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Lexilogio

Minor Tweaks

I've been playing on the Admin panel....

I have been a bit concerned for a while about how some things discussed are seen by all - so I've hidden some areas from those not logged in.

The areas only visible when logged in are:
The Blog Area
The Bear Pit
The Prayer Room
Coffee Lounge
News

Some of this is because of the sensitive nature of some of what is posted, some is because areas like the Coffee Lounge should be somewhere we can relax, without feeling that everyone on the internet can see what is written.
Ketty

 
bnabernard

Cor blimey can other people read what I write, quik give me a bag for me head  
The Boyg

Re: Minor Tweaks

Lexilogio wrote:
I have been a bit concerned for a while about how some things discussed are seen by all.


Why are you concerned by this?
Farmer Geddon

But cause it's none of their nosy gaddamn business....



 
gone

I think that is a good idea, Lexi.
The Boyg

Re: Minor Tweaks

The Boyg wrote:
Lexilogio wrote:
I have been a bit concerned for a while about how some things discussed are seen by all.


Why are you concerned by this?


?
Lexilogio

Re: Minor Tweaks

The Boyg wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
Lexilogio wrote:
I have been a bit concerned for a while about how some things discussed are seen by all.


Why are you concerned by this?


?


I'm sorry - I wasn't aware I was required to answer.

I am concerned. People post things in the Bear Pit which can be abusive. I don't think that portrays the forum in a good light, so I'm not happy that was available for anyone on the internet to see.

The Prayer Room is a place where people sometimes choose to post quite private things. I felt it might be useful to give more privacy for that.

The Blog Area already was hidden from the outside. The Coffee Lounge should be a place for people to relax.

We have had cases where people have copied information from this site and posted it on other sites. I wanted to restrict some of that, particularly from those who are not members.

You, of course, are welcome to disagree with this. But I think I will leave it as it is now.
The Boyg

Re: Minor Tweaks

Lexilogio wrote:
People post things in the Bear Pit which can be abusive. I don't think that portrays the forum in a good light, so I'm not happy that was available for anyone on the internet to see.

The Prayer Room is a place where people sometimes choose to post quite private things. I felt it might be useful to give more privacy for that.

The Blog Area already was hidden from the outside. The Coffee Lounge should be a place for people to relax.


And 'News'?
Lexilogio

Re: Minor Tweaks

The Boyg wrote:
Lexilogio wrote:
People post things in the Bear Pit which can be abusive. I don't think that portrays the forum in a good light, so I'm not happy that was available for anyone on the internet to see.

The Prayer Room is a place where people sometimes choose to post quite private things. I felt it might be useful to give more privacy for that.

The Blog Area already was hidden from the outside. The Coffee Lounge should be a place for people to relax.


And 'News'?


There had been some private things posted.

Look - I don't care if you don't agree. This place was wide open for people anywhere to read everything. I've tightened that up a bit. My experience on other forums suggests that this does enable people to relax more, and builds a better community.
Ketty

The fact that some areas have been made private and only viewable to those members who are logged in makes not one jot of difference to the regular members who post here.  I fail to see the objection, tbh, because it doesn't change in the least our NGLR experience, and I support Lexi's decision on this.
The Boyg

Re: Minor Tweaks

Lexilogio wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
Lexilogio wrote:
People post things in the Bear Pit which can be abusive. I don't think that portrays the forum in a good light, so I'm not happy that was available for anyone on the internet to see.

The Prayer Room is a place where people sometimes choose to post quite private things. I felt it might be useful to give more privacy for that.

The Blog Area already was hidden from the outside. The Coffee Lounge should be a place for people to relax.


And 'News'?


There had been some private things posted.


Members could post 'private things' anywhere on this board, even in those areas which are still open to non-members. What are you going to do about that? Make all the areas private in case someone posts something personal in them?

Wouldn't it just be better to remind people to be sensitive about the information that they put online about themselves? (Or just pm Floo?   ).

Some of the areas that are now hidden are amongst the busiest areas of this board. From the outside this messageboard now looks even more moribund than it did before. Not very good for attracting new members.
The Boyg

Ketty wrote:
The fact that some areas have been made private and only viewable to those members who are logged in makes not one jot of difference to the regular members who post here.  I fail to see the objection, tbh, because it doesn't change in the least our NGLR experience, and I support Lexi's decision on this.


Why not hide the entire board as that won't make any difference to the "NGLR experience" of regular members either?
Ketty

The Boyg wrote:

Why not hide the entire board as that won't make any difference to the "NGLR experience" of regular members either?


A little taster as a teaser has always been a marketing ploy.  

I'm always logged in, so it never looks any different to me.
Ketty

Re: Minor Tweaks

The Boyg wrote:


Members could post 'private things' anywhere on this board, even in those areas which are still open to non-members. What are you going to do about that? Make all the areas private in case someone posts something personal in them?


I'd have no objection to that, either.  I really fail to see the issue.

The only people who would object would be those whose only activity is to lurk for less than friendly reasons, and who would be forced to log in in order to read, rather than being anonymously 'nosey'.  Ralphie's recent and very funny 'fly by' dumping in the Bear Pit is an example of what happens when people lurk to read 'gossip', and stir pots, rather than fully engage with the rest of the board.
Lexilogio

No - I wouldn't make all the Board private because people from outside need to see what the place is about. There has to be balance. This is the way I've decided to do that. Your objection is noted, but the board is not a democracy - its an oligarchy.
The Boyg

I haven't objected, just pointed out a few truths.
Shaker

The Boyg wrote:
I haven't objected, just pointed out a few truths.

