First of all know this, that in the last days

ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying:

Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are
Jim

Another classic move by James to ignore the overwhelming evidence of the JW cult's manifold lies, deceptions, crimes and disgusting cover ups.

Flinging scripture about won't cover up the sewage, James.
Nor will brushing it under the carpet, accusing another religious body, and flinging yet another apocalyptic scripture into the mix in a vain attempt to disguise the fact of this wortheless, duplicitous slave's treatment of the God-given talents it claims to have.
Here's yet another professional critique of the vile practice of 'shunning'
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/a...er-ramps-up-its-shunning-campaign
There is nothing of Christ in this.
And here's some material from people who have left this tawdry religion:
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovahs-witness-experiences.php
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
Another classic move by James to ignore the overwhelming evidence of the JW cult's manifold lies, deceptions, crimes and disgusting cover ups.

Flinging scripture about won't cover up the sewage, James.
Nor will brushing it under the carpet, accusing another religious body, and flinging yet another apocalyptic scripture into the mix in a vain attempt to disguise the fact of this wortheless, duplicitous slave's treatment of the God-given talents it claims to have.
Here's yet another professional critique of the vile practice of 'shunning'
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/a...er-ramps-up-its-shunning-campaign
There is nothing of Christ in this.


If it is not in scripture then the person who teaches it is a falls prophet, each JW is obliged to uphold the word of Jehovah's, he serves Jehovah not any of the apostate religions that profess to know God but are liars.

Who today is doing the will of Almighty God?

Who knows what that will is?

By the way they do not crucify in Australia they just stick dynamite under people they dislike, then say we are cruel, get your facts adjusted.
Jim

You must have been posting while I edited my last post by adding
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovahs-witness-experiences.php
James.
I understand - it took me a while to read through...and wipe the tears away.
There is nothing of Christ in a disgraceful cult which remotely accepts any of this vileness.
JamesJah

Which religion is about to be shut down because of Paedophilia?
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
You must have been posting while I edited my last post by adding
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovahs-witness-experiences.php
James.
I understand - it took me a while to read through...and wipe the tears away.
There is nothing of Christ in a disgraceful cult which remotely accepts any of this vileness.


Which is it shun or not shun Paedophilia persons????

(1 Corinthians 5:11-13
But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.

For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked person from among yourselves.
Jim

[quote="JamesJah:122942"]Which religion is about to be shut down because of Paedophilia?

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I've heard of speed reading, James - but there is absolutely  no way you can have read all of
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovahs-witness-experiences.php
and followed the links contained therein in so short of a time.
You either
A) couldn't care less about those rejected, damaged, crushed or ill treated by your cult;
B) couldn't be bothered extending the courtesy of reading the links,
or
C) are in denial regarding the lies, crimes, vile practices and antichristian behaviour of the cult


Which?
JamesJah

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
You must have been posting while I edited my last post by adding
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovahs-witness-experiences.php
James.
I understand - it took me a while to read through...and wipe the tears away.
There is nothing of Christ in a disgraceful cult which remotely accepts any of this vileness.


Which is it shun or not shun Paedophilia persons????

(1 Corinthians 5:11-13
But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.

For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked person from among yourselves.


You are too quick to accuse go back one and see if this is not it???
JamesJah

According to some Obama is giving the American people brain pollution big time, is that correct, is he handing America over to the Chinese?

What I saw on the news seems to say they are correct?
The Boyg

JamesJah wrote:
According to some Obama is giving the American people brain pollution big time, is that correct, is he handing America over to the Chinese?

What I saw on the news seems to say they are correct?


What did you see on the news that indicated that President Obama is handing America over to the Chinese?
JamesJah

The Boyg wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
According to some Obama is giving the American people brain pollution big time, is that correct, is he handing America over to the Chinese?

What I saw on the news seems to say they are correct?


What did you see on the news that indicated that President Obama is handing America over to the Chinese?


One thing I heard that convinced me was his plans for marshal law, that convinced me more than what, was when he spoke about that it was now the Chinese turn to be a world power, and the sale of a large chunk of American coast line to the Chinese.
The Boyg

JamesJah wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
According to some Obama is giving the American people brain pollution big time, is that correct, is he handing America over to the Chinese?

