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LeClerc

Principle of the Shaliach

Hi all

Bernie has posted the following

bnabernard wrote:
It's easy to understand why you do not understand the principal of the Shaliach from your conversation with JJ, LC.

bernard (hug)


Here is a thread to investigate the principle of the Shaliach, it's meaning and it's origins.

Regards

LeClerc
bnabernard

Do continue then.

bernard (hug)
LeClerc

Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
Do continue then.

bernard (hug)


Upon assuming the leadership of Chabad in 1950, Rebbe set himself a goal: to reach every person on the face of the earth and inspire them to turn to the Torah as the guiding light by which to achieve personal and global redemption. To attain this goal, the Rebbe invented the shaliach.

Who or what is a shaliach

A shaliach (Hebrew: שליח‎, pl. שליחים/שלוחים, shlichim/shluchim) is a member of the Chabad Hasidic movement who is sent out to promulgate Judaism and Hasidism in locations around the world.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
Do continue then.

bernard (hug)


Upon assuming the leadership of Chabad in 1950, Rebbe set himself a goal: to reach every person on the face of the earth and inspire them to turn to the Torah as the guiding light by which to achieve personal and global redemption. To attain this goal, the Rebbe invented the shaliach.

Who or what is a shaliach

A shaliach (Hebrew: שליח‎, pl. שליחים/שלוחים, shlichim/shluchim) is a member of the Chabad Hasidic movement who is sent out to promulgate Judaism and Hasidism in locations around the world.

Regards

LeClerc


There was me thinking it was what I used for knotting before painting wood???


So did the Jew Jesus have it wrong when he said The eek will inherit the earth?

OR?

Matthew 5:5
Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.
bnabernard

LeClerc wrote:
Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
Do continue then.

bernard (hug)


Upon assuming the leadership of Chabad in 1950, Rebbe set himself a goal: to reach every person on the face of the earth and inspire them to turn to the Torah as the guiding light by which to achieve personal and global redemption. To attain this goal, the Rebbe invented the shaliach.

Who or what is a shaliach

A shaliach (Hebrew: שליח‎, pl. שליחים/שלוחים, shlichim/shluchim) is a member of the Chabad Hasidic movement who is sent out to promulgate Judaism and Hasidism in locations around the world.

Regards

LeClerc


Well LC it's as I thought, and as any past help has been of no use to your understanding then lets hope you will get there in the end.
Perhaps it might help to understand the understanding of when the Pope becomes God, but as I can be of no use to you  

bernard (hug)
LeClerc

Morning Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
Do continue then.

bernard (hug)


Upon assuming the leadership of Chabad in 1950, Rebbe set himself a goal: to reach every person on the face of the earth and inspire them to turn to the Torah as the guiding light by which to achieve personal and global redemption. To attain this goal, the Rebbe invented the shaliach.

Who or what is a shaliach

A shaliach (Hebrew: שליח‎, pl. שליחים/שלוחים, shlichim/shluchim) is a member of the Chabad Hasidic movement who is sent out to promulgate Judaism and Hasidism in locations around the world.

Regards

LeClerc


Well LC it's as I thought, and as any past help has been of no use to your understanding then lets hope you will get there in the end.
Perhaps it might help to understand the understanding of when the Pope becomes God, but as I can be of no use to you  

bernard (hug)


It's not easy to admit that one has swallowed a lie by those who deny that the Logos of YHWH was manifest in the flesh and given the name Y'shua and to explain away the scriptures that clearly declare this truth turn to the teaching of the Shaliach.

Unless one is born of YHWH it is impossible to see the kingdom of YHWH.

John 3
1One man of the Pharisees was living there; his name was Nicodemus. He was a leader of the Judeans. 2This man came to Yeshua at night and said to him: “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher sent from God, for no man is able to do these miracles that you are doing unless God were with him.” 3Yeshua answered and said to him: “Timeless truth I am telling you: If a person is not born again, it is impossible for that one to see the Kingdom of God.”
4Nicodemus said to him: “How can an old man be born? Is it not impossible for him again to enter his mother's womb a second time and be born?” 5Yeshua answered and said to him: “Timeless truth I am telling you: “If a person is not born from water and The Spirit, it is impossible that he shall enter the Kingdom of God. 6That which is born from flesh is flesh, and that which is born from The Spirit is spirit. 7Do not be surprised that I said to you that all of you must be born again. 8The Spirit breathes where he will, and you hear his voice, but you do not know from where he comes and where he goes; thus is everyone who is born from The Spirit.”
9Nicodemus answered and said to him, “How can these things be?” 10Yeshua answered and said to him: “You are the Teacher of Israel and you do not know these things? 11Timeless truth I speak to you: The things that We know We are speaking and the things that We see We are testifying, and Our testimony all of you do not accept. 12If I have told all of you that which is in the earth and you are not believing, how shall you believe me if I tell you that which is in Heaven? 13And no man has gone up to Heaven except he who went down from Heaven: The Son of Man - he who is in Heaven. 14And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, thus The Son of Man is going to be lifted up, 15So that every person who believes in him shall not be lost, but shall have eternal life


Repent and believe the Good News Bernie, whilst you are still able.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
Do continue then.

bernard (hug)


Upon assuming the leadership of Chabad in 1950, Rebbe set himself a goal: to reach every person on the face of the earth and inspire them to turn to the Torah as the guiding light by which to achieve personal and global redemption. To attain this goal, the Rebbe invented the shaliach.

Who or what is a shaliach

A shaliach (Hebrew: שליח‎, pl. שליחים/שלוחים, shlichim/shluchim) is a member of the Chabad Hasidic movement who is sent out to promulgate Judaism and Hasidism in locations around the world.

Regards

LeClerc


Well LC it's as I thought, and as any past help has been of no use to your understanding then lets hope you will get there in the end.
Perhaps it might help to understand the understanding of when the Pope becomes God, but as I can be of no use to you  

bernard (hug)


It's not easy to admit that one has swallowed a lie by those who deny that the Logos of YHWH was manifest in the flesh and given the name Y'shua and to explain away the scriptures that clearly declare this truth turn to the teaching of the Shaliach.

Unless one is born of YHWH it is impossible to see the kingdom of YHWH.

John 3
1One man of the Pharisees was living there; his name was Nicodemus. He was a leader of the Judeans. 2This man came to Yeshua at night and said to him: “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher sent from God, for no man is able to do these miracles that you are doing unless God were with him.” 3Yeshua answered and said to him: “Timeless truth I am telling you: If a person is not born again, it is impossible for that one to see the Kingdom of God.”
4Nicodemus said to him: “How can an old man be born? Is it not impossible for him again to enter his mother's womb a second time and be born?” 5Yeshua answered and said to him: “Timeless truth I am telling you: “If a person is not born from water and The Spirit, it is impossible that he shall enter the Kingdom of God. 6That which is born from flesh is flesh, and that which is born from The Spirit is spirit. 7Do not be surprised that I said to you that all of you must be born again. 8The Spirit breathes where he will, and you hear his voice, but you do not know from where he comes and where he goes; thus is everyone who is born from The Spirit.”
9Nicodemus answered and said to him, “How can these things be?” 10Yeshua answered and said to him: “You are the Teacher of Israel and you do not know these things? 11Timeless truth I speak to you: The things that We know We are speaking and the things that We see We are testifying, and Our testimony all of you do not accept. 12If I have told all of you that which is in the earth and you are not believing, how shall you believe me if I tell you that which is in Heaven? 13And no man has gone up to Heaven except he who went down from Heaven: The Son of Man - he who is in Heaven. 14And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, thus The Son of Man is going to be lifted up, 15So that every person who believes in him shall not be lost, but shall have eternal life


Repent and believe the Good News Bernie, whilst you are still able.

Regards

LeClerc


Yes Bernie

Believe the Good News and stop fooling around with pretenders to the throne.

Who does the lamb invite to the marriage feast?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:


Who does the lamb invite to the marriage feast?


Revelation 19
9 The angel said to me, “Write: ‘How blessed are those who have been invited to the wedding feast of the Lamb!’” Then he added, “These are God’s very words.”

17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out in a loud voice to all the birds that fly about in mid-heaven, “Come, gather together for the great feast God is giving, 18 to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of generals, the flesh of important men, the flesh of horses and their riders and the flesh of all kinds of people, free and slave, small and great!”


Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:


Who does the lamb invite to the marriage feast?


Revelation 19
9 The angel said to me, “Write: ‘How blessed are those who have been invited to the wedding feast of the Lamb!’” Then he added, “These are God’s very words.”

17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out in a loud voice to all the birds that fly about in mid-heaven, “Come, gather together for the great feast God is giving, 18 to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of generals, the flesh of important men, the flesh of horses and their riders and the flesh of all kinds of people, free and slave, small and great!”


Regards

LeClerc


If you have not responded to the invitation then you are one on this list>>

Matthew 22:1-
Once more Jesus spoke to them with illustrations, saying: 
The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a king who made a marriage feast for his son.

And he sent his slaves to call those invited to the marriage feast, but they were unwilling to come. Again he sent other slaves, saying, ‘Tell those invited: “Look! I have prepared my dinner, my bulls and fattened animals are slaughtered, and everything is ready. Come to the marriage feast.

But unconcerned they went off, one to his own field, another to his business but the rest, seizing his slaves, treated them insolently and killed them.

Matthew 22:7-10
The king grew wrathful and sent his armies and killed those murderers and burned their city. Then he said to his slaves, ‘The marriage feast is ready, but those invited were not worthy.

