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Sermons and homilies

Christian sermons and homilies (past and present)

A thread for copies or links of sermons we have heard or read. New, ancient, videos, mp3s, texts -- if you think it is useful then please post it here!

Contents (with links):

Fasting abundantly
St Gregory Palamas' sermon on Holy Icons
A sermon for the Sunday of Gregory Palamas
Rejoicing In the Destruction of the Ungodly
St Ephraim the Syrian on the Cross
Overcoming the vice of anger
Sermon on the elder brother of the prodigal son
Sermon for the Sunday of St Mary of Egypt
On Palm Sunday by St Andrew of Crete
The Paschal Sermon
Sermon for Sunday of the Paralyzed Man(Video)
On Being True to Ourselves by Met. Anthony Bloom




It might be a better idea if any discussion about a particular sermon posted here is started in a new thread, so as not to derail (unless you only wish to post agreement, which hopefully shouldn't cause many tangents!). A link to the new thread could be posted here.
JMC

For Lent....

Fasting Abundantly (for Lent)
by Fr. Vasile Catalin Tudora

In the Western churches, the idea many have about fasting is strongly linked with renunciation, with giving-up, with sacrificing something for God. In the Orthodox Church however, fasting achieves a much richer meaning. Fasting is not only about giving up, but it is actually more about gaining, about being able to reach things that are possible only through this spiritual exercise.

In a legalistic understanding of salvation some believe that Christ has come on earth to fulfill a duty, to repair an offense that man has brought unto God. His sacrifice on the Cross satisfies this need and mankind enters again in God's favors. From this perspective fasting is a similar symbol: a personal sacrifice that one makes to step back into God's grace. This can be anything ranging from giving up chocolate to abstaining from Facebook for the Lenten period. But such frivolous renunciations really don't cut it into the genuine meaning of fasting. God doesn't need any of these sacrifices as He does not need the whole burnt offering of the Old Testament anymore. It is us, not God, who need the fasting rule.

Reducing the fasting to a symbol, to a mere idea of fasting, the entire exercise of Great Lent is perverted. Fasting becomes a theoretical notion that can be achieved through an act that involves little or no effort because, at the end, is not the fasting that is important, but only the idea of fasting. This intellectual reduction is yet another symptom of our brokenness, of the ontological separation between our mind and our heart. Seduced by dry rationality the mind construes an entire new reality that we confuse many times with the true authenticity of existence that only a heart open to God can perceive.

In this world, made-up by our minds saturated with secular values, the importance of the complete involvement of the body in fasting is forgotten, because for the mind a symbol is enough. But man does not exist in a fantasy of the mind, but lives in the real world, as a true person, body and souls, both physical and spiritual.

Christ saves the world not by spreading the idea of salvation, but coming down Himself, taking body from the Virgin Mary and physically becoming one of us; not a ghost, not a spirit, but flesh and bones. His death on the cross was not a symbol, but a painful reality. His resurrection was not a simple story full of morality, but the defining moment of a new stage in human existence. By reducing everything to symbols we end up living in our minds and missing the genuine existence.

In the Orthodox understanding man is utterly aware that living in a physical world, with a corrupted and fallen nature, the body is subject to passions that affect the state of his entire being. Controlling the body through fasting directs the entire human being towards God, because "a body subdued by fasting brings the human spirit freedom, strength, sobriety, purity, and keen discernment." (St. Ignatiy Brianchaninov). In a paradoxical way by starving the body the entire human being is nourished spiritually and is able to "ascend on high, to contemplate lofty things and to put the heavenly higher than the pleasant and pleasurable things of life." (St. John Chrysostom).

We don't want however to reduce the experience of fasting to a mere vegetarian diet. The Great Lent is a period of total transformation, of metanoia, as the Greek fathers call it. The faster should strive to change his or hers entire way of life, redirecting priorities, seeking new avenues to God, striving for perfection in Christ. As St. Basil the Great advises "True fasting lies in rejecting evil, holding one's tongue, suppressing one's hatred, and banishing one's lust, evil words, lying, and betrayal of vows."