PMS and, indeed, L.
cyberman

Re: Minor Tweaks

Lexilogio wrote:

Look - I don't care if you don't agree.


Go Lexi!  
The Boyg

Shaker wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
I haven't objected, just pointed out a few truths.

PMS and, indeed, L.


Probably just the former.  
cyberman

The Boyg wrote:
I haven't objected, just pointed out a few truths.


I think that describing a change as "not very good" and suggesting that alternative courses of action would be better can legitimately be characterised as an objection.
The Boyg

cyberman wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
I haven't objected, just pointed out a few truths.


I think that describing a change as "not very good" and suggesting that alternative courses of action would be better can legitimately be characterised as an objection.


Quotemining again Cyberman?  
Shaker

The Boyg wrote:
Shaker wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
I haven't objected, just pointed out a few truths.

PMS and, indeed, L.


Probably just the former.  

No. Not with your (for want of an infinitely better word and latterly mercifully infrequent) "posts" - very much the full phrase in that case, contemptuous, mocking and derisive laughter being the salient ingredient.

Jakswan's latest hamster died, I suppose? There's no other reason for you to be "contributing," after all.
The Boyg

Shaker wrote:
Jakswan's latest hamster died, I suppose?


Beware the green-eyed monster Shaky. Such jealousy makes you look quite pathetic.  
Shaker

The Boyg wrote:
Shaker wrote:
Jakswan's latest hamster died, I suppose?


Beware the green-eyed monster Shaky. Such jealousy makes you look quite pathetic.  

Jealousy? Of a site that's down more often than Kerry Katona's knickers? Of cooooouuuuurse  
The Boyg

Shaker wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
Shaker wrote:
Jakswan's latest hamster died, I suppose?


Beware the green-eyed monster Shaky. Such jealousy makes you look quite pathetic.  

Jealousy? Of a site that's down more often than Kerry Katona's knickers? Of cooooouuuuurse  


At least people notice when it's down.  

This place could sink without a trace and the only people who'd notice would be you, Cyber and pow wow. Then only because you'd have to find somewhere new to kick lumps out of each other.

Lexi's got so embarassed by your behaviour that she's had to hide it from public view because it's even more off putting to potential new members than the fact that this place gets about five new posts per day on average.  
Shaker

The Boyg wrote:
At least people notice when it's down.  

Indeed they do. They say: "Jesus Christ, is that half-arsed cobbled-together shit offline yet again? How many days has it been since the last hamster died and the last elastic band snapped?"

That's says it all about R & E, doesn't it - at least people notice it when it's down. Not when it's "functional" (using the word loosely), but they certainly notice it when it's down
The Boyg

You should be grateful that it falls over now and again.

It means that some people come here temporarily to watch the:



They soon go back again though.
Shaker

The Boyg wrote:
You should be grateful that it falls over now and again.


Oh, I am. We all need light relief now and again.

Or in R&E's case, again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again

The Boyg wrote:
It means that some people come here temporarily to watch the:



They soon go back again though.


Soon go back to watch Jakswan's calculator crash. Again  
The Boyg

Let's be honest though.

You're not comparing apples with apples. How much strain is nglreturns put under by the pitiful number of posts it receives each day?
Shaker

The Boyg wrote:
Let's be honest though.

It'll be a novelty for you.

Quote:
You're not comparing apples with apples. How much strain is nglreturns put under by the pitiful number of posts it receives each day?

None whatsoever. We go for quality, not you and wigginhall
Ketty

Now, now boys, I know you love to posture, dancing around each other with the vague threat 'puddemup, puddemuuuup!', but we're not in competition here.  NGLr has a longevity that R&E has not, it was set up for different reasons and they complement each other.  Plus, innit great that people do have a place to de-camp when R&E faints for a while?  And another plus (or some could see it as a minus) NGLr has the infamous Bear Pit.
Shaker

Ketty wrote:
NGLr has a longevity that R&E has not

I've always said that there's a place for massive and ironic understatement for comic effect in any thread  
Ketty

Shaker wrote:
Ketty wrote:
NGLr has a longevity that R&E has not

I've always said that there's a place for massive and ironic understatement for comic effect in any thread  


  One aims to please.  
Farmer Geddon

So what about the shear fact that the R&E forum is restricted too..

What is your beef MG?
The Boyg

Farmer Geddon wrote:
So what about the shear fact that the R&E forum is restricted too..


Restricted in what way?
Ketty

The Boyg wrote:


Restricted in what way?



Ssshhhh Boyg, the hidden threads that only some know about.  Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
Lexilogio

Is that what this is about? The difference between us and R&E?

I've never even BEEN on R&E - and unless someone posts something about it, I don't think about it.

There are actually a number of forums around for religious discussion. Some have slightly different focuses than others. People post on the one(s) they find / feel comfortable with / provide a sufficient route for argument. It's entirely irrelevant what another forum does or doesn't do. I hardly think the Admin of R&E makes changes depending on what we do or say here. He / she probably has far more interesting things to think about.
The Boyg

Lexilogio wrote:
Is that what this is about? The difference between us and R&E?


No, that was just a bit of knockabout with Shaky.

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