Therefore, go to the roads leading out of the city, and invite anyone you find to the marriage feast.’ Accordingly, those slaves went out to the roads and gathered all they found, both wicked and good; and the room for the wedding ceremonies was filled with those dining


Matthew 22:11-14
When the king came in to inspect the guests, he caught sight of a man not wearing a marriage garment. So he said to him, ‘Fellow, how did you get in here without a marriage garment?’ He was speechless.

 Then the king said to his servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and throw him into the darkness outside. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be.’

“For there are many invited, but few chosen..
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:


“For there are many invited, but few chosen..



Have you been chosen James if so how do you know ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Leclerc
Have you been invited?

Who invited you?

1 Corinthians 11:27-32
Consequently whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord. 

First let a man approve himself after scrutiny, and thus let him eat of the loaf and drink of the cup. For he that eats and drinks eats and drinks judgment against himself if he does not discern the body.

That is why many among you are weak and sickly, and quite a few are sleeping [in death]. But if we would discern what we ourselves are, we would not be judged. However, when we are judged, we are disciplined by Jehovah, that we may not become condemned with the world.
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Leclerc
Have you been invited?

Who invited you?


The Logos

The body is the remnant Israel.

JamesJah wrote:


“For there are many invited, but few chosen..



My question James.

Have you been chosen James if so how do you know ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Leclerc
Have you been invited?

Who invited you?


The Logos

The body is the remnant Israel.

JamesJah wrote:


“For there are many invited, but few chosen..



My question James.

Have you been chosen James if so how do you know ?

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the bride? and who get chosen for this privilege they know do they not>?

Who are invited to the marriage feast they on the most part do not know what they turned down. they are only interested in their own way of life.

It will be the same for the sheep and the goats will it not?

Isaiah 2:3
.many peoples will go and say:

Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob.

He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.
For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem.





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LeClerc

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Leclerc
Have you been invited?

Who invited you?


The Logos

The body is the remnant Israel.

JamesJah wrote:


“For there are many invited, but few chosen..



My question James.

Have you been chosen James if so how do you know ?

Regards

LeClerc


Isaiah 2:3
.many peoples will go and say:

Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob.

He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.
For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem.



Yes James, YHWH will rule from Jerusalem

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Yes James, YHWH will rule from Jerusalem

Regards

LeClerc


Hebrews 12:22-24
.But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God,

heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels in general assembly, and the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens, and God the Judge of all,


and the spiritual lives of righteous ones who have been made perfect, 2and Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and the sprinkled blood, which speaks in a better way than Abel’s blood.
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Yes James, YHWH will rule from Jerusalem

Regards

LeClerc


Hebrews 12:22-24
.But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God,

heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels in general assembly, and the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens, and God the Judge of all,


and the spiritual lives of righteous ones who have been made perfect, 2and Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and the sprinkled blood, which speaks in a better way than Abel’s blood.


Revelation 21
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away, and the sea was no longer there. 2 Also I saw the holy city, New Yerushalayim, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne say, “See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Yes James, YHWH will rule from Jerusalem

Regards

LeClerc


Hebrews 12:22-24
.But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God,

heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels in general assembly, and the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens, and God the Judge of all,


and the spiritual lives of righteous ones who have been made perfect, 2and Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and the sprinkled blood, which speaks in a better way than Abel’s blood.


Revelation 21
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away, and the sea was no longer there. 2 Also I saw the holy city, New Yerushalayim, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne say, “See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be

Regards

LeClerc


Where is the old heavens can you see them they are still there?

Who is the ruler of the old heavens?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Yes James, YHWH will rule from Jerusalem

Regards

LeClerc


Hebrews 12:22-24
.But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God,

heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels in general assembly, and the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens, and God the Judge of all,


and the spiritual lives of righteous ones who have been made perfect, 2and Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and the sprinkled blood, which speaks in a better way than Abel’s blood.


Revelation 21
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away, and the sea was no longer there. 2 Also I saw the holy city, New Yerushalayim, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne say, “See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be

Regards

LeClerc


Where is the old heavens can you see them they are still there?

Who is the ruler of the old heavens?


Please define which heaven you are referring too.

When do the events described in Revelation 21 take place ?

Only YHWH can dwell in the uncreated realm yet YHWH dwells in created realm too does He not.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Yes James, YHWH will rule from Jerusalem

Regards

LeClerc


Hebrews 12:22-24
.But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God,

heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels in general assembly, and the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens, and God the Judge of all,


and the spiritual lives of righteous ones who have been made perfect, 2and Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and the sprinkled blood, which speaks in a better way than Abel’s blood.


Revelation 21
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away, and the sea was no longer there. 2 Also I saw the holy city, New Yerushalayim, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne say, “See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be

Regards

LeClerc


Where is the old heavens can you see them they are still there?

Who is the ruler of the old heavens?


Please define which heaven you are referring too.

Only YHWH can dwell in the uncreated realm yet YHWH dwells in created realm too does He not.

Regards

LeClerc


The first heaven.

D y ou knowhow many there are?

2 Corinthians 4:3, 4
If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

Revelation 20:1-3
I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.

He seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for 1,000 years.
And he hurled him into the abyss and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not mislead the nations anymore until the 1,000 years were ended. After this he must be released for a little while.
LeClerc

Hello James

When do the events described in Revelation 21 take place ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

When do the events described in Revelation 21 take place ?

Regards

LeClerc


The lamb does not marry until the war of the great day is finished.

Jewish men did not go to war if they had just married so we can expect Jesus to finish with the Great day before he accepts his bride for the thousand year rule of peace.

That does not limit when he the invitation to the married feast or when the virgins are collected.



LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

When do the events described in Revelation 21 take place ?

Regards

LeClerc


The lamb does not marry until the war of the great day is finished.

Jewish men did not go to war if they had just married so we can expect Jesus to finish with the Great day before he accepts his bride for the thousand year rule of peace.

That does not limit when he the invitation to the married feast or when the virgins are collected.



So James you are saying the following events in Revelation 21 take place before the thousand year rule of peace.

Revelation 21
21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away, and the sea was no longer there. 2 Also I saw the holy city, New Yerushalayim, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne say, “See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be any death; and there will no longer be any mourning, crying or pain; because the old order has passed away.”

You have a problem with your interpretation James

Revelation 20
7 When the thousand years are over, the Adversary will be set free from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for the battle. Their number is countless as the sand on the seashore; 9 and they came up over the breadth of the Land and surrounded the camp of God’s people and the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

When do the events described in Revelation 21 take place ?

Regards

LeClerc


The lamb does not marry until the war of the great day is finished.

Jewish men did not go to war if they had just married so we can expect Jesus to finish with the Great day before he accepts his bride for the thousand year rule of peace.

That does not limit when he the invitation to the married feast or when the virgins are collected.



So James you are saying the following events in Revelation 21 take place before the thousand year rule of peace.

Revelation 21
21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away, and the sea was no longer there. 2 Also I saw the holy city, New Yerushalayim, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne say, “See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be any death; and there will no longer be any mourning, crying or pain; because the old order has passed away.”

You have a problem with your interpretation James

Revelation 20
7 When the thousand years are over, the Adversary will be set free from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for the battle. Their number is countless as the sand on the seashore; 9 and they came up over the breadth of the Land and surrounded the camp of God’s people and the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.

Regards

LeClerc


It is only a problem to those who do not know who Jesus designates as the faithful and discreet slave.
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

When do the events described in Revelation 21 take place ?

Regards

LeClerc


The lamb does not marry until the war of the great day is finished.

Jewish men did not go to war if they had just married so we can expect Jesus to finish with the Great day before he accepts his bride for the thousand year rule of peace.

That does not limit when he the invitation to the married feast or when the virgins are collected.



So James you are saying the following events in Revelation 21 take place before the thousand year rule of peace.

Revelation 21
21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away, and the sea was no longer there. 2 Also I saw the holy city, New Yerushalayim, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne say, “See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be any death; and there will no longer be any mourning, crying or pain; because the old order has passed away.”

You have a problem with your interpretation James

Revelation 20
7 When the thousand years are over, the Adversary will be set free from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for the battle. Their number is countless as the sand on the seashore; 9 and they came up over the breadth of the Land and surrounded the camp of God’s people and the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.

Regards

LeClerc


It is only a problem to those who do not know who Jesus designates as the faithful and discreet slave.


So you disqualify yourself James by your own words.

Regards

LeClerc
bnabernard

2Sa 15:13


And there came a messenger to David, saying, The hearts of the men of Israel are after Absalom.


Beware of greeks bearing gifts.

bernard (hug)
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

When do the events described in Revelation 21 take place ?

Regards

LeClerc


The lamb does not marry until the war of the great day is finished.

Jewish men did not go to war if they had just married so we can expect Jesus to finish with the Great day before he accepts his bride for the thousand year rule of peace.

That does not limit when he the invitation to the married feast or when the virgins are collected.



So James you are saying the following events in Revelation 21 take place before the thousand year rule of peace.

Revelation 21
21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had passed away, and the sea was no longer there. 2 Also I saw the holy city, New Yerushalayim, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne say, “See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be any death; and there will no longer be any mourning, crying or pain; because the old order has passed away.”

You have a problem with your interpretation James

Revelation 20
7 When the thousand years are over, the Adversary will be set free from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for the battle. Their number is countless as the sand on the seashore; 9 and they came up over the breadth of the Land and surrounded the camp of God’s people and the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.

Regards

LeClerc


It is only a problem to those who do not know who Jesus designates as the faithful and discreet slave.