From this perspective we can truly say, paraphrasing St. John Chrysostom, that fasting of the body is a feast for the soul. A soul liberated from the weight of an overfed body and nourished with the manna of virtues can reach into the spiritual heights, free of the passions that drag it to the ground. Such a soul can pray more, can forgive more, can love more. Fasting is not a simple renunciation but an exercise of love, as salvation is not an honor satisfying sacrifice but the greatest act of love ever seen.
JMC

St. Gregory Palamas On Holy Icons
(The second Sunday of Lent is dedicated to St Gregory Palamas)



'You shall not make an image of anything in the heavens above, or in the earth below, or in the sea' (cf. Ex 20.4), in such a way that you worship these things and glorify them as gods. For all are the creations of the one God, created by Him in the Holy Spirit through His Son and Logos, who as Logos of God in these latter times took flesh from a virgin's womb, appeared on earth and associated with men, and who for the salvation of men suffered, died and rose again, ascended with His body into the heavens, and 'sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on High' (Heb 1.3), and who will come again with His body to judge the living and the dead. Out of love for Him you should make, therefore, an icon of Him who became man for our sakes, and through His icon you should bring Him to mind and worship Him, elevating your intellect through it to the venerable body of the Saviour, that is set on the right hand of the Father in heaven.

In like manner you should also make icons of the saints and venerate them, not as gods --for this is forbidden-- but because of the attachment, inner affection and sense of surpassing honour that you feel for the saints when by means of their icons the intellect is raised up to them. It was in this spirit that Moses made icons of the Cherubim within the Holy of Holies (cf. Ex 25.18). The Holy of Holies itself was an image of things supercelestial (cf. Ex 25.40; Heb 8.5), while the Holy Place was an image of the entire world.

Moses called these things holy, not glorifying what is created, but through it glorifying God the Creator of the world. You must not, then, deify the icons of Christ and of the saints, but through them you should venerate Him who originally created us in His own image, and who subsequently consented in His ineffable compassion to assume the human image and to be circumscribed by it.

You should venerate not only the icon of Christ, but also the similitude of His cross. For the cross is Christ's great sign and trophy of victory over the devil and all his hostile hosts; for this reason they tremble and flee when they see the figuration of the cross. This figure, even prior to the crucifixion, was greatly glorified by the prophets and wrought great wonders; and when He who was hung upon it, our Lord Jesus Christ, comes again to judge the living and the dead, this His great and terrible sign will precede Him, full of power and glory (cf. Mt 24.30). So glorify the cross now, so that you may boldly look upon it then and be glorified with it. And you should venerate icons of the saints, for the saints have been crucified with the Lord; and you should make the sign of the cross upon your person before doing so, bringing to mind their communion in the sufferings of Christ. In the same way you should venerate their holy shrines and any relic of their bones; for God's grace is not sundered from these things, even as the divinity was not sundered from Christ's venerable body at the time of His life-quickening death. By doing this and by glorifying those who glorified God --for through their actions they showed themselves to be perfect in their love for God-- you too will be glorified together with them by God, and with David you will chant: 'I have held Thy friends in high honour, O Lord' (Ps 139.17 LXX).
bnabernard

Is a new thread needed to query a quoted psalm?




http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bi...p;c=139&t=LXX#s=t_conc_617017

Root Form (Hebrew)
How
h4100  
mah
precious
h3365  
yaqar
also are Your thoughts
h7454  
רֵעַ  rea`
to me, O God!
h410  
אֵל 'el
How
h4100  
מָה mah
vast
h6105  
עָצַם `atsam
is the sum
h7218  
רֹאשׁ ro'sh
of them!

Root Form (Hebrew)

Or is a new thread neede so as not to disrupt any misleading teachings?

bernard (hug)
JMC

The Psalm is from the LXX, as stated, a translation of the Hebrew scriptures that significantly predates the Masoretic texts. The Masoretic hebrew texts, which you have quoted, post-date Christ and were very likely "revised" by the Jewish (i.e. those who had rejected Jesus as the Messiah) scholars, which is where divergences from the LXX occur.

I must admit I didn't know this was one of the differences in the texts, but it is. Here is the correct translation of the Psalm from LXX quoted:

http://ba.21.free.fr/septuaginta/psaumes/psaumes_138.html

The link you gave also contains the same verse in Greek. It is translated correctly in the sermon. The issue of whether the LXX has more authority (being quoted by the Evangelists, St Paul, and the early Church) than the Masoretic OT texts really is an issue for another thread, as it isn't even related to any of the sermons so far posted. You are very welcome to start another thread and even post a link to it here (as I said in the OP), so carrying on any discussion here is really not justifiable despite your snide remarks impugning my motives. Respectfully, I ask that you do not carry on the discussion in this thread.
JamesJah

Re: Sermons and homilies

JMC wrote:
Christian sermons and homilies (past and present)




A thread for copies or links of sermons we have heard or read. New, ancient, videos, mp3s, texts -- if you think it is useful then please post it here!

