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Lexilogio

Prophets and saints

What is the difference between a prophet and a saint?
gone

None because neither exist in reality, imo!
Ketty

All (Christian) prophets are saints but not all (Christian) saints are prophets.
Jim

Re: Prophets and saints

Well, in its' New Testament sense, "saints" were those who were set apart as Christian.
No bells, smells and stuff.
No proclamations or the rest.
Just you and me serving in the church!
Prophets were - and are - those set apart (saints!) ) already and used for a specific purpose, not, as most non-Christians believe, holy fortune tellers.
Ketty

Re: Prophets and saints

Jim wrote:
Well, in its' New Testament sense, "saints" were those who were set apart as Christian.
No bells, smells and stuff.
No proclamations or the rest.
Just you and me serving in the church!
Prophets were - and are - those set apart (saints!) ) already and used for a specific purpose, not, as most non-Christians believe, holy fortune tellers.


Derek

Prophet

The work of a Hebrew prophet was to act as God’s messenger and make known God’s will.

Saint

The word saint is a translation of a Greek word also rendered “holy,” the fundamental idea being that of consecration or separation for a sacred purpose; but since what was set apart for God must be without blemish, the word came to mean “free from blemish,” whether physical or moral. In the New Testament the saints are all those who by baptism have entered into the Christian covenant (see Acts 9:13, 32, 41; Rom. 1:7; 1 Cor. 1:2; Philip. 1:1; 1 Pet. 1:14–15).
cyberman

Floo wrote:
None because neither exist in reality, imo!


Really? You think that all of the prophets and all of the saints are entirely fictitious? Even the ones that there are photographs of?

Your paranoia is quite extraordinary, sometimes!
Lexilogio

So a saint has to be perfect?

Does a prophet have to be perfect?
Jim

Who says a saint has to be perfect?
We're only human!
cyberman

Lexilogio wrote:
So a saint has to be perfect?



Certainly not. Many saints were very flawed people. Look at the 12, for a start: bumbling around like the keystone cops, misunderstanding everything, arguing with each other, succumbing to their own character flaws left right and centre.
Lexilogio

So perfection isn't a requirement for either?
cyberman

Lexilogio wrote:
So perfection isn't a requirement for either?

No
Shaker

cyberman wrote:
Floo wrote:
None because neither exist in reality, imo!


Really? You think that all of the prophets and all of the saints are entirely fictitious? Even the ones that there are photographs of?

Your paranoia is quite extraordinary, sometimes!

No paranoia. While some of the individuals alluded to may well have existed as historical personages (and others didn't), I assume that Floo meant that what didn't exist was their status as prophets and saints as designated thus by various denominations of Christianit, since from the point of view of an agnostic (as Floo regards and labels herself) there is no such thing as a prophet or a saint in the religious sense.

Really, this deliberate misunderstanding of simply-made points for rhetorical and tendentious effect is a tedious and timewasting affair.
Derek

Lexilogio wrote:
So perfection isn't a requirement for either?


i do not think so. A Prophet is a Saint. Surely a Prophet is only a Prophet when he Prophecies. He is a saint at any other time. A saint must strive to be perfect 24/7.
Ketty

cyberman wrote:
Lexilogio wrote:
So perfection isn't a requirement for either?

No


Agreed.
Jim

A prophet, as shown in the Scripture, is given to speaking truth, not falsehood.
Such truth can itself be confirmed in the same, existing scripture.

In other words, no prophet would speak or write anything which was not in accord with scripture.
Ketty

Jim wrote:
A prophet, as shown in the Scripture, is given to speaking truth, not falsehood.
Such truth can itself be confirmed in the same, existing scripture.

In other words, no prophet would speak or write anything which was not in accord with scripture.


Again, agreed.
cyberman

Shaker wrote:
cyberman wrote:
Floo wrote:
None because neither exist in reality, imo!


Really? You think that all of the prophets and all of the saints are entirely fictitious? Even the ones that there are photographs of?

Your paranoia is quite extraordinary, sometimes!

No paranoia. While some of the individuals alluded to may well have existed as historical personages (and others didn't), I assume that Floo meant that what didn't exist was their status as prophets and saints as designated thus by various denominations of Christianit, since from the point of view of an agnostic (as Floo regards and labels herself) there is no such thing as a prophet or a saint in the religious sense.

Really, this deliberate misunderstanding of simply-made points for rhetorical and tendentious effect is a tedious and timewasting affair.


(if you can hear me all the way up on that high horse...)

This really is nonsense. Are you saying that, as a non-Sikh, your position is that the Gurus did not exist? Valiant attempt, Shaker, but utter shite in the end.

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