So you disqualify yourself James by your own words.

Regards

LeClerc


If you can remember I told you I am a servant so try not to get the servants mixed up with the slave or the wheat mixed up with the weeds.



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LeClerc

Morning James

Please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the master that is coming?

Who is the one doing the judging?

Revelation 22:2
The one who bears witness of these things says, ‘Yes, I am coming quickly.’” “Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.

Matthew 24:48-51
“But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards,
 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity

and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be.

Can you now tell me the name of the word and the name of the God Almighty?


Revelation 19:11-16
I saw heaven opened, and look! a white horse. And the one seated on it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. His eyes are a fiery flame, and on his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, and he is clothed with an outer garment stained with blood, he is called by the name The Word of God.

Also, the armies in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen.  Out of his mouth protrudes a sharp, long sword with which to strike the nations, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron.

Moreover, he treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.

On his outer garment, yes, on his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

[ it  does not say God of gods here though now does it?
LeClerc

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the master that is coming?



Revelation 1 NWT
8  “I am the Al′pha and the O·me′ga,”says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”

I have answered your question using your NWT.

Now James please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the master that is coming?



Revelation 1 NWT
8  “I am the Al′pha and the O·me′ga,”says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”

I have answered your question using your NWT.

Now James please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Take your pick who did the almighty delegate to rule over mankind for a thousand years?

Who is the one in charge of Judging mankind?

Was it the other Alpha and Omega that was the first and last of the first Alpha and Omega creative work?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the master that is coming?



Revelation 1 NWT
8  “I am the Al′pha and the O·me′ga,”says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”

I have answered your question using your NWT.

Now James please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the master that is coming?



Revelation 1 NWT
8  “I am the Al′pha and the O·me′ga,”says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”

I have answered your question using your NWT.

Now James please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Revelation 22:2
May the undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus be with the holy ones.
LeClerc

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the master that is coming?



Revelation 1 NWT
8  “I am the Al′pha and the O·me′ga,”says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”

I have answered your question using your NWT.

Now James please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Revelation 22:2
May the undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus be with the holy ones.


So James you finally acknowledge that the Lord Jesus is The God.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the master that is coming?



Revelation 1 NWT
8  “I am the Al′pha and the O·me′ga,”says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”

I have answered your question using your NWT.

Now James please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Revelation 22:2
May the undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus be with the holy ones.


So James you finally acknowledge that the Lord Jesus is The God.

Regards

LeClerc


NO! and do not be silly I do not have the problem with the definite partial that you  have I do know the rank of most of the gods and none come equal to the Almighty God Jehovah, and none of the other gods come equal to the mighty god Jesus the son of the almighty.


Philippians 2:9-11
God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground— and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.



Who gave Jesus his power?

The God or a god?

Is Jesus the God or a god?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the master that is coming?



Revelation 1 NWT
8  “I am the Al′pha and the O·me′ga,”says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”

I have answered your question using your NWT.

Now James please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Revelation 22:2
May the undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus be with the holy ones.


So James you finally acknowledge that the Lord Jesus is The God.

Regards

LeClerc


NO! and do not be silly I do not have the problem with the definite partial that you  have I do know the rank of most of the gods and none come equal to the Almighty God Jehovah, and none of the other gods come equal to the mighty god Jesus the son of the almighty.


Philippians 2:9-11
God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground— and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.



Who gave Jesus his power?

The God or a god?

Is Jesus the God or a god?


Torah answers your question James.

Exodus 23 New World Translation
13  “You must be careful to do all that I have said to you, and you must not mention the names of other gods; they should not be heard on your lips.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the master that is coming?



Revelation 1 NWT
8  “I am the Al′pha and the O·me′ga,”says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”

I have answered your question using your NWT.

Now James please share with us James the name of The God who designates those as the faithful and discreet slave.

Regards

LeClerc


Revelation 22:2
May the undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus be with the holy ones.


So James you finally acknowledge that the Lord Jesus is The God.

Regards

LeClerc


NO! and do not be silly I do not have the problem with the definite partial that you  have I do know the rank of most of the gods and none come equal to the Almighty God Jehovah, and none of the other gods come equal to the mighty god Jesus the son of the almighty.


Philippians 2:9-11
God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground— and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.



Who gave Jesus his power?

The God or a god?

Is Jesus the God or a god?


Torah answers your question James.

Exodus 23 New World Translation
13  “You must be careful to do all that I have said to you, and you must not mention the names of other gods; they should not be heard on your lips.

Regards

LeClerc


What other gods is there a list some where?
LeClerc

JamesJah wrote:


What other gods is there a list some where?


You are the one professing to know James

JamesJah wrote:


I do know the rank of most of the gods



Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
JamesJah wrote:


What other gods is there a list some where?


You are the one professing to know James

JamesJah wrote:


I do know the rank of most of the gods



Regards

LeClerc


Now are you saying that these scriptures are not real???\/

How many names are there?

Acts 4:10-12
let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you impaled but whom

God raised up from the dead, by this one does this man stand here sound in front of you.

 This is ‘the stone that was treated by you builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’

 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another

name under heaven

that has been given among men by which we must get saved.

John 14:12-1
Most truly I say to you, whoever exercises faith in me will also do the works that I do; and he will do works greater than these, because I am going my way to the Father. 1Also, whatever you ask in my name, I will do this, so that the Father may be glorified in connection with the Son. 14 If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.
JamesJah

Is Leclerc mixing up his understanding of what is meant by calling?

John 10:33-36
The Jews answered him: We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy; for you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’?

If he called gods those against whom the word of God came and yet the scripture cannot be nullified

do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘

I am God’s Son’?


1 Corinthians 8:4-6
Now concerning the eating of food offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world and that there is no God but one.

For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many gods and many lords

there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him;

and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.


What is Jesus saying here?

Was Jesus rank new?
LeClerc

Morning James

Lets deal with this first

JamesJah wrote:
Is Leclerc mixing up his understanding of what is meant by calling?

John 10:33-36
The Jews answered him: We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy; for you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’?

If he called gods those against whom the word of God came and yet the scripture cannot be nullified

do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘

I am God’s Son’?



The Messiah and Jews would not have spoken English, would they James. Therefore what language did this excahnge take place in ?

Once you have answered that question we can move on and examine what is being said here in the context of the language of the day.

Regards

LeClerc
LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
JamesJah wrote:


What other gods is there a list some where?


You are the one professing to know James

JamesJah wrote:


I do know the rank of most of the gods



Regards

LeClerc


Now are you saying that these scriptures are not real???\/

How many names are there?

Acts 4:10-12
let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you impaled but whom

God raised up from the dead, by this one does this man stand here sound in front of you.

 This is ‘the stone that was treated by you builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’

 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another

name under heaven

that has been given among men by which we must get saved.

John 14:12-1
Most truly I say to you, whoever exercises faith in me will also do the works that I do; and he will do works greater than these, because I am going my way to the Father. 1Also, whatever you ask in my name, I will do this, so that the Father may be glorified in connection with the Son. 14 If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.


Exactly James.

The Messiah must be El Shaddai manifest in the flesh otherwise the above scriptures break YHWH's Torah.

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/exodus/23-13.htm

and James

You profess to be a follower of Messiah Y'shua do you not.

As a follower of Messiah Y'shua you profess to believe the scriptures do you not.

Philippians 2:10, 11
so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

and you profess that the Logos who became flesh is a god but not YHWH God do you not.

Judges 2 NWT
12 Thus they abandoned Jehovah, the God of their fathers, who brought them out of the land of Egypt. And they followed other gods, the gods of the peoples who were all around them, and they bowed down to them and offended Jehovah.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

A message?


When did the ransom come into force>????
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Lets deal with this first

JamesJah wrote:
Is Leclerc mixing up his understanding of what is meant by calling?

John 10:33-36
The Jews answered him: We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy; for you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’?

If he called gods those against whom the word of God came and yet the scripture cannot be nullified

do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘

I am God’s Son’?



The Messiah and Jews would not have spoken English, would they James. Therefore what language did this excahnge take place in ?

Once you have answered that question we can move on and examine what is being said here in the context of the language of the day.

Regards

LeClerc


Οι Ιουδαίοι τού απάντησαν: «Σε λιθοβολούμε, όχι για κάποιο καλό έργο, αλλά για βλασφημία  και μάλιστα επειδή εσύ, αν και είσαι άνθρωπος, κάνεις τον εαυτό σου θεό»  Ο Ιησούς τούς απάντησε: «Δεν είναι γραμμένο στο Νόμο σας: “Εγώ είπα: «Είστε θεοί»   Αν αποκάλεσε “θεούς  εκείνους ενάντια στους οποίους ήρθε ο λόγος του Θεού, και όμως η Γραφή δεν μπορεί να ακυρωθεί
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

Lets deal with this first

JamesJah wrote:
Is Leclerc mixing up his understanding of what is meant by calling?

John 10:33-36
The Jews answered him: We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy; for you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’?

If he called gods those against whom the word of God came and yet the scripture cannot be nullified

do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘

I am God’s Son’?



The Messiah and Jews would not have spoken English, would they James. Therefore what language did this excahnge take place in ?

Once you have answered that question we can move on and examine what is being said here in the context of the language of the day.