It might be a better idea if any discussion about a particular sermon posted here is started in a new thread, so as not to derail (unless you only wish to post agreement, which hopefully shouldn't cause many tangents!). A link to the new thread could be posted here.[/b]


When did The Almighty say man can make up his own form of worship?

When has mans ideas of worship been superior to that wihch Jesus instructed?


Matthew 23:5-12
All the works they do, they do to be seen by men, for they broaden the scripture-containing cases that they wear as safeguards and lengthen the fringes of their garments. They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues and the greetings in the marketplaces and to be called Rabbi by men.

But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers. Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One. Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.

But the greatest one among you must be your minister.  Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
JMC

Re: Sermons and homilies

JamesJah wrote:

When did The Almighty say man can make up his own form of worship?


Hello James, I don't think we've introduced ourselves. Hence, you've just done the forum equivalent of shouting at someone in the street when you've just seen them doing something you don't approve of.

Given that, is it worth us getting to know each other?
JamesJah

Re: Sermons and homilies

JMC wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

When did The Almighty say man can make up his own form of worship?


Hello James, I don't think we've introduced ourselves. Hence, you've just done the forum equivalent of shouting at someone in the street when you've just seen them doing something you don't approve of.

Given that, is it worth us getting to know each other?


I do not shout at people in the street but I do sometimes point to the Almighty God's view on matters and let them do with the information what ever it is they choose.

I do not know how the world should be ruled but I do know a man that does.


Psalm 110:1, 2
.Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.  Jehovah will extend the sceptre of your power out of Zion, saying: “Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.

Daniel 2:44
In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever,

Psalm 110:3
Your people will offer themselves willingly on the day of your military force. In splendid holiness, from the womb of the dawn, You have your company of young men just like dewdrops.

You see I am just a servant, like so many others, my work is just to point people to the source of the truth, the rest is up to them.
JMC

Re: Sermons and homilies

JamesJah wrote:

You see I am just a servant, like so many others, my work is just to point people to the source of the truth, the rest is up to them.


Well, if you're satisfied you've done as much as you can (and fwiw I am satisfied you can do no more) then our brief conversation is done. I'll say goodbye, even though we never said hello.
bnabernard

JMC wrote:
The Psalm is from the LXX, as stated, a translation of the Hebrew scriptures that significantly predates the Masoretic texts. The Masoretic hebrew texts, which you have quoted, post-date Christ and were very likely "revised" by the Jewish (i.e. those who had rejected Jesus as the Messiah) scholars, which is where divergences from the LXX occur.

I must admit I didn't know this was one of the differences in the texts, but it is. Here is the correct translation of the Psalm from LXX quoted:


http://ba.21.free.fr/septuaginta/psaumes/psaumes_138.html

The link you gave also contains the same verse in Greek. It is translated correctly in the sermon. The issue of whether the LXX has more authority (being quoted by the Evangelists, St Paul, and the early Church) than the Masoretic OT texts really is an issue for another thread, as it isn't even related to any of the sermons so far posted. You are very welcome to start another thread and even post a link to it here (as I said in the OP), so carrying on any discussion here is really not justifiable despite your snide remarks impugning my motives. Respectfully, I ask that you do not carry on the discussion in this thread.


One does have to uestion the use of the word snide remark, which would seem to either impune some fom of egotistcal superior attitude when the same attitdeis used against the masoretic text by greek teaching ie lxx

Given that you admit to not having knowledge of a the quoted text then I  would say I was, rather than being snide were in fact being genuine and enquireing.

Is it snide to then present a question relating to the objectives of the request for an unhampered thread, do I see a man beating another and continue on my way without question.

Your post's so far appear to be pointing to 'being able to bring the holy of holies into everyday life, into the market square', on that post alone I believe a pause should be made and discussion instigated, after all the threat of upsetting Jesus works both ways.

How many new threads are you intending to instigate?

bernard (hug)
JamesJah

Re: Sermons and homilies

JMC wrote:
JamesJah wrote:

You see I am just a servant, like so many others, my work is just to point people to the source of the truth, the rest is up to them.


Well, if you're satisfied you've done as much as you can (and fwiw I am satisfied you can do no more) then our brief conversation is done. I'll say goodbye, even though we never said hello.


C\n I just say you have not spoken a truer word?

Where does one flee to that is the question the flood is once again to be world wide and there is no place safe or is there?
LeClerc

Morning

The Holy Assembly and The Everlasting Covenant

JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning

The Holy Assembly and The Everlasting Covenant

Trust you to invent something obscure.

Flee to the mountain, which mountain?