What I saw on the news seems to say they are correct?


What did you see on the news that indicated that President Obama is handing America over to the Chinese?


One thing I heard that convinced me was his plans for marshal law, that convinced me more than what, was when he spoke about that it was now the Chinese turn to be a world power, and the sale of a large chunk of American coast line to the Chinese.


What plan for marshal law?

How does that relate to handing America over to the Chinese?

How is recognising that China is becoming a world power again handing America over to the Chinese?

What sale of a large chunk of the American coastline to the Chinese? How large? Was President Obama involved in this sale or was it a private transaction?


Some links to substantiate your comments would be helpful.

(I won't hold my breath though).
JamesJah

The Boyg wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
According to some Obama is giving the American people brain pollution big time, is that correct, is he handing America over to the Chinese?

What I saw on the news seems to say they are correct?


What did you see on the news that indicated that President Obama is handing America over to the Chinese?


One thing I heard that convinced me was his plans for marshal law, that convinced me more than what, was when he spoke about that it was now the Chinese turn to be a world power, and the sale of a large chunk of American coast line to the Chinese.


What plan for marshal law?

How does that relate to handing America over to the Chinese?

How is recognising that China is becoming a world power again handing America over to the Chinese?

What sale of a large chunk of the American coastline to the Chinese? How large? Was President Obama involved in this sale or was it a private transaction?


Some links to substantiate your comments would be helpful.

(I won't hold my breath though).


This should get you to where most of the news items are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNXSLl0UkO0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhsGtla8OKA


Can intelligent design be a theory?

Have intelligent people who design been banned in????
The Boyg

JamesJah wrote:
This should get you to where most of the news items are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNXSLl0UkO0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhsGtla8OKA


Can't you cite some reputable news providers rather than New World Order conspiracy theory nutjobs?
ELEVENSES81

Boyg,

  you are a glutton for punishment. I suppose if you weren't keeping James occupied he might get himself into trouble on the street. Rather you than me though.
JamesJah

ELEVENSES81 wrote:
Boyg,

  you are a glutton for punishment. I suppose if you weren't keeping James occupied he might get himself into trouble on the street. Rather you than me though.


He has made the same mistake you are making.

The New world order they are proposing is the one set up with the anti Christ in charge, the one that is supposed to fool the hole world even some of the elect according to bible prophecy.


Matthew 24:23-27
Then if anyone says to YOU, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it.

 For false Christ's and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.


 Look! I have forewarned you. Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner chambers,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
JamesJah

The Boyg wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
This should get you to where most of the news items are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNXSLl0UkO0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhsGtla8OKA


Can't you cite some reputable news providers rather than New World Order conspiracy theory nutjobs?


Is the answer to idiot behaviour, greater and more idiot behaviour?
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
ELEVENSES81 wrote:
Boyg,

  you are a glutton for punishment. I suppose if you weren't keeping James occupied he might get himself into trouble on the street. Rather you than me though.


He has made the same mistake you are making.

The New world order they are proposing is the one set up with the anti Christ in charge, the one that is supposed to fool the hole world even some of the elect according to bible prophecy.


Matthew 24:23-27
Then if anyone says to YOU, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it.

 For false Christ's and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.


 Look! I have forewarned you. Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner chambers,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
 


-------PLEASE NOTE------
This post should be taken in the light of the five failed dates prophesied by the WTNTS for the return of Christ.
The Boyg

JamesJah wrote:
Is the answer to idiot behaviour, greater and more idiot behaviour?


No. That's why I ask you substantiate your assertions instead of replying with unsubstantiated assertions of my own.  
JamesJah

The Boyg wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Is the answer to idiot behaviour, greater and more idiot behaviour?


No. That's why I ask you substantiate your assertions instead of replying with unsubstantiated assertions of my own.  


Jim seems to think every one that serves the Almighty is to blame for every thing some ancient speculator had to say, is it his excuse for having his religion based on what the Popes taught?

The Popes are just as afraid of bible translations as most of the nominal Christians are,

What is wrong with learning the bible teachings just as one would learn to read and write?

Is the problem mainly that people are not allowed to think for themselves any more and be responsible for his own destiny?