Regards

LeClerc


Οι Ιουδαίοι τού απάντησαν: «Σε λιθοβολούμε, όχι για κάποιο καλό έργο, αλλά για βλασφημία  και μάλιστα επειδή εσύ, αν και είσαι άνθρωπος, κάνεις τον εαυτό σου θεό»  Ο Ιησούς τούς απάντησε: «Δεν είναι γραμμένο στο Νόμο σας: “Εγώ είπα: «Είστε θεοί»   Αν αποκάλεσε “θεούς  εκείνους ενάντια στους οποίους ήρθε ο λόγος του Θεού, και όμως η Γραφή δεν μπορεί να ακυρωθεί


I asked

LeClerc wrote:
The Messiah and Jews would not have spoken English, would they James. Therefore what language did this exchange take place in ?

Once you have answered that question we can move on and examine what is being said here in the context of the language of the day.


Not what language were the Messianic writings written in.

Regards

LeClerc
LeClerc

Hello james

JamesJah wrote:
A message?


When did the ransom come into force>????


When it was offered.

Hebrews 8
3 For every cohen gadol is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; so this cohen gadol too has to have something he can offer.

Now James what did this cohen gadol have to offer ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello james

JamesJah wrote:
A message?


When did the ransom come into force>????


When it was offered.

Hebrews 8
3 For every cohen gadol is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; so this cohen gadol too has to have something he can offer.

Now James what did this cohen gadol have to offer ?

Regards

LeClerc



Romans 6:1
For sin must not be master over you, seeing that you are not under law but under undeserved kindness.


Romans 2:16
This will take place in the day when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind, according to the good news I declare.


Romans 6:17
But thanks to God that although you were once the slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that pattern of teaching to which you were handed over.

Galatians 3:23-25
 However, before the faith arrived, we were being guarded under law, being handed over into custody, looking to the faith that was about to be revealed. So the Law became our guardian leading to Christ, so that we might be declared righteous through faith. But now that the faith has arrived, we are no longer under a guardian.


Galatians 4:4, 5
God sent his Son, who was born of a woman and who was under law, that he might release by purchase those under law,

so that we might receive the adoption as sons.

Galatians 5:16-18
But I say, Keep walking by spirit and you will carry out no fleshly desire at all.  For the flesh is against the spirit in its desire, and the spirit against the flesh; these are opposed to each other, so that you do not do the very things you want to do. Furthermore, if you are being led by spirit, you are not under law.













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LeClerc

Hello James

Major problem you have I see.

Are you advocating lawlessness ?

Matthew 24 NWT
12  and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold.

Now James

Hebrews 8
3 For every cohen gadol is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; so this cohen gadol too has to have something he can offer.

What did this cohen gadol have to offer ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Major problem you have I see.

Are you advocating lawlessness ?

Matthew 24 NWT
12  and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold.

Now James

Hebrews 8
3 For every cohen gadol is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; so this cohen gadol too has to have something he can offer.

What did this cohen gadol have to offer ?

Regards

LeClerc


Is judgement based on bickering over words?

Is judgement based on law for the lawless?

Or is judgement of the wicked a perfect judgement?

Is such a judgement possible?

Who is the one in charge of Judgement?

Matthew 7:12
All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean.
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Major problem you have I see.

Are you advocating lawlessness ?

Matthew 24 NWT
12  and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold.

Now James

Hebrews 8
3 For every cohen gadol is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; so this cohen gadol too has to have something he can offer.

What did this cohen gadol have to offer ?

Regards

LeClerc


Is judgement based on bickering over words?

Is judgement based on law for the lawless?

Or is judgement of the wicked a perfect judgement?

Is such a judgement possible?

Who is the one in charge of Judgement?

Matthew 7:12
All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean.


So James.

Hebrews 8
3 For every cohen gadol is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; so this cohen gadol too has to have something he can offer.

What did this cohen gadol have to offer ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Hebrews 8:6-9
But now Jesus has obtained a more excellent ministry because he is also the mediator of a correspondingly better covenant,

which has been legally established on better promises. If that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no need for a second. For he does find fault with the people when he says

‘Look! The days are coming,’ says Jehovah

‘when I will make with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant.

It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, because they did not remain in my covenant, so I stopped caring for them,’ says Jehovah.

Hebrews 8:10-13
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,’ says Jehovah. ‘I will put my laws in their mind, and in their hearts I will write them. And I will become their God, and they will become my people.

And they will no longer teach each one his fellow citizen and each one his brother, saying: “Know Jehovah!” For they will all know me, from the least to the greatest of them.

For I will be merciful toward their unrighteous deeds, and I will no longer call their sins to mind.’”

 In his saying “a new covenant,” he has made the former one obsolete. Now what is obsolete and growing old is near to vanishing away.

Hebrews 7:26-28
For such a high priest as this was suitable for us, loyal, guileless, undefiled, separated from the sinners, and become higher than the heavens. He does not need daily, as those high priests do, to offer up sacrifices, first for his own sins and then for those of the people:

(for this he did once for all time when he offered himself up;)

for the Law appoints men high priests having weakness, but the word of the sworn oath that came after the Law appoints a Son, who is perfected forever.
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:


Hebrews 8:6-9
(for this he did once for all time when he offered himself up;)



Himself being what exactly ?

Hebrews 8
3 For every cohen gadol is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; so this cohen gadol too has to have something he can offer.

What did this cohen gadol have to offer ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Hebrews 9:11, 12
However, when Christ came as a high priest of the good things that have come to pass, through the greater and more perfect tent not made with hands, that is, not of this creation,

 he entered, no, not with the blood of goats and of young bulls,

but with his own blood, once for all time into the holy place and obtained an everlasting deliverance [for us]

Hebrews 9:22
Yes, nearly all things are cleansed with blood according to the Law, and unless blood is poured out no forgiveness takes place

Hebrews 10:10
By the said “will” we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all time.



Hebrews 6:19, 20
We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, both sure and firm, and it enters in within the curtain, 20 where a forerunner has entered in our behalf, Jesus, who has become a high priest

in the manner of Melchizedek forever.

Hebrews 10:19, 20
Therefore, brothers, since we have boldness for the way of entry into the holy place by the blood of Jesus,

which he opened up for us as a new and living way through

the curtain, that is, his flesh,
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hebrews 9:11, 12
However, when Christ came as a high priest of the good things that have come to pass, through the greater and more perfect tent not made with hands, that is, not of this creation,

 he entered, no, not with the blood of goats and of young bulls,

but with his own blood, once for all time into the holy place and obtained an everlasting deliverance [for us]



So James how did Y'shua enter with His own blood into the holy place since the WTBTS teach His flesh and blood were destroyed by YHWH before rising from the dead.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hebrews 9:11, 12
However, when Christ came as a high priest of the good things that have come to pass, through the greater and more perfect tent not made with hands, that is, not of this creation,

 he entered, no, not with the blood of goats and of young bulls,

but with his own blood, once for all time into the holy place and obtained an everlasting deliverance [for us]



So James how did Y'shua enter with His own blood into the holy place since the WTBTS teach His flesh and blood were destroyed by YHWH before rising from the dead.

Regards

LeClerc


Good question what is the answer?
bnabernard

What makes a place Holy  

bernard (hug)
JamesJah

bnabernard wrote:
What makes a place Holy  

bernard (hug)


Another good question, I have always wondered about the temple mount?
LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hebrews 9:11, 12
However, when Christ came as a high priest of the good things that have come to pass, through the greater and more perfect tent not made with hands, that is, not of this creation,

 he entered, no, not with the blood of goats and of young bulls,

but with his own blood, once for all time into the holy place and obtained an everlasting deliverance [for us]



So James how did Y'shua enter with His own blood into the holy place since the WTBTS teach His flesh and blood were destroyed by YHWH before rising from the dead.

Regards

LeClerc


Good question what is the answer?


To begin with, the WTBTS teaching is in error.

Regards

LeClerc
LeClerc

Morning Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
What makes a place Holy  

bernard (hug)


Exodus 19
3 Moshe went up to Elohiym, and YHWH called to him from the mountain: “Here is what you are to say to the household of Ya‘akov, to tell the people of Isra’el: 4 ‘You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I carried you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself. 5 Now if you will pay careful attention to what I say and keep my covenant, then you will be my own treasure from among all the peoples, for all the earth is mine; 6 and you will be a kingdom of cohanim for me, a nation set apart.’ These are the words you are to speak to the people of Isra’el.”

The people of the nation Israel were to be set apart, which is the basic meaning of the word Holy, to be set apart. How and by whom were the nation Israel to be set apart from the people of all other nations ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
What makes a place Holy  

bernard (hug)


Exodus 19
3 Moshe went up to Elohiym, and YHWH called to him from the mountain: “Here is what you are to say to the household of Ya‘akov, to tell the people of Isra’el: 4 ‘You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I carried you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself. 5 Now if you will pay careful attention to what I say and keep my covenant, then you will be my own treasure from among all the peoples, for all the earth is mine; 6 and you will be a kingdom of cohanim for me, a nation set apart.’ These are the words you are to speak to the people of Isra’el.”

The people of the nation Israel were to be set apart, which is the basic meaning of the word Holy, to be set apart. How and by whom were the nation Israel to be set apart from the people of all other nations ?

Regards

LeClerc



By agreeing to accept the law as a direction to their lives.

obedience to the law would set the nation apart from the nations.

Because the law was perfect and the nation was not animal sacrifices were given to them as a way of overcoming their deficiency to the law and give them a relies from there imperfections

It was this set up that pointed them to the real lamb that could take away sin if they had accepted that by doing Gods will as demonstrated by the lamb provided by Jehovah.


Matthew 7:2
Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. .



