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Shaker

Formal debate section?

I've been toying with the idea of introducing a feature to nglreturns which I've seen (and seen work very successfully indeed, at its best) on other sites, namely, a formal debate section where two and only two members on opposite sides of a particular issue agree to debate said issue back and forth. The debate would be for those two members only, without input from anyone else - for others to be able to comment on the ongoing debate a new but separate thread can be created. Some sites impose a limit on the length of each reply (say, a maximum of 1500 words at a time), others don't, but the idea is that two members agree to debate a particular issue fairly strictly. Only those two members contribute and they take it in turns replying and rebutting the previous post until both parties agree by mutual consent that the debate has ended.

Any thoughts, troops? Does anybody like the sound of it and if so, does anybody have any ideas as to what they'd like to see debated?
Farmer Geddon

I have also come across such discussion boards where they have a formal debating section and they usually make for some interesting reading.

It might work here - I guess it all depends on who the combatants are and how well they know the subjects.

I take it the debates would follow the tradition course of an opening statement, followed by 1st and 2nd rebuttals, then end with a final conclusion?

(Although instead of having a separate thread you could wait until the debate is over and then allow others to contribute to the debate on the same thread..  if that makes sense)!!
Leonard James

Yes. It would certainly be interesting and refreshing to read a serious debate between two well-informed and articulate participants.
LornaDoone40

Having participated in something similar (quite some time ago) it can work very well indeed.  

The way that they did it on the board I was on was for each person to post an article (it had to be written by that person) and then those articles were used as a platform from which to start the debate.  

It certainly got the ol' grey matter chugging away!!  
Leonard James

Judders Lady... wrote:
Leonard James wrote:
Yes. It would certainly be interesting and refreshing to read a serious debate between two well-informed and articulate participants.


Morning Leonard,

Without the knowledge (educated in the subject) being articulate would be pointless because they would be well-spoken about nothing.


Which is precisely why I said well-informed and articulate. Trying to understand badly written posts is frustrating and boring.

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I believe the most important part of any debate is that the informed/educated person are able to contribute his/her knowledge.

Not sure that being educated or informed will make them right!


It is much more likely they will be than if they were uneducated or uninformed.

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Religion and the whole kit and caboodle tends to decide that before any debate takes place.  Faith... is not set in stone.  What
will be interesting to see, is how it all pans out.


Yes, we shall have to wait and see.

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Hope your weather is good today.

It's sunny but cold.  
Farmer Geddon

Funny - I always thought a debate, especially on internet forums, comprises of one side offering a formal presentation of a stated proposition and another side arguing in opposition to the claim, where the participants have a chance to present and defend their arguments in the hope of persuading others to the validity of their views...
LornaDoone40

Well yes - unless you think that 'debate' actually means a chance to tell everyone why you are right and they are wrong...

My Granddad is a bit like that - I remember so well how one day he said (and with a perfectly straight face...)

"I'm not dogmatic! I'm only dogmatic when I know I'm right!"  
Farmer Geddon

I wonder if the naysayers to the idea will let themselves be known.....
Farmer Geddon

Anyway Shaker...

Why don't you just add the section anyway and wait and see what happens...

You'll never know until you try!!!
Leonard James

The Canard's back wrote:

You'll never know until you try!!!

I wonder why that phrase rings a loud bell for me?  
Farmer Geddon



My mind is in the gutter now Len....  which some would say is an improvement!!
Farmer Geddon

Ohhhhhh...


Can you see what I see?
LornaDoone40

So now that we have a formal debate bit, perhaps we should be suggesting stuff to debate - and volunteering someone to do it?
Farmer Geddon

Don't look at me.....

I have the debating skills of a storm-trooper!!
LornaDoone40

The Canard's back wrote:
Don't look at me.....

I have the debating skills of a storm-trooper!!


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Farmer Geddon

Do you have access to my web-cam Lorna?
Farmer Geddon

This is more like it:


Ketty

Leonard James wrote:
Which is precisely why I said well-informed and articulate. Trying to understand badly written posts is frustrating and boring.


I couldn't agree more.

I see I'm late adding my 'yes', 'cos it's up and running already.  
Shaker

Not quite Ket - it's up, not so much "running" as yet  
Rosebud

Re: Formal debate section?

Shaker wrote:
I've been toying with the idea of introducing a feature to nglreturns which I've seen (and seen work very successfully indeed, at its best) on other sites, namely, a formal debate section where two and only two members on opposite sides of a particular issue agree to debate said issue back and forth. The debate would be for those two members only, without input from anyone else - for others to be able to comment on the ongoing debate a new but separate thread can be created. Some sites impose a limit on the length of each reply (say, a maximum of 1500 words at a time), others don't, but the idea is that two members agree to debate a particular issue fairly strictly. Only those two members contribute and they take it in turns replying and rebutting the previous post until both parties agree by mutual consent that the debate has ended.

Any thoughts, troops? Does anybody like the sound of it and if so, does anybody have any ideas as to what they'd like to see debated?


Hi Shaker,

I like the idea, but it seems to have had difficulties getting off the ground.

What I would suggest is that a strong topic is selected for discussion ( like abortion, for and against) and a limited number of posters are selected with strong views on either side.

Say two or three on each side.

The topics could be selected by suggestions and could be strong topics that people feel strongly about.

abortion, animals used in the creation of medicine, hunting, really strong topics that clearly can have two sides.

This might encourage people to keep the threads flowing.

If you advertised the subject beforehand people may let you know if they want to be among the debaters.

Julie

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