According to what I have read the creator holds each one responsible for himself regardless of what mad teaching that person has been indoctrinated with.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore, do not judge anything before the due time, until the Lord comes. He will bring the secret things of darkness to light and make known the intentions of the hearts, and then each one will receive his praise from God.
JamesJah

For those who think they know what they are talking about here is an example of brain pollution big time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WflFuLEsF-M
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Is the answer to idiot behaviour, greater and more idiot behaviour?


No. That's why I ask you substantiate your assertions instead of replying with unsubstantiated assertions of my own.  


Jim seems to think every one that serves the Almighty is to blame for every thing some ancient speculator had to say, is it his excuse for having his religion based on what the Popes taught?

-
Eh?
The question was from the Boyg, but...why are you equating the teachings of Presbyterian Evangelicals with those of the Roman Catholic Church?
I'd suggest BOTH would take issue with you.
-
The Popes are just as afraid of bible translations as most of the nominal Christians are,
-
Evidence, citations, rather than opinion, please.
-

What is wrong with learning the bible teachings just as one would learn to read and write?
-
Nothing.
I did, thanks.
(Without the skewed tripe from the Watchtower, though.)
-

Is the problem mainly that people are not allowed to think for themselves any more and be responsible for his own destiny?
-
Well, given the Watchtower's PROVEN record of evasion, lies and flip flops, would any sane person trust them as far as they could throw them?
-
According to what I have read the creator holds each one responsible for himself regardless of what mad teaching that person has been indoctrinated with.
-
Unless they follow that 'mad teaching' blindly....cue Brooklyn.
JamesJah

JamesJah wrote:
For those who think they know what they are talking about here is an example of brain pollution big time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WflFuLEsF-M


Here is another one which does really say humans can not be trusted to teach any thing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL03728D7DF4BBDC66&v=8GD8wH2y4f0
Sebastian Toe

JamesJah wrote:


Here is another one which does really say humans can not be trusted to teach any thing.




Great, does that mean that nobody should take any notice of your pathetic attempts to teach anyone anything about anything, especially end-times, prophesies, world order, moon landings, dung heaps, sunspots, global warming,planetary alignments and thinking, especially thinking for yourself?
(unless you are not actually human of course)
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
For those who think they know what they are talking about here is an example of brain pollution big time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WflFuLEsF-M


Here is another one which does really say humans can not be trusted to teach any thing.

-
Oh, I agree.....
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/changed-watchtower-teachings.php
And...
Would you trust a group whose official doctrine - as given them by the sewer of a governing body - is to lie for their faith?
http://users.adam.com.au/bstett/JwEncouragesLies23.htm

No?
Nor I.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL03728D7DF4BBDC66&v=8GD8wH2y4f0
JamesJah

Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:


Here is another one which does really say humans can not be trusted to teach any thing.




Great, does that mean that nobody should take any notice of your pathetic attempts to teach anyone anything about anything, especially end-times, prophesies, world order, moon landings, dung heaps, sunspots, global warming,planetary alignments and thinking, especially thinking for yourself?
(unless you are not actually human of course)


What can a man say that can be taken at its face value?

At least two witnesses are needed to have any credit do they not?

Hate filled people are not going to say anything beneficial, just as the foolish are not, that is why the world is in such a state of confusion.

So where can reliable information be found that we can feed the mined on that will remove the confusion and straiten out the false teachings of unintelligent man?

Here is a good way of going about getting to the bottom of a matter>>\/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttPuVH4jXc          


Here is another way>>>\/

John 17:3
Shaker

Word salad.
JamesJah

Shaker wrote:
Word salad.


Salad wholesome food for the body, so should be just as good for the mind should it not?

Do you listen to music or is it too noisy where you live?

Is it possible in this world to eat always only wholesome food?
Jim

Wholesome food?
From a sect which, by its' own criteria, is a false prophet?


As usual, I don't expect you to answer this.
I expect you to do an impression of an ostrich, stick your head in the sand, hope the history of lies, deceit, evasion and flip flops in the Brooklyn story will vanish like the memorries of Watchtower readers -
- then post another text instead of addressing the issue.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
Wholesome food?
From a sect which, by its' own criteria, is a false prophet?