Exodus 19:3-8
Then Moses went up to the true God, and Jehovah called to him from the mountain, saying: “This is what you are to say to the house of Jacob and to tell the Israelites, ‘You have seen for yourselves what I did to the Egyptians, in order to carry you on wings of eagles and bring you to myself.

Now if you will strictly obey my voice and keep my covenant, you will certainly become my special property out of all peoples, for the whole earth belongs to me.
You will become to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words that you are to say to the Israelites.” So Moses went and summoned the elders of the people and declared to them all these words that Jehovah had commanded him.

After that all the people answered unanimously: “All that Jehovah has spoken, we are willing to do.”Moses immediately took the people’s response to Jehovah.





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LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hebrews 9:11, 12
However, when Christ came as a high priest of the good things that have come to pass, through the greater and more perfect tent not made with hands, that is, not of this creation,

 he entered, no, not with the blood of goats and of young bulls,

but with his own blood, once for all time into the holy place and obtained an everlasting deliverance [for us]



So James how did Y'shua enter with His own blood into the holy place since the WTBTS teach the following

Quote:

WTBTS publications
"For the man Jesus is dead, forever dead."(Studies in the scriptures Vol.5, p.454 1899) "Jesus as a man must remain dead for ever."(Government, p.110 1928) "For the man Jesus is dead, forever dead."(Studies in the scriptures Vol.5, p.454 1899)

"The human body of flesh, which Jesus Christ laid down forever as a ransom sacrifice, was disposed of by God's power..." (Things in Which it is Impossible for God to Lie, 1965, p. 354).

"Disposing of Jesus' physical body at the time of his resurrection presented no problem for God." (Reasoning From the Scriptures, 1989, p. 217).

"was disposed of by Jehovah God, dissolved into its constituent elements or atoms." (The Watchtower, 1st October 1955, p. 518.).



Hebrews 8
3 For every cohen gadol is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; so this cohen gadol too has to have something he can offer.

What did this cohen gadol have to offer ?

Regards

LeClerc
bnabernard

What is it that prevents God from entering a Holy place  


bernrd (hug)
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hebrews 9:11, 12
However, when Christ came as a high priest of the good things that have come to pass, through the greater and more perfect tent not made with hands, that is, not of this creation,

 he entered, no, not with the blood of goats and of young bulls,

but with his own blood, once for all time into the holy place and obtained an everlasting deliverance [for us]



So James how did Y'shua enter with His own blood into the holy place since the WTBTS teach the following

Quote:

WTBTS publications
"For the man Jesus is dead, forever dead."(Studies in the scriptures Vol.5, p.454 1899) "Jesus as a man must remain dead for ever."(Government, p.110 1928) "For the man Jesus is dead, forever dead."(Studies in the scriptures Vol.5, p.454 1899)

"The human body of flesh, which Jesus Christ laid down forever as a ransom sacrifice, was disposed of by God's power..." (Things in Which it is Impossible for God to Lie, 1965, p. 354).

"Disposing of Jesus' physical body at the time of his resurrection presented no problem for God." (Reasoning From the Scriptures, 1989, p. 217).

"was disposed of by Jehovah God, dissolved into its constituent elements or atoms." (The Watchtower, 1st October 1955, p. 518.).



Hebrews 8
3 For every cohen gadol is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; so this cohen gadol too has to have something he can offer.

What did this cohen gadol have to offer ?

Regards

LeClerc


What is offered at the memorial of Christ's death?


most things offered into the heavens in the time of Moses had to be burnt so the  smoke  would rise up to heaven then how to take blood to heaven That is a bit beyond earth peoples understanding.

Perhaps you would like to explain how it can take place?

What is this man showing the children what is inside a stone?





LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


What is offered at the memorial of Christ's death?



If this is a spirit-directed practice, what spirit is it?  Would The Set Apart Spirit direct us to go beyond the things written?  The Memorial celebration was instituted by Messiah himself and he asked all his followers to partake.  Where in scripture does it indicate the practice that JW’s carry out today, namely that the vast majority do not partake?

Y'shua made it very clear what his followers were to do at the Lord's Evening Meal that he instituted. JW's actually do read the Messiah's instructions during the Memorial from the Bible on what they are commanded by him to do at 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 (NWT)

“For I received from the Lord that which I also handed on to YOU, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was going to be handed over took a loaf and, after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body which is in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” He did likewise respecting the cup also, after he had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, as often as YOU drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as YOU eat this loaf and drink this cup, YOU keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives.”

Is this what they do?  They teach it is a command for all JW’s to attend this memorial and then are told to disobey that command with what some have called a ritualistic rejection of these emblems that represent Messiah's blood and body that he gave to cover our sins. Right after they read Y'shua’s words to “Keep doing this in remembrance of me” they are told not to do the very thing that would remind them of Y'shua, namely partake. If the majority of JW's are not in the New Covenant then why are they invited to this meal?  Is this some kind of look but don't partake meal that Messiah instituted?  Apparently the faithful and discreet slave think so.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


What is offered at the memorial of Christ's death?



If this is a spirit-directed practice, what spirit is it?  Would The Set Apart Spirit direct us to go beyond the things written?  The Memorial celebration was instituted by Messiah himself and he asked all his followers to partake.  Where in scripture does it indicate the practice that JW’s carry out today, namely that the vast majority do not partake?

Y'shua made it very clear what his followers were to do at the Lord's Evening Meal that he instituted. JW's actually do read the Messiah's instructions during the Memorial from the Bible on what they are commanded by him to do at 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 (NWT)

“For I received from the Lord that which I also handed on to YOU, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was going to be handed over took a loaf and, after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body which is in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” He did likewise respecting the cup also, after he had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, as often as YOU drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as YOU eat this loaf and drink this cup, YOU keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives.”

Is this what they do?  They teach it is a command for all JW’s to attend this memorial and then are told to disobey that command with what some have called a ritualistic rejection of these emblems that represent Messiah's blood and body that he gave to cover our sins. Right after they read Y'shua’s words to “Keep doing this in remembrance of me” they are told not to do the very thing that would remind them of Y'shua, namely partake. If the majority of JW's are not in the New Covenant then why are they invited to this meal?  Is this some kind of look but don't partake meal that Messiah instituted?  Apparently the faithful and discreet slave think so.

Regards

LeClerc


What does it mean to discern the body?



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LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


What is offered at the memorial of Christ's death?



If this is a spirit-directed practice, what spirit is it?  Would The Set Apart Spirit direct us to go beyond the things written?  The Memorial celebration was instituted by Messiah himself and he asked all his followers to partake.  Where in scripture does it indicate the practice that JW’s carry out today, namely that the vast majority do not partake?

Y'shua made it very clear what his followers were to do at the Lord's Evening Meal that he instituted. JW's actually do read the Messiah's instructions during the Memorial from the Bible on what they are commanded by him to do at 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 (NWT)

“For I received from the Lord that which I also handed on to YOU, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was going to be handed over took a loaf and, after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body which is in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” He did likewise respecting the cup also, after he had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, as often as YOU drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as YOU eat this loaf and drink this cup, YOU keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives.”

Is this what they do?  They teach it is a command for all JW’s to attend this memorial and then are told to disobey that command with what some have called a ritualistic rejection of these emblems that represent Messiah's blood and body that he gave to cover our sins. Right after they read Y'shua’s words to “Keep doing this in remembrance of me” they are told not to do the very thing that would remind them of Y'shua, namely partake. If the majority of JW's are not in the New Covenant then why are they invited to this meal?  Is this some kind of look but don't partake meal that Messiah instituted?  Apparently the faithful and discreet slave think so.

Regards

LeClerc


What does it mean to discern the body?



To discern those who belong to Messiah Y'shua, and they are known as remnant Israel.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


What is offered at the memorial of Christ's death?



If this is a spirit-directed practice, what spirit is it?  Would The Set Apart Spirit direct us to go beyond the things written?  The Memorial celebration was instituted by Messiah himself and he asked all his followers to partake.  Where in scripture does it indicate the practice that JW’s carry out today, namely that the vast majority do not partake?

Y'shua made it very clear what his followers were to do at the Lord's Evening Meal that he instituted. JW's actually do read the Messiah's instructions during the Memorial from the Bible on what they are commanded by him to do at 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 (NWT)

“For I received from the Lord that which I also handed on to YOU, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was going to be handed over took a loaf and, after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body which is in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” He did likewise respecting the cup also, after he had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, as often as YOU drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as YOU eat this loaf and drink this cup, YOU keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives.”

Is this what they do?  They teach it is a command for all JW’s to attend this memorial and then are told to disobey that command with what some have called a ritualistic rejection of these emblems that represent Messiah's blood and body that he gave to cover our sins. Right after they read Y'shua’s words to “Keep doing this in remembrance of me” they are told not to do the very thing that would remind them of Y'shua, namely partake. If the majority of JW's are not in the New Covenant then why are they invited to this meal?  Is this some kind of look but don't partake meal that Messiah instituted?  Apparently the faithful and discreet slave think so.

Regards

LeClerc


What does it mean to discern the body?



To discern those who belong to Messiah Y'shua, and they are known as remnant Israel.

Regards

LeClerc



1 Corinthians 11:27-30
 Consequently whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord. 28 First let a man approve himself after scrutiny, and thus let him eat of the loaf and drink of the cup. For he that eats and drinks eats and drinks judgment against himself if he does not discern the body. That is why many among you are weak and sickly, and quite a few are sleeping [in death]. 31 But if we would discern what we ourselves are, we would not be judged.
LeClerc

Hello James

What is Paul beginning to instruct in the following scripture ?

