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JamesJah

Imitating Christ

Are people who claim to be Christian supposed to imitate Jesus?

Matthew 7:21-23
Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.

Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’

Then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!.





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Jim

Re: Imitating Christ

JamesJah wrote:
Are people who claim to be Christian supposed to imitate Jesus?

Matthew 7:21-23
Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.

Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’

Then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!.





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Yep. When are the WTBTS going to start?
JamesJah

Re: Imitating Christ

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Are people who claim to be Christian supposed to imitate Jesus?

Matthew 7:21-23
Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.

Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’

Then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!.





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Yep. When are the WTBTS going to start?


Perhaps you can tell us what they should start with??
Ketty

Re: Imitating Christ

JamesJah wrote:
Are people who claim to be Christian supposed to imitate Jesus?


Supposed to 'imitate' Jesus?     I guess I could do a good job of trying to grow a beard (if the depictions of him are to be believed).  

'Claim' to be Christian?  Lots of people claim to be lots of things.  Some even claim to be Black from 'pure' African parents when they're in reality white men from mongrel white parents.

Christians believe that Christ Jesus is exactly who He says He is, ie, God incarnate.  Christians are the disciples of Christ.  Christians endeavour to follow the two greatest Commandments, and from those all else follows.
Jim

Re: Imitating Christ

Ketty wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Are people who claim to be Christian supposed to imitate Jesus?


Supposed to 'imitate' Jesus?     I guess I could do a good job of trying to grow a beard (if the depictions of him are to be believed).  

'Claim' to be Christian?  Lots of people claim to be lots of things.  Some even claim to be Black from 'pure' African parents when they're in reality white men from mongrel white parents.

Christians believe that Christ Jesus is exactly who He says He is, ie, God incarnate.  Christians are the disciples of Christ.  Christians endeavour to follow the two greatest Commandments, and from those all else follows.

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Yes. To imitate Christ, first, you have to know Him.
And to know Him, first, you have to surrender all you are to Him,
And to surrender to Him, first, you have to know Him for who He is.
Farmer Geddon

Nice to see both of you in your blind bigotry fail to address the actual point JJ is trying to make.
Jim

Farmer Geddon wrote:
Nice to see both of you in your blind bigotry fail to address the actual point JJ is trying to make.

Well, we know where it's going to go, so we thought we'd take a short cut.
Farmer Geddon

How about answering his question instead of creating a strawman that you're both more comfortable answering.

According to the scripture JJ put forward, Jesus as Gods right hand man will know the charlatans who preach is his name and reject them.

How do you know that you, and Ketty, are not workers of Lawlessness?

Do you follow Gods Laws, or your Churches?
Jim

Farmer Geddon wrote:
How about answering his question instead of creating a strawman that you're both more comfortable answering.

According to the scripture JJ put forward, Jesus as Gods right hand man will know the charlatans who preach is his name and reject them.

How do you know that you, and Ketty, are not workers of Lawlessness?

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I can't answer for Ketty, but I suspect her answer would be the same as mine:
I follow Christ Jesus, God Incarnate!

Do you follow Gods Laws, or your Churches?
JamesJah

What does this say?

1 Corinthians 11:1
Become imitators of me, just as I am of Christ.

Do Christians take any notice of these type of teachings?
MikeRan

The only answer to that I can think of is, "Some do, some don't".
I believe that most Christians will try hard to follow Jesus because they want to be more Christlike. Everyone will fall short.
Churches can impose man made rules which lead followers to take more notice of the church's rules. They can end up being more church focussed than Christ centred - but not all by any means.
We are all weak,those who think they are'nt are kidding themselves.Church rules can give an individual some structure and security so I don't knock
them.The most important thing is not to lose sight of what Christ is all about.

The Quakers (Friends) take time to be in communication with God,they believe God resides iwithin everyone. I'm not a Quaker but believe that too (certainly fall short of the ideal too but keep on trying).
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
What does this say?

1 Corinthians 11:1
Become imitators of me, just as I am of Christ.

Do Christians take any notice of these type of teachings?

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Yes.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
What does this say?

1 Corinthians 11:1
Become imitators of me, just as I am of Christ.

Do Christians take any notice of these type of teachings?

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Yes.


Is it possible for people with your thinking to be able to pray as Christ instructed?

Matthew 6:9, 10
You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens,

let your name be sanctified.

 Let your Kingdom come.

Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth. 
JamesJah

MikeRan wrote:
The only answer to that I can think of is, "Some do, some don't".
I believe that most Christians will try hard to follow Jesus because they want to be more Christlike. Everyone will fall short.
Churches can impose man made rules which lead followers to take more notice of the church's rules. They can end up being more church focussed than Christ centred - but not all by any means.
We are all weak,those who think they are'nt are kidding themselves.Church rules can give an individual some structure and security so I don't knock
them.The most important thing is not to lose sight of what Christ is all about.

The Quakers (Friends) take time to be in communication with God,they believe God resides iwithin everyone. I'm not a Quaker but believe that too (certainly fall short of the ideal too but keep on trying).



What is the difference between the wheat and the weeds?
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
What does this say?

1 Corinthians 11:1
Become imitators of me, just as I am of Christ.

Do Christians take any notice of these type of teachings?

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Yes.


Is it possible for people with your thinking to be able to pray as Christ instructed?

Matthew 6:9, 10
You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens,

let your name be sanctified.

 Let your Kingdom come.

Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth. 



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Not using that eexecrable translation, it isn't.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
What does this say?

1 Corinthians 11:1
Become imitators of me, just as I am of Christ.

Do Christians take any notice of these type of teachings?

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Yes.


Is it possible for people with your thinking to be able to pray as Christ instructed?

Matthew 6:9, 10
You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens,

let your name be sanctified.

 Let your Kingdom come.

Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth. 



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Not using that eexecrable translation, it isn't.


Which do you choose?

“所以你們要這樣禱告+:
“‘我們在天上的父親,願你的名+彰顯為聖+。 10  願你的王國+來臨。願你的旨意+在地上實現+,像在天上一樣。
Leonard James

JJ, your whole approach seems bound up in the fact that you have swallowed lock, stock and barrel the stories about a supernatural "God".

Your "God" is just a fictional character invented by the imaginative, long-dead human who founded the Jewish religion in the days when gods were ten a penny.

The same is true for all other gods that have ever been claimed to exist.

Humanity is moving on now, and recognises that there is no need for such weird ideas.
Ketty

Leonard James wrote:
JJ, your whole approach seems bound up in the fact that you have swallowed lock, stock and barrel the stories about a supernatural "God".


Lennie, the premise of "Christian Chat" is that God exists - rather than the tedious 'Oh no he doesn't' / 'Oh yes He does' pantomime.  

I'm still not certain about which god it is that JJ is so bound up by religion.
JamesJah

Ketty wrote:
Leonard James wrote:
JJ, your whole approach seems bound up in the fact that you have swallowed lock, stock and barrel the stories about a supernatural "God".


Lennie, the premise of "Christian Chat" is that God exists - rather than the tedious 'Oh no he doesn't' / 'Oh yes He does' pantomime.  

I'm still not certain about which god it is that JJ is so bound up by religion.


As there is only one Almighty and only 66 books that reveal his purpose I would have thought it is not too difficult to ascertain which God I am the servant of?
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Ketty wrote:
Leonard James wrote:
JJ, your whole approach seems bound up in the fact that you have swallowed lock, stock and barrel the stories about a supernatural "God".


Lennie, the premise of "Christian Chat" is that God exists - rather than the tedious 'Oh no he doesn't' / 'Oh yes He does' pantomime.  

I'm still not certain about which god it is that JJ is so bound up by religion.


As there is only one Almighty and only 66 books that reveal his purpose I would have thought it is not too difficult to ascertain which God I am the servant of?



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At least you got THAT bit right...
JamesJah

2 Peter 3:3, 4
First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule,

proceeding according to their own desires and saying:

“Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.

Malachi 4:5, 6
Look! I am sending to you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and awe-inspiring day of Jehovah.

He will turn the hearts of fathers back toward sons, and the hearts of sons back toward fathers; so that I may not come and strike the earth, devoting it to destruction
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
2 Peter 3:3, 4
First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule,

proceeding according to their own desires and saying:

“Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.

Malachi 4:5, 6
Look! I am sending to you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and awe-inspiring day of Jehovah.

He will turn the hearts of fathers back toward sons, and the hearts of sons back toward fathers; so that I may not come and strike the earth, devoting it to destruction

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Not seeing any imitation of Christ Here.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
2 Peter 3:3, 4
First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule,

proceeding according to their own desires and saying:

“Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.

Malachi 4:5, 6
Look! I am sending to you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and awe-inspiring day of Jehovah.

He will turn the hearts of fathers back toward sons, and the hearts of sons back toward fathers; so that I may not come and strike the earth, devoting it to destruction

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Not seeing any imitation of Christ Here.


Perhaps that is why you do not see Jesus Father as being greater than he is?

John 14:28
I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.
JamesJah

Get out of her my people.


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