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JamesJah

Can the spirit be a god

Why do so many say that when there is not a scripture which does say that?

What are the seven spirits of the Almighty God?

Revelation 3:1
These are the things that he says who has the seven spirits of God and the seven stars, ‘I know your deeds, that you have the name that you are alive, but you are dead.

Revelation 4:5
Out of the throne there are proceeding lightning’s and voices and thunders; and [there are] seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, and these mean the seven spirits of God.
Jim

Re: Can the spirit be a god

A God?
No.
But He IS God.
AS the Son is God.
As the father is God.
Now close the thread.
There are plenty of other threads destroying unitarianism.
LeClerc

Hi James

According to your own preferred translation of scripture, is YHWH The Spirit ?

2 Corinthians 3 NWT
17Now Jehovah is the Spirit; and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom.18And all of us, while we with unveiled faces reflect like mirrors the glory of Jehovah, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, exactly as done by Jehovah [the] Spirit.

You have your answer James, from your religious organisations own translators, thread close.

LeClerc
JamesJah

Why does it say he is seven spirits?
LeClerc

Hi James

JamesJah wrote:
Why does it say he is seven spirits?


Does it James ?

Revelation 1
4 Yochanan, to the seven assemblies that are in Asia: Grace to you and shalom, from God, who is and who was and who is to come; and from the seven Spirits who are before his throne;

According to your own preferred translation of scripture, is YHWH The Spirit ?

2 Corinthians 3 NWT
17Now Jehovah is the Spirit; and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom.18And all of us, while we with unveiled faces reflect like mirrors the glory of Jehovah, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, exactly as done by Jehovah [the] Spirit.

You have your answer James, from your religious organisations own translators, thread closed.

LeClerc
JamesJah

What is it that we worship God with is that a god also?

John 4:23, 24
Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.

What is a spirit body?

1 Corinthians 15:44, 45
It is sown a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. It is even so written: “The first man Adam became a living soul.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
LeClerc

Hi James

JamesJah wrote:
What is it that we worship God with is that a god also?

John 4:23, 24
Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.


What is the Greek word translated into English as worship ?

LeClerc
JamesJah

Can you change times and seasons with your technicalities LerClerc?

Jesus is still our only access to the Almighty God his father, and in spite of what your terminology comes up with Jesus is the only one that was worthy of passing through the curtain with the redemption price which he gave to his Father, the Almighty God ruler of the universe.


1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
For even though there are those who are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many gods and many “lords, there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.
LeClerc

Hi James

JamesJah wrote:
Can you change times and seasons with your technicalities LerClerc?

Jesus is still our only access to the Almighty God his father, and in spite of what your terminology comes up with Jesus is the only one that was worthy of passing through the curtain with the redemption price which he gave to his Father, the Almighty God ruler of the universe.


1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
For even though there are those who are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many gods and many “lords, there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.


I believe you have posted here

JamesJah wrote:
Hallow LerClerc still with the gnats

The only one Theos yes



Turning to the Greek from 1 Corinthians 8 which you quote.

8:6  ἀλλ᾽ ἡμῖν εἷς θεὸς ὁ πατήρ ἐξ οὗ τὰ πάντα καὶ ἡμεῖς εἰς αὐτόν καὶ εἷς κύριος Ἰησοῦς Χριστός δι᾽ οὗ τὰ πάντα καὶ ἡμεῖς δι᾽ αὐτοῦ

So you now agree that Messiah Y'shua is as you have quoted ''The only one Theos yes''

LeClerc
JamesJah

The Alpha & Omega of Jehovah's creation yes.
LeClerc

Afternoon James

JamesJah wrote:
The Alpha & Omega of Jehovah's creation yes.


Not according to your teaching James.

LeClerc
JamesJah

Hallooooow again LerClerc

Could you show me which teaching of mine that is not according too?
LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Hallooooow again LerClerc

Could you show me which teaching of mine that is not according too?


According to your teaching the Logos was created and has not always existed.

Therefore The Logos, according to you, must have been formed from a susbtance which was also created.

Therefore according to your teaching, the substance out of which The Logos was formed, must have been, according to your teaching, YHWH's first act of creation.

LeClerc
JamesJah

How do you turn energy into clay LerClerc?


2 Timothy 4:2, 3
preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching.

 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled;
LeClerc

Hi James

JamesJah wrote:
How do you turn energy into clay LerClerc?


2 Timothy 4:2, 3
preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching.

 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled;


So now you are saying YHWH is not distinct from His creation but He is all of creation !!!!!!!

Keep digging James.

What you are now saying is when matter is converted back into energy that energy, according to what you are saying, is God Almighty.

Lets reiterate.

According to your teaching the Logos was created and has not always existed.

Therefore The Logos, according to you, must have been formed from a susbtance which was also created.

Therefore according to your teaching, the substance out of which The Logos was formed, must have been, according to your teaching, YHWH's first act of creation.

LeClerc
JamesJah

His first and last act of creation LerClerc
LeClerc

Hi James

JamesJah wrote:
His first and last act of creation LerClerc


Not according to your teaching.

The first act of creation, according to what you have posted previously, must be the substance out of which the Logos was formed but that is not what the scriptures teach, since the scriptures teach that the Logos came forth from YHWH.

LeClerc
JamesJah

Which scripture?
LeClerc

Hi James

JamesJah wrote:
Which scripture?


John 16
27 for the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me, and have believed that I came forth from God.

LeClerc
JamesJah

Jesus was the first and last of Jehovah’s creation this creation was called the word or logos because of what he became after his creation why that is a problem to some is because of traditional teachings invented by false teachers of the past.

Jesus is now King of his Fathers Kingdom do the promoters of controversies point to gods kingdom as the solution for mankind?

No they are still spreading the ancient teachings which have no value to those hearing them.

Revelation 19:11-14
I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness.
His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems.
He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, and

he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God.

OR LOGOS in GREEK
LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Jesus was the first and last of Jehovah’s creation this creation was called the word or logos because of what he became after his creation why that is a problem to some is because of traditional teachings invented by false teachers of the past.

Jesus is now King of his Fathers Kingdom do the promoters of controversies point to gods kingdom as the solution for mankind?

No they are still spreading the ancient teachings which have no value to those hearing them.

Revelation 19:11-14
I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness.
His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems.
He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, and

he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God.

OR LOGOS in GREEK


From what you have posted James you should have no problem answering the following question.

From what substance was the first of YHWH's creation formed ?

LeClerc

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