1 Corinthians 11
17 But in giving you this next instruction I do not praise you, because when you meet together it does more harm than good! 18 For, in the first place, I hear that when you gather together as a congregation you divide up into cliques; and to a degree I believe it 19 (granted that there must be some divisions among you in order to show who are the ones in the right). 20 Thus, when you gather together, it is not to eat a meal of the Lord; 21 because as you eat your meal, each one goes ahead on his own; so that one stays hungry while another is already drunk!

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

What is Paul beginning to instruct in the following scripture ?

1 Corinthians 11
17 But in giving you this next instruction I do not praise you, because when you meet together it does more harm than good! 18 For, in the first place, I hear that when you gather together as a congregation you divide up into cliques; and to a degree I believe it 19 (granted that there must be some divisions among you in order to show who are the ones in the right). 20 Thus, when you gather together, it is not to eat a meal of the Lord; 21 because as you eat your meal, each one goes ahead on his own; so that one stays hungry while another is already drunk!

Regards

LeClerc


Have you got the sense of the first scripture yet Leclerc?

How many make up the body of the Christ?




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LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

What is Paul beginning to instruct in the following scripture ?

1 Corinthians 11
17 But in giving you this next instruction I do not praise you, because when you meet together it does more harm than good! 18 For, in the first place, I hear that when you gather together as a congregation you divide up into cliques; and to a degree I believe it 19 (granted that there must be some divisions among you in order to show who are the ones in the right). 20 Thus, when you gather together, it is not to eat a meal of the Lord; 21 because as you eat your meal, each one goes ahead on his own; so that one stays hungry while another is already drunk!

Regards

LeClerc


Have you got the sense of the first scripture yet Leclerc?

How many make up the body of the Christ?


All those, who enter by grace through faith in the blood of Israel's Messiah, Y'shua ben Yosef, into the new covenant with YHWH.

Now James who does YHWH say He will make the new covenant with.

Hebrews 8

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.
7 Indeed, if the first covenant had not given ground for faultfinding, there would have been no need for a second one.
8 For God does find fault with the people when he says,

“‘See! The days are coming,’ says YHWH, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.

9 “‘It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,’ says YHWH.10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says YHWH:‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts;I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know YHWH!”For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest, 12 because I will be merciful toward their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.’”


Now James who are those who are of the wild olive tree grafted into ?

Romans 8
24 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

Regards

LeClerc
Sebastian Toe

JamesJah wrote:

What is this man showing the children what is inside a stone?



What man?
What children?
What stone?

have you posted the correct image?
JamesJah

Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

What is this man showing the children what is inside a stone?



What man?
What children?
What stone?

have you posted the correct image?


Any old man

any young children.

A nice piece of flint.
LeClerc

Afternoon James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

What is Paul beginning to instruct in the following scripture ?

1 Corinthians 11
17 But in giving you this next instruction I do not praise you, because when you meet together it does more harm than good! 18 For, in the first place, I hear that when you gather together as a congregation you divide up into cliques; and to a degree I believe it 19 (granted that there must be some divisions among you in order to show who are the ones in the right). 20 Thus, when you gather together, it is not to eat a meal of the Lord; 21 because as you eat your meal, each one goes ahead on his own; so that one stays hungry while another is already drunk!

Regards

LeClerc


Have you got the sense of the first scripture yet Leclerc?

How many make up the body of the Christ?


All those, who enter by grace through faith in the blood of Israel's Messiah, Y'shua ben Yosef, into the new covenant with YHWH.

Now James who does YHWH say He will make the new covenant with.

Hebrews 8

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.
7 Indeed, if the first covenant had not given ground for faultfinding, there would have been no need for a second one.
8 For God does find fault with the people when he says,

“‘See! The days are coming,’ says YHWH, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.

9 “‘It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,’ says YHWH.10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says YHWH:‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts;I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know YHWH!”For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest, 12 because I will be merciful toward their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.’”


Now James who are those who are of the wild olive tree grafted into ?

Romans 8
24 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Hallow Leclerc do you mean YaHaWaH?????
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hallow Leclerc do you mean YaHaWaH?????


I meant what I posted.

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

What is Paul beginning to instruct in the following scripture ?

1 Corinthians 11
17 But in giving you this next instruction I do not praise you, because when you meet together it does more harm than good! 18 For, in the first place, I hear that when you gather together as a congregation you divide up into cliques; and to a degree I believe it 19 (granted that there must be some divisions among you in order to show who are the ones in the right). 20 Thus, when you gather together, it is not to eat a meal of the Lord; 21 because as you eat your meal, each one goes ahead on his own; so that one stays hungry while another is already drunk!

Regards

LeClerc


Have you got the sense of the first scripture yet Leclerc?

How many make up the body of the Christ?


All those, who enter by grace through faith in the blood of Israel's Messiah, Y'shua ben Yosef, into the new covenant with YHWH.

Now James who does YHWH say He will make the new covenant with.

Hebrews 8

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.
7 Indeed, if the first covenant had not given ground for faultfinding, there would have been no need for a second one.
8 For God does find fault with the people when he says,

“‘See! The days are coming,’ says YHWH, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.

9 “‘It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,’ says YHWH.10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says YHWH:‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts;I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know YHWH!”For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest, 12 because I will be merciful toward their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.’”


Now James who are those who are of the wild olive tree grafted into ?

Romans 8
24 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Hallow Leclerc who are the trees here?


Revelation 22:2
On both sides of the river were trees of life producing crops of fruit, yielding their fruit each month. And the leaves of the trees were for the healing of the nations.
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hallow Leclerc do you mean YaHaWaH?????


I meant what I posted.

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

What is Paul beginning to instruct in the following scripture ?

1 Corinthians 11
17 But in giving you this next instruction I do not praise you, because when you meet together it does more harm than good! 18 For, in the first place, I hear that when you gather together as a congregation you divide up into cliques; and to a degree I believe it 19 (granted that there must be some divisions among you in order to show who are the ones in the right). 20 Thus, when you gather together, it is not to eat a meal of the Lord; 21 because as you eat your meal, each one goes ahead on his own; so that one stays hungry while another is already drunk!

Regards

LeClerc


Have you got the sense of the first scripture yet Leclerc?

How many make up the body of the Christ?


All those, who enter by grace through faith in the blood of Israel's Messiah, Y'shua ben Yosef, into the new covenant with YHWH.

Now James who does YHWH say He will make the new covenant with.

Hebrews 8

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.
7 Indeed, if the first covenant had not given ground for faultfinding, there would have been no need for a second one.
8 For God does find fault with the people when he says,

“‘See! The days are coming,’ says YHWH, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.

9 “‘It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,’ says YHWH.10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says YHWH:‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts;I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know YHWH!”For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest, 12 because I will be merciful toward their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.’”


Now James who are those who are of the wild olive tree grafted into ?

Romans 8
24 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

Regards

LeClerc


When writing in English or when the Jew reads he inserts the vowels so where are your vowels?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hallow Leclerc do you mean YaHaWaH?????


I meant what I posted.

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

What is Paul beginning to instruct in the following scripture ?

1 Corinthians 11
17 But in giving you this next instruction I do not praise you, because when you meet together it does more harm than good! 18 For, in the first place, I hear that when you gather together as a congregation you divide up into cliques; and to a degree I believe it 19 (granted that there must be some divisions among you in order to show who are the ones in the right). 20 Thus, when you gather together, it is not to eat a meal of the Lord; 21 because as you eat your meal, each one goes ahead on his own; so that one stays hungry while another is already drunk!

Regards

LeClerc


Have you got the sense of the first scripture yet Leclerc?

How many make up the body of the Christ?


All those, who enter by grace through faith in the blood of Israel's Messiah, Y'shua ben Yosef, into the new covenant with YHWH.

Now James who does YHWH say He will make the new covenant with.

Hebrews 8

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.
7 Indeed, if the first covenant had not given ground for faultfinding, there would have been no need for a second one.
8 For God does find fault with the people when he says,

“‘See! The days are coming,’ says YHWH, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.

9 “‘It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,’ says YHWH.10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says YHWH:‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts;I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know YHWH!”For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest, 12 because I will be merciful toward their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.’”


Now James who are those who are of the wild olive tree grafted into ?

Romans 8
24 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

Regards

LeClerc


When writing in English or when the Jew reads he inserts the vowels so where are your vowels?


There were no vowel pointers in the original Hebrew, the Masoretes inserted them later.

Regards

LeClerc
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hallow Leclerc who are the trees here?


Revelation 22:2
On both sides of the river were trees of life producing crops of fruit, yielding their fruit each month. And the leaves of the trees were for the healing of the nations.


No James, the tree of life singular, same Greek word ξύλον translated stake in your translation.

Acts 13
29 And when they had accomplished all the things written about him, they took him down from the stake* and laid him in a tomb.

ξύλον *tree.

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

What is Paul beginning to instruct in the following scripture ?

1 Corinthians 11
17 But in giving you this next instruction I do not praise you, because when you meet together it does more harm than good! 18 For, in the first place, I hear that when you gather together as a congregation you divide up into cliques; and to a degree I believe it 19 (granted that there must be some divisions among you in order to show who are the ones in the right). 20 Thus, when you gather together, it is not to eat a meal of the Lord; 21 because as you eat your meal, each one goes ahead on his own; so that one stays hungry while another is already drunk!

Regards

LeClerc


Have you got the sense of the first scripture yet Leclerc?

How many make up the body of the Christ?