As usual, I don't expect you to answer this.
I expect you to do an impression of an ostrich, stick your head in the sand, hope the history of lies, deceit, evasion and flip flops in the Brooklyn story will vanish like the memorries of Watchtower readers -
- then post another text instead of addressing the issue.


Let me guess you do not know the sacred secret of the judgement?
Jim

Evasion noted.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
Evasion noted.


Who is evading what?
JamesJah

Does this have any meaning to the anti God brigade?


Matthew 7:12-14
All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean. 1

Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it;

whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
Evasion noted.


Who is evading what?


You.
Evading answering any point regarding the proven lies, evasions and instructions to its so-called witnessess to lie for their faith...marks of the true false prophet we are told to have nothing to do with.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
Evasion noted.


Who is evading what?


You.
Evading answering any point regarding the proven lies, evasions and instructions to its so-called witnessess to lie for their faith...marks of the true false prophet we are told to have nothing to do with.


Are you trying to convince us that you speak the truth?. Are you telling us the solution to this worlds problems? Do you know what the Almighty had fas a solution?

Or are you just trying to stop others from finding out, so you do not get exposed for your lack of knowledge and understanding, of these disastrous event which have appears on earth?
Jim

No...
I'm simply showing that the WTBTS are false prophets.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Fa.../Jehovah%20Witnesses/jw_false.htm

I cannot judge.
I will not condemn.
I simply present evidence which, so far, you have been totally unable to refute.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
No...
I'm simply showing that the WTBTS are false prophets.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Fa.../Jehovah%20Witnesses/jw_false.htm

I cannot judge.
I will not condemn.
I simply present evidence which, so far, you have been totally unable to refute.


It is quite difficult to explain to some that are anti God regardless of what one teaches to explain that  there is an obligation on the servants of the creator to preach the Good news about the establishment of his kingdom under the authority of his son. All; that does not make JW's falls witnesses it makes them doers of the word something the average Christian fights shy of, does he not?

What prophecy have you heard from a JW that is falls?
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
No...
I'm simply showing that the WTBTS are false prophets.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Fa.../Jehovah%20Witnesses/jw_false.htm

I cannot judge.
I will not condemn.
I simply present evidence which, so far, you have been totally unable to refute.


It is quite difficult to explain to some that are anti God regardless of what one teaches to explain that  there is an obligation on the servants of the creator to preach the Good news about the establishment of his kingdom under the authority of his son. All; that does not make JW's falls witnesses it makes them doers of the word something the average Christian fights shy of, does he not?

What prophecy have you heard from a JW that is falls?


-
Eh?
1874
1878
1914
1918
1925
1970....
Beth Sarim...and that's only for starters.....
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
No...
I'm simply showing that the WTBTS are false prophets.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Fa.../Jehovah%20Witnesses/jw_false.htm

I cannot judge.
I will not condemn.
I simply present evidence which, so far, you have been totally unable to refute.


It is quite difficult to explain to some that are anti God regardless of what one teaches to explain that  there is an obligation on the servants of the creator to preach the Good news about the establishment of his kingdom under the authority of his son. All; that does not make JW's falls witnesses it makes them doers of the word something the average Christian fights shy of, does he not?

What prophecy have you heard from a JW that is falls?


-
Eh?
1874
1878
1914
1918
1925
1970....
Beth Sarim...and that's only for starters.....


They just happened to be armature bible students.

They were not JW's now were they?


I am a JW and I have never given out a false prophecy so what is your problem?

Jesus was a JW so he comes under your friends criticism.
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
No...
I'm simply showing that the WTBTS are false prophets.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Fa.../Jehovah%20Witnesses/jw_false.htm

I cannot judge.
I will not condemn.
I simply present evidence which, so far, you have been totally unable to refute.


It is quite difficult to explain to some that are anti God regardless of what one teaches to explain that  there is an obligation on the servants of the creator to preach the Good news about the establishment of his kingdom under the authority of his son. All; that does not make JW's falls witnesses it makes them doers of the word something the average Christian fights shy of, does he not?

What prophecy have you heard from a JW that is falls?


-
Eh?
1874
1878
1914
1918
1925
1970....
Beth Sarim...and that's only for starters.....


They just happened to be armature bible students.

