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Shaker

C of E: downward slide continues

The Church of England has just released its attendance figures for 2011 and to nobody's surprise they show a continued downturn in numbers of those attending church. (Interestingly, my home county of Leicestershire is, along with a handful of other counties, one of the least churchgoing shires in England). The BHA again argue, quite rightly, that this state of affairs means that sooner or later something is going to have to give and that the presence of bishops in the House of Lords, faith schools and the establishment of the church as the state religion (and the monarch's role as the head of same) are going to have to be revised.

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Attendance figures continued to show general long-term decline and low figures of attendance of all sorts. For example:

† †98% of people didnít go to a Church of England service on an average week
† †95% didnít go to Church at Christmas
† †88% of babies werenít baptised
† †66% of funerals werenít Church of England
cyberman

Re: C of E: downward slide continues

Shaker wrote:
the presence of ...faith schools ...[is] going to have to be revised.


Do you think state schools ought to be taken back out of the state sector again? If that happens, how will the state sector create all the school places it will suddenly be short of?
cymrudynnion

Re: C of E: downward slide continues

Shaker wrote:
The Church of England has just released its attendance figures for 2011 and to nobody's surprise they show a continued downturn in numbers of those attending church. (Interestingly, my home county of Leicestershire is, along with a handful of other counties, one of the least churchgoing shires in England). The BHA again argue, quite rightly, that this state of affairs means that sooner or later something is going to have to give and that the presence of bishops in the House of Lords, faith schools and the establishment of the church as the state religion (and the monarch's role as the head of same) are going to have to be revised.

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Attendance figures continued to show general long-term decline and low figures of attendance of all sorts. For example:

† †98% of people didnít go to a Church of England service on an average week
† †95% didnít go to Church at Christmas
† †88% of babies werenít baptised
† †66% of funerals werenít Church of England
Have a chat with the new Arch of Canterbury he won't agree with you and is on Record with the figures for last year
Shaker

Re: C of E: downward slide continues

cymrudynnion wrote:
Have a chat with the new Arch of Canterbury he won't agree with you and is on Record with the figures for last year

(a) It's no surprise that the leader of a failing organisation with dwindling influence is going to try to put the best possible gloss on a dismal state of affairs even in defiance of the evidence, is it?

(b) The 2012 figures are not out yet. It takes months to collate all the data.
Powwow

When you spend years undermining, twisting and rejecting more and more scripture in an attempt to be more inclusive, you are bound to die off. The churches that grow are the ones that still preach about the wages of sin, the ones that still preach salvation through Christ's blood. The ones that hold firm no matter how much the secular world howls against them.
The Anglican church is fading over here as well. And they deserve that for compromising to "get with the times".
Boss Cat

Shaker posted:

(a) It's no surprise that the leader of a failing organisation with dwindling influence is going to try to put the best possible gloss on a dismal state of affairs even in defiance of the evidence, is it?

As I said on another thread...always question where the evidence is coming from and the agenda of the person interpreting it.

But...now I don't care if me and my chickens are the only Anglicans in Britain, but the BBC did - on its news - report this as an arrest in the decline.  Might be a bottoming out, might be a move towards me and my chickens being the only Anglicans, can't say on one year's figures in isolation.  But the Archbishop's interpretation gains some credibility from the BBC.  Are you sure your presentation doesn't have some kind of bias in the interpretation Shaker?

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