All those, who enter by grace through faith in the blood of Israel's Messiah, Y'shua ben Yosef, into the new covenant with YHWH.

Now James who does YHWH say He will make the new covenant with.

Hebrews 8

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.
7 Indeed, if the first covenant had not given ground for faultfinding, there would have been no need for a second one.
8 For God does find fault with the people when he says,

“‘See! The days are coming,’ says YHWH, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.

9 “‘It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,’ says YHWH.10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says YHWH:‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts;I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know YHWH!”For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest, 12 because I will be merciful toward their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.’”


Now James who are those who are of the wild olive tree grafted into ?

Romans 8
24 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

[quote="LeClerc:109537"]Hello James

[quote="JamesJah:109517"][quote="LeClerc:109512"]Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hallow Leclerc do you mean YaHaWaH?????




Quote:

There were no vowel pointers in the original Hebrew, the Masoretes inserted them later.

Regards

LeClerc


There are none in the early script because the Hebrews recognised where they should be easily when it became uncertain as to what the vowel should be then they were inserted with markers just as in Arabic

You obviously do not know which vowel goes where which is the same for most translators of today, is that not the case?


.
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Hallow Leclerc who are the trees here?


Revelation 22:2
On both sides of the river were trees of life producing crops of fruit, yielding their fruit each month. And the leaves of the trees were for the healing of the nations.


No James, the tree of life singular, same Greek word ξύλον translated stake in your translation.

Acts 13
29 And when they had accomplished all the things written about him, they took him down from the stake* and laid him in a tomb.

ξύλον *tree.

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

What is Paul beginning to instruct in the following scripture ?

1 Corinthians 11
17 But in giving you this next instruction I do not praise you, because when you meet together it does more harm than good! 18 For, in the first place, I hear that when you gather together as a congregation you divide up into cliques; and to a degree I believe it 19 (granted that there must be some divisions among you in order to show who are the ones in the right). 20 Thus, when you gather together, it is not to eat a meal of the Lord; 21 because as you eat your meal, each one goes ahead on his own; so that one stays hungry while another is already drunk!

Regards

LeClerc


Have you got the sense of the first scripture yet Leclerc?

How many make up the body of the Christ?


All those, who enter by grace through faith in the blood of Israel's Messiah, Y'shua ben Yosef, into the new covenant with YHWH.

Now James who does YHWH say He will make the new covenant with.

Hebrews 8

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.
7 Indeed, if the first covenant had not given ground for faultfinding, there would have been no need for a second one.
8 For God does find fault with the people when he says,

“‘See! The days are coming,’ says YHWH, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.

9 “‘It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,’ says YHWH.10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says YHWH:‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts;I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know YHWH!”For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest, 12 because I will be merciful toward their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.’”


Now James who are those who are of the wild olive tree grafted into ?

Romans 8
24 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

Regards

LeClerc


What is Gods purpose?
2 Corinthians 5:20-6:2
Therefore, we are ambassadors substituting for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us. As substitutes for Christ, we beg: Become reconciled to God.” The one, who did not know sin, he made to be sin for us, so that by means of him we might become God’s righteousness.  
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Working together with him, we also urge you not to accept the undeserved kindness of God and miss its purpose. [/cplor]

For he says: In an acceptable time I heard you, and in a day of salvation I helped you. Look! Now is the especially acceptable time. Look! Now is the day of salvation.
LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


There are none in the early script because the Hebrews recognised where they should be easily when it became uncertain as to what the vowel should be then they were inserted with markers just as in Arabic

You obviously do not know which vowel goes where which is the same for most translators of today, is that not the case?



Walk in The Spirit not the flesh James then you will know The Father's Name.

Regards

LeClerc
LeClerc

Hello James

You asked a question James and have been given the answer from Scripture. Do you not like the answer.

JamesJah wrote:
Hallow Leclerc who are the trees here?


Revelation 22:2
On both sides of the river were trees of life producing crops of fruit, yielding their fruit each month. And the leaves of the trees were for the healing of the nations.


No James, the tree of life singular, same Greek word ξύλον translated stake in your translation.

Acts 13
29 And when they had accomplished all the things written about him, they took him down from the stake* and laid him in a tomb.

ξύλον *tree.

Now James, please answer the questions I have asked.

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

What is Paul beginning to instruct in the following scripture ?

1 Corinthians 11
17 But in giving you this next instruction I do not praise you, because when you meet together it does more harm than good! 18 For, in the first place, I hear that when you gather together as a congregation you divide up into cliques; and to a degree I believe it 19 (granted that there must be some divisions among you in order to show who are the ones in the right). 20 Thus, when you gather together, it is not to eat a meal of the Lord; 21 because as you eat your meal, each one goes ahead on his own; so that one stays hungry while another is already drunk!

Regards

LeClerc


Have you got the sense of the first scripture yet Leclerc?

How many make up the body of the Christ?


All those, who enter by grace through faith in the blood of Israel's Messiah, Y'shua ben Yosef, into the new covenant with YHWH.

Now James who does YHWH say He will make the new covenant with.

Hebrews 8

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.
7 Indeed, if the first covenant had not given ground for faultfinding, there would have been no need for a second one.
8 For God does find fault with the people when he says,

“‘See! The days are coming,’ says YHWH, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.

9 “‘It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,’ says YHWH.10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says YHWH:‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts;I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know YHWH!”For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest, 12 because I will be merciful toward their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.’”


Now James who are those who are of the wild olive tree grafted into ?

Romans 8
24 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Are these singular or plural Leclerc?

Psalm 1:1-3
.Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.  But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And he reads His law in an undertone day and night.  He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliage of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.
LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Are these singular or plural Leclerc?

Psalm 1:1-3
.Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.  But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And he reads His law in an undertone day and night.  He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliage of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.


The tree, ξύλον in The Septuagint, is singular.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Are these singular or plural Leclerc?

Psalm 1:1-3
.Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.  But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And he reads His law in an undertone day and night.  He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliage of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.


The tree, ξύλον in The Septuagint, is singular.

Regards

So can only one person become one or is it open to any person who falls in line with what is written?






LeClerc
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Are these singular or plural Leclerc?

Psalm 1:1-3
.Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.  But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And he reads His law in an undertone day and night.  He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliage of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.


The tree, ξύλον in The Septuagint, is singular.

Regards

LeClerc


So can only one person become one or is it open to any person who falls in line with what is written?



One tree many branches James.

and James I believe you have posted that the law was abolished.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Are these singular or plural Leclerc?

Psalm 1:1-3
.Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.  But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And he reads His law in an undertone day and night.  He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliage of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.


The tree, ξύλον in The Septuagint, is singular.

Regards

LeClerc


So can only one person become one or is it open to any person who falls in line with what is written?



One tree many branches James.

and James I believe you have posted that the law was abolished.

Regards

LeClerc


You are starting to get your trees plural confused are you not?

Jeremiah 17:7, 8
Blessed is the man who puts his trust in Jehovah, Whose confidence is in Jehovah.  He will become like a tree planted by the waters, That sends out its roots to the stream. He will not notice when heat comes, But his leaves will always flourish. And in the year of drought he will not be anxious, Nor will he quit producing fruit.
JamesJah

Wjo or what make up this tree?

Matthew 13:31, 32
.He presented another illustration to them, saying:

“The Kingdom of the heavens is like a mustard grain that a man took and planted in his field

 It is, in fact, the tiniest of all the seeds, but when it has grown, it is the largest of the vegetable plants and becomes a tree,

so that the birds of heaven come and find lodging among its branches.”

Who make up the tree and who are the birds?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Are these singular or plural Leclerc?

Psalm 1:1-3
.Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.  But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And he reads His law in an undertone day and night.  He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliage of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.


The tree, ξύλον in The Septuagint, is singular.

Regards

LeClerc


So can only one person become one or is it open to any person who falls in line with what is written?



One tree many branches James.

and James I believe you have posted that the law was abolished.

Regards

LeClerc


You are starting to get your trees plural confused are you not?

Jeremiah 17:7, 8
Blessed is the man who puts his trust in Jehovah, Whose confidence is in Jehovah.  He will become like a tree planted by the waters, That sends out its roots to the stream. He will not notice when heat comes, But his leaves will always flourish. And in the year of drought he will not be anxious, Nor will he quit producing fruit.


The tree ξύλον in the Septuagint is singular.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Are these singular or plural Leclerc?

Psalm 1:1-3
.Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.  But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And he reads His law in an undertone day and night.  He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliage of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.


The tree, ξύλον in The Septuagint, is singular.

Regards

LeClerc


So can only one person become one or is it open to any person who falls in line with what is written?



One tree many branches James.

and James I believe you have posted that the law was abolished.

Regards

LeClerc


You are starting to get your trees plural confused are you not?

Jeremiah 17:7, 8
Blessed is the man who puts his trust in Jehovah, Whose confidence is in Jehovah.  He will become like a tree planted by the waters, That sends out its roots to the stream. He will not notice when heat comes, But his leaves will always flourish. And in the year of drought he will not be anxious, Nor will he quit producing fruit.


The tree ξύλον in the Septuagint is singular.

Regards

LeClerc


Who make up the one tree of the kingdom of the heavens?

Who are the birds that lodge in the tree?


Who make up the bride?

Who make up the body, of the Christ?

What happens to the weed Christians?

Where are the wheat Christians today?

Luke 12:32
Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom.


Revelation 14:1
Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.



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Rose

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Are these singular or plural Leclerc?

Psalm 1:1-3
.Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.  But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And he reads His law in an undertone day and night.  He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliage of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.