How many Christians can do this>>\/


Psalm 61:3, 4
For you are my refuge, A strong tower that protects me from the enemy.  4 I will be a guest in your tent forever; I will take refuge in the shelter of your wings.

Proverbs 18:10
The name of Jehovah is a strong tower. Into it the righteous one runs and receives protection.

Zephaniah 3:9
For then I will change the language of the peoples to a pure language, So that all of them may call on the name of Jehovah, To serve him shoulder to shoulder.’
bnabernard

Zephaniah 3:9
For then I will change the language of the peoples to a pure language, So that all of them may call on the name of Jehovah, To serve him shoulder to shoulder.’

I expect many thought they had cracked it with the greek, what a mistake that was if they did.

bernard (hug)
LeClerc

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning

The Holy Assembly and The Everlasting Covenant

Trust you to invent something obscure.



If you check back I believe it was Bernie who posted the link first.

Regards

LeClerc
JMC


A SERMON FOR THE SUNDAY OF ST GREGORY PALAMAS (16th March 2014)

by Father Andrew Phillips

In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.


Why do we fast? Why do we make sacrifices? Why do we stand at long services? Why do we pray? To those of us who are beginning to doubt and waver after only two weeks of the Fast, the Church brings us an answer today. This answer is in the person of St Gregory Palamas, the fourteenth-century Archbishop of Salonica in Greece to whom this Sunday is dedicated.

To many of you Salonica may seem far away. Not to me, because exactly twenty-five years ago I lived and worked there for a year. And as regards St Gregory Palamas, I saw two things.

Firstly, I noticed how the feast of St Gregory is still celebrated there today, with his relics taken through the city in procession, escorted by sailors and policemen. We may wonder why his earthly remains are still held in such honour.

Secondly, I went to visit a place up in the hills behind the town of Kavalla near Salonica. There you can still see a cave in the rocks - this was the home of Gregory Palamas before he was consecrated Archbishop. It was in that cave that he spent years in fasting and prayer. And there, not caring for his body, and instead cultivating and caring for the purity of his heart and therefore his mind, he received gifts of the Holy Spirit, he came to know God.

Now at the same time as St Gregory was living in extreme fasting and prayer, there lived a clever philosopher, also a Greek, a Hellenist, whose name was Barlaam. He said that, logically, it was impossible to know God, indeed God was by definition unknowable and inaccessible to the human mind. On hearing and studying Barlaam's philosophy. St Gregory recognized in the so-called logic of Barlaam a blasphemy, a heresy. He recognized that Barlaam lacked purity of heart and therefore mind and that his logic was the logic of the godless who only trusted in his own mental powers and imagination, the mental powers of the created, not of the Creator.

For if Barlaam were right, then all of Christ's work for us, from His Conception and Birth as a man, His Circumcision, His Presentation in the Temple, His Baptism, His Crucifixion, His Resurrection, His Ascension, to His Sending of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, are futile, they are all in vain. Unlike Barlaam, St Gregory said that since Christ the Creator had become man and part of creation, He had made human nature potentially holy - like His own human nature. By sending down the Holy Spirit, He had given us all access in our human nature to holiness. Just as the Sun is known to us through its energies of heat and light, so God can be known to us through the uncreated energies of the Holy Spirit.

Quite simply, if we reject the teaching of St Gregory on this, we reject all the work of Christ and therefore also reject the coming of the Holy Spirit. Barlaam's philosophy would mean that we cannot know God, that there is no purpose in fasting and prayer. In fact, Barlaam's philosophy was a denial of God and therefore the foundation-stone of the last century's atheism and disbelief with all its massacres and genocides with their hundreds of millions of victims. Indeed, Barlaam's philosophy is the basis of all those recent ideas which said that there is no God, that man stands alone and lonely at the head of the Universe, for there is nothing greater than man - that he quite magically created himself in an empty and godless Universe.

St Gregory asserted the opposite to Barlaam. He affirmed that man carries in himself two tendencies, one for good, the other for evil. However, the tendency for good can only be developed in man through acquiring the grace of God, the divine energy sent to us from God, accessible insofar as our hearts and minds are pure enough to receive that grace. But this grace which enlightens and brightens us can only come to us if we repent, if we accept the process of fasting and prayer, tears and self-sacrifice.

It is vital for us to understand that the thoughts of St Gregory, expressed in detail in his writings, are not just thoughts, not just another philosophy like Barlaam's, but they were based on his experience, they were divinely inspired. He was not talking about an idea, but about the reality which he had experienced as an ascetic in that cave which you can still visit today. And the fact is that it is the wonder-working relics of St Gregory which go in procession through the streets of Salonica today, not the graceless dust of the bones of Barlaam.