They were not JW's now were they?
=
They were the governing riff raff of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
That makes them guilty of being part of the cult known as Jehovah's Witnessess.
-


I am a JW and I have never given out a false prophecy so what is your problem?
=
1914 and the tripe about the invisible Jesus?
-


Jesus was a JW so he comes under your friends criticism.

-
Not going there, James.
Look at my signature.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
No...
I'm simply showing that the WTBTS are false prophets.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Fa.../Jehovah%20Witnesses/jw_false.htm

I cannot judge.
I will not condemn.
I simply present evidence which, so far, you have been totally unable to refute.


It is quite difficult to explain to some that are anti God regardless of what one teaches to explain that  there is an obligation on the servants of the creator to preach the Good news about the establishment of his kingdom under the authority of his son. All; that does not make JW's falls witnesses it makes them doers of the word something the average Christian fights shy of, does he not?

What prophecy have you heard from a JW that is falls?


-
Eh?
1874
1878
1914
1918
1925
1970....
Beth Sarim...and that's only for starters.....


They just happened to be armature bible students.

They were not JW's now were they?
=
They were the governing riff raff of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
That makes them guilty of being part of the cult known as Jehovah's Witnessess.
-


I am a JW and I have never given out a false prophecy so what is your problem?
=
1914 and the tripe about the invisible Jesus?
-


Jesus was a JW so he comes under your friends criticism.

-
Not going there, James.
Look at my signature.


I keep seeing it shame really some people learn nothing more once they leave school and some realise that was just the beginning of what they had to learn.

1 Corinthians 8:1-3
we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up,

but love builds up. 

If anyone thinks he knows something, he does not yet know it as he should know it.

But if anyone loves God, this one is known by him.
Jim

I keep seeing it shame really some people learn nothing more once they leave school and some realise that was just the beginning of what they had to learn.
-
Really?
So tertiary education - condemned by the Russellites because, those who experience it, see through the falsehoods and lies the Watchtower peddle, leave the cult and, quite rightly, condemn it?
-

1 Corinthians 8:1-3
we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up,

but love builds up. 

If anyone thinks he knows something, he does not yet know it as he should know it.

But if anyone loves God, this one is known by him.[/quote]
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
I keep seeing it shame really some people learn nothing more once they leave school and some realise that was just the beginning of what they had to learn.
-
Really?
So tertiary education - condemned by the Russellites because, those who experience it, see through the falsehoods and lies the Watchtower peddle, leave the cult and, quite rightly, condemn it?
-

1 Corinthians 8:1-3
we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up,

but love builds up. 

If anyone thinks he knows something, he does not yet know it as he should know it.

But if anyone loves God, this one is known by him.
[/quote]

Russell is  dead and so are those that worked with him as bible student.

Ranting on about Russell will not make what you say correct as you no longer know who provides material for the publication called the public Watchtower.

Things that the man Russell found that made the scriptures difficult to understand correctly was the badly translated King James bible, and the outright forgeries in it.

The ignorant clergy were quite rude when he showed them and did not wish to know now why was that?
Jim

1. The WTBTS regard Russell as 'used by God', and prophetic.
Others see him as a huckster, fraud, criminal liar and pyramidiot.
2. Why are you on about the KJV?
I don't use it.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
1. The WTBTS regard Russell as 'used by God', and prophetic.
Others see him as a huckster, fraud, criminal liar and pyramidiot.
2. Why are you on about the KJV?
I don't use it.


The WT does not think, it is the name of a magazine that publishes the information relevant to understanding the bible in our times, some of that information has to be updated as the revelations of the prophetic word in scripture is understood, those who shed new light on the prophetic word do get published so who are they?
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
1. The WTBTS regard Russell as 'used by God', and prophetic.
Others see him as a huckster, fraud, criminal liar and pyramidiot.
2. Why are you on about the KJV?
I don't use it.


The WT does not think, it is the name of a magazine that publishes the information relevant to understanding the bible in our times, some of that information has to be updated as the revelations of the prophetic word in scripture is understood, those who shed new light on the prophetic word do get published so who are they?
 
The WT rag, james, has been proven - using the trash it itself publishes - to be about as useful as a chocolate fireguard...and lies abound in equal proportion to false prophesies, flip flops and attempts at deceit.

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