The tree, ξύλον in The Septuagint, is singular.

Regards

LeClerc


So can only one person become one or is it open to any person who falls in line with what is written?



One tree many branches James.

and James I believe you have posted that the law was abolished.

Regards

LeClerc


You are starting to get your trees plural confused are you not?

Jeremiah 17:7, 8
Blessed is the man who puts his trust in Jehovah, Whose confidence is in Jehovah.  He will become like a tree planted by the waters, That sends out its roots to the stream. He will not notice when heat comes, But his leaves will always flourish. And in the year of drought he will not be anxious, Nor will he quit producing fruit.


The tree ξύλον in the Septuagint is singular.

Regards

LeClerc


Who make up the one tree of the kingdom of the heavens?

Who are the birds that lodge in the tree?


Who make up the bride?

Who make up the body, of the Christ?

What happens to the weed Christians?

Where are the wheat Christians today?

Luke 12:32
Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom.


Revelation 14:1
Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.



Click to see full size image



I didn't think there were any weedy Christians because they had all listened to Jesus, I thought the weeds referred to everyone else who didn't listen?



Julie
JamesJah

[quote="Rose:109734"]
JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
Are these singular or plural Leclerc?

Psalm 1:1-3
.Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers.  But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And he reads His law in an undertone day and night.  He will be like a tree planted by streams of water, A tree that produces fruit in its season, The foliage of which does not wither. And everything he does will succeed.


The tree, ξύλον in The Septuagint, is singular.

Regards

LeClerc


So can only one person become one or is it open to any person who falls in line with what is written?



One tree many branches James.

and James I believe you have posted that the law was abolished.

Regards

LeClerc


You are starting to get your trees plural confused are you not?

Jeremiah 17:7, 8
Blessed is the man who puts his trust in Jehovah, Whose confidence is in Jehovah.  He will become like a tree planted by the waters, That sends out its roots to the stream. He will not notice when heat comes, But his leaves will always flourish. And in the year of drought he will not be anxious, Nor will he quit producing fruit.


The tree ξύλον in the Septuagint is singular.

Regards

LeClerc


Who make up the one tree of the kingdom of the heavens?

Who are the birds that lodge in the tree?


Who make up the bride?

Who make up the body, of the Christ?

What happens to the weed Christians?

Where are the wheat Christians today?

Luke 12:32
Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom.


Revelation 14:1
Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.



I didn't think there were any weedy Christians because they had all listened to Jesus, I thought the weeds referred to everyone else who didn't listen?



Julie


Jesus was speaking about the future congregation after he had planted only good seed some one came and planted the weeds.

At the end of the age would be the harvest which is at the end of the age, one of the main reasons for getting out of Babylon the Great, is it not?


Matthew 13:27-30
Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it have weeds?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ He said, ‘No, for fear that while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them.

 Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse..



Where is the wheat today?
LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


Who make up the one tree of the kingdom of the heavens?

Who are the birds that lodge in the tree?

Who make up the bride?

Who make up the body, of the Christ?

What happens to the weed Christians?

Where are the wheat Christians today?



You keep asking the wrong questions James, how can you hope to arrive at the correct answer.

The question you should be asking James is the same as the jailer, because you belong to an organisation, the WTBTS, which keeps its prisoners in chains.

Acts 16
25 Around midnight, Sha’ul and Sila were praying and singing hymns to God, while the other prisoners listened attentively.
26 Suddenly there was a violent earthquake which shook the prison to its foundations. All the doors flew open and everyone’s chains came loose.
27 The jailer awoke, and when he saw the doors open he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, for he assumed that the prisoners had escaped.
28 But Sha’ul shouted, “Don’t harm yourself! We’re all here!”
29 Calling for lights, the jailer ran in, began to tremble and fell down in front of Sha’ul and Sila.
30 Then, leading them outside, he said, “Men, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They said, “Trust in the Lord Yeshua, and you will be saved — you and your household!”
32 Whereupon they told him and everyone in his household the message about the Lord.
33 Then, even at that late hour of the night, the jailer took them and washed off their wounds; and without delay, he and all his people were immersed.
34 After that, he brought them up to his house and set food in front of them; and he and his entire household celebrated their having come to trust in God.


According to the Messianic Writings James, what must you do to be saved or did Shaul and Sila deceive the jailer and his household ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


Who make up the one tree of the kingdom of the heavens?

Who are the birds that lodge in the tree?

Who make up the bride?

Who make up the body, of the Christ?

What happens to the weed Christians?

Where are the wheat Christians today?



You keep asking the wrong questions James, how can you hope to arrive at the correct answer.

The question you should be asking James is the same as the jailer, because you belong to an organisation, the WTBTS, which keeps its prisoners in chains.

Acts 16
25 Around midnight, Sha’ul and Sila were praying and singing hymns to God, while the other prisoners listened attentively.
26 Suddenly there was a violent earthquake which shook the prison to its foundations. All the doors flew open and everyone’s chains came loose.
27 The jailer awoke, and when he saw the doors open he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, for he assumed that the prisoners had escaped.
28 But Sha’ul shouted, “Don’t harm yourself! We’re all here!”
29 Calling for lights, the jailer ran in, began to tremble and fell down in front of Sha’ul and Sila.
30 Then, leading them outside, he said, “Men, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They said, “Trust in the Lord Yeshua, and you will be saved — you and your household!”
32 Whereupon they told him and everyone in his household the message about the Lord.
33 Then, even at that late hour of the night, the jailer took them and washed off their wounds; and without delay, he and all his people were immersed.
34 After that, he brought them up to his house and set food in front of them; and he and his entire household celebrated their having come to trust in God.


According to the Messianic Writings James, what must you do to be saved or did Shaul and Sila deceive the jailer and his household ?

Regards

LeClerc


One is either a clave for the Christ or a slave of the flesh, one is either moving into the light of Gods word or one is remaining in darkness.

You should know which by being able to answer those questions or not being able to.



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LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


One is either a clave for the Christ or a slave of the flesh, one is either moving into the light of Gods word or one is remaining in darkness.



If you are claiming to be moving in the light of God's word then as I have asked numerous times, who does YHWH say He will make the new covenant with.

Hebrews 8

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.
7 Indeed, if the first covenant had not given ground for faultfinding, there would have been no need for a second one.
8 For God does find fault with the people when he says,

“‘See! The days are coming,’ says YHWH, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.

9 “‘It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,’ says YHWH.10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says YHWH:‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts;I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know YHWH!”For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest, 12 because I will be merciful toward their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.’”


Now James who are those who are of the wild olive tree grafted into ?

Romans 8
24 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

Stiil waiting James, are you unable to answer because you remain in the darkness.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


One is either a clave for the Christ or a slave of the flesh, one is either moving into the light of Gods word or one is remaining in darkness.



If you are claiming to be moving in the light of God's word then as I have asked numerous times, who does YHWH say He will make the new covenant with.

Hebrews 8

6 But now the work Yeshua has been given to do is far superior to theirs, just as the covenant he mediates is better. For this covenant has been given as Torah on the basis of better promises.
7 Indeed, if the first covenant had not given ground for faultfinding, there would have been no need for a second one.
8 For God does find fault with the people when he says,

“‘See! The days are coming,’ says YHWH, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.

9 “‘It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,’ says YHWH.10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says YHWH:‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts;I will be their God, and they will be my people.
11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know YHWH!”For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest, 12 because I will be merciful toward their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.’”


Now James who are those who are of the wild olive tree grafted into ?

Romans 8
24 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree!

Stiil waiting James, are you unable to answer because you remain in the darkness.

Regards

LeClerc


You are speaking about things of which applied to the little flock, if you had moved forward and not stood still you would know what I mean.

You are still living by tradition, something not for Christians living at the end of the age,

I have listed a number of time many things which are applicable to the time of the end and most important for those who wish to find themselves in the Almighties favour at the time of the end.

For example I remember giving you one very important scripture advice given by Jesus that all Christians should take note of.

Revelation 18:4, 5
I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 


Who is it we must get out of and why?
Sebastian Toe

JamesJah wrote:



Who is it we must get out of and why?


Do you know?
JamesJah

Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:



Who is it we must get out of and why?


Do you know?


Simple her judgement hour has arrived.

Revelation 18:6-8
Repay her in the way she treated others, yes, pay her back double for the things she has done; in the cup she has mixed, mix a double portion for her. To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For she keeps saying in her heart: ‘I sit as queen, and I am not a widow, and I will never see mourning.’ That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong.
Sebastian Toe

JamesJah wrote:
Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:



Who is it we must get out of and why?


Do you know?


Simple her judgement hour has arrived.

.

Simple? Not the way you portray it!

Can you articulate that in a way, preferably in plain common English, that can actually be understood by most reasonably intelligent people?

Who's judgement hour has arrived?
When did it arrive?
What is a judgement hour?
How long is a judgement hour?
How do 'we' 'get out' of her?
Who is 'we'?

Keep it 'simple' this time please?
JamesJah

Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:



Who is it we must get out of and why?


Do you know?


Simple her judgement hour has arrived.

.

Simple? Not the way you portray it!

Can you articulate that in a way, preferably in plain common English, that can actually be understood by most reasonably intelligent people?

Who's judgement hour has arrived?
When did it arrive?
What is a judgement hour?
How long is a judgement hour?
How do 'we' 'get out' of her?
Who is 'we'?

Keep it 'simple' this time please?


Most reasonable people understand it. the rest try not to understand it,

And most have no wish to understand it if they did they would only have to ask a JW to help them.

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