This is the reality of the Church, this is the grace of the energies of God, this is holiness, the experience and knowledge of God, not imagined, not the fruit of fantasy and the studies of the mind, but the reality of God known to and experienced by those who are pure in heart and mind. For as it is written: 'Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God'. And this precisely is the aim of all true Christian hearts and minds.

Holy Father Gregory, pray to God for us!


Amen.


Source.
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning

The Holy Assembly and The Everlasting Covenant

Trust you to invent something obscure.



If you check back I believe it was Bernie who posted the link first.

Regards

LeClerc


He is even better at it than you is he not?
JamesJah

Is this translated correctly?


Romans 10:13-15
For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”  However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him?

How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach?

How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Is this translated correctly?


Romans 10:13-15
For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”  However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him?

How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach?

How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”


Lets go back a little shall we.

Romans 10
9 that if you acknowledge publicly with your mouth that Yeshua is Lord and trust in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be delivered. 10 For with the heart one goes on trusting and thus continues toward righteousness, while with the mouth one keeps on making public acknowledgement and thus continues toward deliverance. 11 For the passage quoted says that everyone who rests his trust on him will not be humiliated.

Who is the him

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Is this translated correctly?


Romans 10:13-15
For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”  However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him?

How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach?

How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”


Lets go back a little shall we.

Romans 10
9 that if you acknowledge publicly with your mouth that Yeshua is Lord and trust in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be delivered. 10 For with the heart one goes on trusting and thus continues toward righteousness, while with the mouth one keeps on making public acknowledgement and thus continues toward deliverance. 11 For the passage quoted says that everyone who rests his trust on him will not be humiliated.

Who is the him

Regards

LeClerc


His son first bourn of creation.

Do you know his new name?

Revelation 3:12, 13
The one that conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out [from it] anymore, and

I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God, and that new name of mine.

Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Is this translated correctly?


Romans 10:13-15
For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”  However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him?

How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach?

How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”


Lets go back a little shall we.

Romans 10
9 that if you acknowledge publicly with your mouth that Yeshua is Lord and trust in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be delivered. 10 For with the heart one goes on trusting and thus continues toward righteousness, while with the mouth one keeps on making public acknowledgement and thus continues toward deliverance. 11 For the passage quoted says that everyone who rests his trust on him will not be humiliated.

Who is the him

Regards

LeClerc


His son first bourn of creation.


Right James, now in the following verse

Romans 10
12  For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek. There is the same Lord over all, who is rich toward all those calling on him.

Who is the him ?

Regards

LeClerc
JMC

St Ephraim the Syrian on the Cross
(sermon for the Sunday of Holy Cross - third Sunday of Lent)




“The Cross abolished idolatrous adulation, enlightened the whole universe, gathered all the nations into one Church and united them with love. The Cross is the resurrection of the dead. The Cross is the hope of Christians. The Cross is the staff for the lame. The Cross is comfort for the poor. The Cross is the deposing of the proud. The Cross is the hope of those who despair. The Cross is food for the sailors. The Cross is haven for the bestormed. The Cross is the father for orphans. The Cross is comfort for those who mourn. The Cross is the protector of children. The Cross is the glory of men. The Cross is the crown of elders. The Cross is light for those sitting in darkness. The Cross is freedom for slaves, wisdom for the ignorant. The Cross is the preaching of prophets, the fellow-traveler of apostles. The Cross is the chastity of maidens, the joy of priests. The Cross is the foundation of the Church, the establishment of the universe. The Cross is the destruction of idolatrous temples, temptation for Jews. The Cross is the cleansing of the lepers, the rehabilitation of the enfeebled. The Cross is bread for the hungry, a fountain for the thirsty. The Cross is the good hope of monks, clothing for the naked.

“By this holy armor of the Cross Christ the Lord has terminated the omniconsuming bowels of Hades and blocked the many snares in the mouth of the devil. Having seen the Cross, death trembled and released everyone whom she possessed with the first creature. Armed with the Cross, the God-bearing apostles subdued all the power of the enemy and caught all peoples in their dragnets, and gathered them for the worship of the One Crucified. Clothed in the Cross as in armor, the martyrs of Christ trampled all the plans of torturers and preached with plainness the Divine Cross-bearer. Having taken up the Cross for the sake of Christ, those who renounced everything in the world settled in deserts and on mountains, in caves and became the fasters of the earth.

