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Powwow

False Spirits in the Church

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpw2oQrvMM
bnabernard

Where do you reckon these false spirits come from?

bernard (hug)
Powwow

They were once God's angels so they all came from the same place. Now that they have rebelled against God, they roam the earth doing things such as what you see in that video.
To think some believe God would have us acting like drunken idiots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgByE0pX1M
Jim

Speaking as a charismatic, I'm not surprised.
Many of us saw this coming with the first wave of the "toronto blessing".
Charlatanism spread from it, and demonstrations of more extreme behaviour  which have nothing to do with either the gifts or the fruits of the Holy Spirit.
These gifts were, and are, given for the building of the church, and strengthening of the bond between the individual and God.
When they either replace the study of Scripture with pure, unadulterated emotionalism, or substitute faith for an "experience fix", then we know we are under attack.
The only defences are clearly set out in Ephesians 6: 10-21.
bnabernard

pow wow wrote:
They were once God's angels so they all came from the same place. Now that they have rebelled against God, they roam the earth doing things such as what you see in that video.
To think some believe God would have us acting like drunken idiots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgByE0pX1M


I get locked into this where did they come from and the understanding that they are spirits that rebelled against God, when did they rebell against God, before the flood, after the flood, on a daily basis?

bernard (hug)
Powwow

Before the flood. As far as new ones falling. Don't know, I'm not sure the bible says anything about that. Keep in mind Bna, fallen angels can still show up before God. Satan did so after he rebelled. That's when he challenged God about Job's faith.
bnabernard

pow wow wrote:
Before the flood. As far as new ones falling. Don't know, I'm not sure the bible says anything about that. Keep in mind Bna, fallen angels can still show up before God. Satan did so after he rebelled. That's when he challenged God about Job's faith.


Before the flood, we seem to agree on that, however I'm told that the fallen angels were locked in chains in darkness, it would seem to indicate that they would not have much freedom to put it about?

bernard (hug)
Powwow

Where exactly are you told this? Are you talking of all fallen angels or spirits or was it a case of some specific ones? Satan, a fallen angel, is not bound yet.
bnabernard

pow wow wrote:
Where exactly are you told this? Are you talking of all fallen angels or spirits or was it a case of some specific ones? Satan, a fallen angel, is not bound yet.



Whats the difference between a fallen angel and a spirit?

bernard (hug)

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