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IvyOwl

I wonder what he'd think of it all?

The real Jesus that is. You know the one that gave rise to the stories in the New Testament. (If indeed it was just the one man ... it may have been an amalgamation of several).

I don't mean the one that resides in the collective imagination of so many Christians. (Well make that several as from what I can gather having known so many Christians in my time they have each their own unique version) But ok, apart from the precise details, there is one that exists by common concensus as God's son (or a facet of the godhead).

Anyway this real Jesus  the one behind the myths what was he like?

Was he an egocentric delusional who might be really tickled pink by what's happened in the 2000 years since his passing?

Or was he really a kindly, perhaps even self effacing, soul who would be either sad or bemused?

Or would he be absolutley furious that whatever it was he was trying to say had been so hopelessly mangled?

IO
Leonard James

Neither we nor he will ever know, Ivy, but I suspect he would be flattered to think so many stories were woven round his life and death!
Lexilogio

I think he would be very disappointed at the way the church had split into multiple factions - amused at some of the things we found important - and would chide us for putting that ahead of the real message, that of caring for each other.

I suspect he would point out those genuinely doing his work, those churches providing for the homeless, or supporting other genuine charitable works. I think he'd be enormously disappointed in those which put self preservation over service to the community.

I think he'd also take a very dim view of those who promoted intolerance, who worked to keep people out.
Leonard James

Lexilogio wrote:
I think he would be very disappointed at the way the church had split into multiple factions - amused at some of the things we found important - and would chide us for putting that ahead of the real message, that of caring for each other.

I suspect he would point out those genuinely doing his work, those churches providing for the homeless, or supporting other genuine charitable works. I think he'd be enormously disappointed in those which put self preservation over service to the community.

I think he'd also take a very dim view of those who promoted intolerance, who worked to keep people out.


I agree with all your points, Lexi.

Jesus and many other people have dreamed of a world of perfect harmony among humans. Sadly, such a thing is unattainable because we are the product of evolution, and cannot eradicate inherited antisocial tendencies.

We can only do our best to control those that would harm others by putting their own wishes first.
Boss Cat

He strikes me as pretty shrewd and I think he would be most pleased that people try their best.
Lexilogio

Boss Cat wrote:
He strikes me as pretty shrewd and I think he would be most pleased that people try their best.


I'd agree there. There are a number who try hard, who Jesus would be pleased with. I suspect there would be a few church leaders who would get short shrift.

I would suggest that he would not recognise the likes of Harold Camping, and see them as manipulators of the vulnerable.  

I remember when Occupy London was going on, and remembering Jesus overturning the tables in the temple grounds. If Jesus was here now, I think he would have been amongst the Occupy protesters, asking why a church sought to ignore the cries of the populace.

I think it's a question all churches should challenge themselves with - have we become the Pharisees?
Shrub Dweller

The man or men behind the Jesus myth were products of their time and probably didn't give a thought to how many generations on they would be seen or interpreted, just as many others haven't in our recent history. Basically things don't really change much. I sometimes wonder about the men getting rich during the industrial revolution making kids work a 12 hour day and then going off to church. And this type of sick attitude still goes on in the USA with the rich 1% elite.

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