“But what language is worthy to praise the Cross, this invincible wall of the Orthodox, this victorious armor of the Heavenly King?! By the cross the Almighty One bestowed unspeakable blessings on humanity!”

“Therefore on the forehead, and on the eyes, and on the mouth, and on the breasts let us place the life-giving Cross. Let us arm them with the invincible armor of Christians, with this hope of the faithful, with this gentle light. Let us open paradise with this armor, with this support of the Orthodox faith, with this saving praise of the Church. Neither in one hour, nor in one instant, let us not forget the Cross, nor let us begin to do anything without it. But let us sleep, let us arise, let us work, let us eat, let us drink, let us go on our way, let us sail on the seas, let us go across the river, let us adorn all our members with the life-giving Cross. And let us not be frightened ‘by the terror of the night, nor by the arrow that flies by day, nor by anything roaming in darkness, nor by any calamity, nor any noonday demon’ (Ps. 90:5). If, O Christian, you will always take up the Cross of Christ on yourself as a help, then ‘evil shall not come towards you, nor any scourge come near your habitation’: for the opposition power seeing it trembles and leaves.”
JamesJah

[quote="JMC:112232"]St Ephraim the Syrian on the Cross
(sermon for the Sunday of Holy Cross - third Sunday of Lent)




(Micah 5:10-15
.In that day, declares Jehovah, I will do away with your horses from your midst and destroy your chariots. I will destroy the cities of your land And tear down all your fortified places.

I will put an end to the sorcery you practice, And no one practicing magic will remain among you.

I will destroy your graven images and your pillars from your midst, And you will no longer bow down to the work of your hands.

 I will uproot your sacred poles from your midst And annihilate your cities. In anger and wrath I will execute vengeance On the nations that have not obeyed
JamesJah

What wheat Christians had been told to remember.

But only the chosen ones should be actual partakers.

1 Corinthians 11:24-27
This means my body, which is in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.”

 He did the same with the cup also, after they had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”

For whenever you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he comes.

Therefore, whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord..


John 3:14, 15
 .just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so the Son of man must be lifted up5 so that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.








JMC

Overcoming the Vice of Anger
Sermon of His Holiness, Patriarch Kyrill of Moscow and All Russia, Delivered during Lent, 2010, at the Convent of the Nativity of the Mother of God in Moscow


In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

Sin, which is rooted in the human soul, manifests itself in the form of various vices. There are among them some that are particularly dangerous, both for the person who bears them and for the people around him. Anger and spite are among these dangerous vices. John Climacus, considering them, said that they are a spiritual disease. Just as there are many causes of a physical illness, so too are there many causes of a spiritual illness.

Anger is a form of expressing one’s disagreement with the words and deeds of those around one. This means of expressing disagreement is accompanied by an inadequate reaction, when one raises one’s voice, uses spiteful words, and insults others. Frequently anger is the result of a mental disorder, the result of an illness of the nervous system. In this case it is the object of medical care; what interests us is anger as a manifestation of one’s inner life, as a sort of spiritual illness. What lies at the foundation of this illness? What are the causes and roots of this disease?  

As with the majority of vices, anger grows out of human pride. A proud man, who places himself in the very center of life, develops a sense of self-confidence. Self-confidence asserts itself more and more in one’s proud attitude to the surrounding world. And if someone says or does something to the proud man that he does not agree with, he takes this as a challenge to his sense of “I,” which is the most important and central thing in the world. Hence arises this dreadful emotion, accompanied by raised voices, angry words, and terrible facial expression. With the force of his words and facial expression, this person attempts to strike a blow against those who disagree with him.

There is something in this vice that is torturous for the person himself, for an angry person does not have friends. Anger destroys relationships with one’s neighbors and relatives, creating an extremely difficult atmosphere. How many families are destroyed only because someone in the family is unable to control his anger, making life unbearable! Saint Tikhon of Zadonsk, considering the vice of anger, said: “How awful an angry man looks – but what must be going on in his soul!” Indeed, at the moment of anger, the human soul suffers; anger truly is a manifestation of a disease of the soul.

Anger has very dangerous consequences in human life. John Climacus, considering this topic, says: “Nothing prevents the Holy Spirit from entering us as much as anger.” If person does not fight with anger, if he is not aware of the danger of his spiritual disease, then anger turns into spite.

Spite is a distortion of human nature itself. Spite is the kind of illness that leads to an irreversible process in the spiritual life resulting in the destruction of the human personality. Apostle Paul expressed it remarkably: Let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Neither give place to the devil (Ephesians 4:26-27). In other words, if one is angry longer than one day, then his anger turns into spite; and where there is spite [in Russian: zloba] there is the devil, because the devil is evil [in Russian: zlo]. And if one stays angry for a long time, then an irreversible process begins in his spiritual life. A spiteful man can be intemperate when speaking, because he lives in spite. It is not possible to yell and be abusive at all times, but it is possible to keep this spite in one’s heart throughout the entirety of one’s life. In order to avoid such a terrible contortion of one’s spiritual life, it is necessary to battle against anger, not allowing anger to turn into spite.

What means does the Church offer us for overcoming the vice of anger? The first and foremost means is silence. Set, O Lord, a watch before my mouth (Psalm 140:3) – we must remember these remarkable words of the psalm each time we suddenly feel the urge to vent our anger against our interlocutor or against someone with whom we work or live. The ability to keep thy tongue from evil means to do good (Psalm 33:13, 15).    

The ability to keep silent is very highly valued in human society. Not without reason is it said that silence is golden, but the word is silver. A silent person is able to control his thoughts, words, and actions. It is for this reason that silence was (and still is) so highly appreciated in the ascetic practice of the Church. This does not mean that everyone must stop talking and become mute. This is impossible, since the majority of people are engaged in social life and in a variety of relationships with others. But the value of silence is in the fact that, through it, we can guard ourselves from anger and spite.

Of course, the greatest means of overcoming this vice is prayer. When we feel that anger is stirring in our hearts, we have to stop, be silent, and turn to God in prayer. This is very difficult to do. But if during the great and saving Holy Forty Days we begin the struggle of battling against anger and irritability, we will make a very important step towards the Lord. May the Lord help us during the great and saving Holy Forty Days to overcome the vices that characterize us all, and to make at least small, but real, steps toward the Risen Savior! Amen.
bnabernard

Being slow to anger I expect does mean we should not let anger fester, however one does tend to wonder if it was man that created anger, would God experience anger, exercise his wrath if it were not for man.
However he does have a way with words as do a lot of people, spin doctor I think is the common term.
Patience, or festering,, fine line.

bernard (hug)
JamesJah

bnabernard wrote:
Being slow to anger I expect does mean we should not let anger fester, however one does tend to wonder if it was man that created anger, would God experience anger, exercise his wrath if it were not for man.
However he does have a way with words as do a lot of people, spin doctor I think is the common term.
Patience, or festering,, fine line.

bernard (hug)


Morning Bernie up early aren't we?

How does the long suffering fit in?
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
What wheat Christians had been told to remember.

But only the chosen ones should be actual partakers.

1 Corinthians 11:24-27
This means my body, which is in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.”    


WARNING: "Keep doing" - deliberate mistranslation alert.

 He did the same with the cup also, after they had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means  


Warning: "means" - deliberate mistranslation alert.

the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”  

WARNING: "virtue", "Keep doing" - deliberate mistranslation alert.



For whenever you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he comes.

Therefore, whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord..


John 3:14, 15
 .just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so the Son of man must be lifted up5 so that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.








LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
What wheat Christians had been told to remember.

But only the chosen ones should be actual partakers.

1 Corinthians 11:24-27
This means my body, which is in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.”

 He did the same with the cup also, after they had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”

For whenever you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he comes.

Therefore, whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord..


John 3:14, 15
 .just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so the Son of man must be lifted up5 so that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.



1 Corinthians 10 NWT
21  You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons.

The NWT now confirms that Jesus (Y'shua )is indeed Jehovah (YHWH)

Oops James

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
What wheat Christians had been told to remember.

But only the chosen ones should be actual partakers.

1 Corinthians 11:24-27
This means my body, which is in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.”

 He did the same with the cup also, after they had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”

For whenever you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he comes.

Therefore, whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord..


John 3:14, 15
 .just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so the Son of man must be lifted up5 so that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.



1 Corinthians 10 NWT
21  You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons.

The NWT now confirms that Jesus (Y'shua )is indeed Jehovah (YHWH)

Oops James

Regards

LeClerc


Who make up Christ's bogy?

Who make up the bride?

Who make up the Heavenly mount Zion?





Click to see full size image
JMC

Sermon on the Elder Brother of the Prodigal
by Archbishop Chrysostomos

One of the more beautiful parables of the New Testament is that of the Prodigal Son,which incorporates into what is a story in miniature of the fall and redemption of man — his alienation from the Heavenly Father and his return to the Father’s “house,” after a life of dissolution and the squandering of his spiritual inheritance — an image of love that cannot be read without bringing spiritual tears to the innermost recesses of the soul. There is no Christian who does not feel the munificence of God in the simple retelling of the story of the son who returns to his Father in disgrace, yet is received with honor, affection,and extravagant love and is recompensed for betrayal and perfidy with all of the signs of honor that his father can bestow upon him. This enduring parable is fragrant with the Christian message of redemption,redolent with the aroma of love,and spiced by the pungence of forgiveness and Grace: the Father restoring “to the Prodigal the tokens of his proper glory..., mystically...[rendering him]...glad on high” (from the stichera of Saturday Vespers to “Lord I have cried,” Sunday of the Prodigal Son). As St. Augustine, in his Confessions, movingly expresses it, we behold in this story the forgiveness of “a kind God,” Who gave much to the Prodigal Son before his fall, yet Who “was kinder still when he returned destitute” (Book I,§18). A kind father — as the Divine Chrysostomos summarizes the tale — gives a wayward son “greater honors” than those shown to an older brother, who had remained with the father and “who had not fallen,” thereby underscoring the “greatness of repentance” (“Letter to Theodore,”I,§7).

But Scripture, palimpsest that it is, is sometimes more profound in what it suggests at a deeper, arcane level than in what it directly says, averring dimensions of truth written upon truth, light leading to unfathomable brilliance. Like Scripture itself, which the presumptuous man interprets to his destruction (II Peter 3:16), the Parable of the Prodigal Son contains lessons which lie in the sagacity of God and yield only to humble study. If we examine the parable carefully, we find that it contains, aside from the exhortative lesson of the repentant and restored Prodigal Son, a caveat against the anger and jealousy of the elder brother, who, seeing lavish fatherly mercy bestowed on his repentant sibling, imagines his virtue to be slighted.


The well-known Church writer Tertullian saw in the image of the elder brother the Jews who envied the Christians for their “reconciliation” with “God the Father,” thus winning for the New Israel the promise originally made to the “Chosen People” (“De pudicitia” [On Modesty], chap. 8). Similarly, St. Ambrose of Milan, in his Exposition on the Holy Gospel According to St. Luke, which contains this parable, speaks of the envy of the elder brother for the wayward son, also drawing a parallel between the former and the Jews (Book VII, §§239-243) — a parallel, as an aside, that is not, as many wrongly imagine, an anti-Semitic slur. Following a slightly different interpretive tradition, the Blessed Bishop Nikolai of Ochrid, though he identifies the Prodigal Son with the worldly man and the older brother with the spiritual man, also asserts that the latter serves as a lesson to us not to be “puffed up in our own righteousness and, in our pride, scorn repentant sinners” (Homilies [Birmingham, 1996], Homily 10, “Sunday of the Prodigal Son”).

In yet another Patristic approach to the imagery in the story of the return of the Prodigal Son,

"St. Cyril of Alexandria reminds us that Christ delivered this parable ‘immediately after the Pharisees and scribes murmured against Him, saying, This man receiveth sinners and eateth with them.’ Seeking to enlighten His detractors,the Lord spoke of a younger, prodigal son, who represented the sinners and publicans, and of an elder, faithful son, who represented the scribes and Pharisees. This, says St. Cyril, is the key to understanding the Prodigal son. ... [T]he younger son, like the publican, through humility and repentance washed away his vices, while the elder son, like the Pharisee, through pride and judgmentalism sullied his virtues." (See Hierodeacon [now Hieromonk] Gregory, Orthodox Tradition, XII, 2, p. 74.)

This is precisely the imagery employed by St. Gregory Palamas, as well, who mentions the elder son’s anger, suggests that this anger manifests itself because the son is “ignorant of the riches of God’s goodness,” and points out that, just as the father receives his wayward son, so he “pleads with the elder one, teaching him what is fitting” (Homily 3, “The Parable of the Lord on The Prodigal Who Was Saved,” §§22-23).

Blessed Theophylact, Archbishop of Ochrid and Bulgaria, says of the elder son — whom he also identifies with the Pharisees — , that he does not understand the “outpouring of God’s compassion.” Theophylact does not, like some of the earlier Patristic commentators, directly accuse the faithful son of envy, but of a spiritual blindness and of “grumbling,” in the manner of the Pharisees, at seeing repentant sinners so freely and lovingly received. Acknowledging the variety of interpretative images attributed to the two sons, he asserts that the younger son represents the sinner who turns from iniquity and the older one the righteous who stand sorely “vexed” before the ineffable “judgments of God.” He argues that the parable was meant for the Pharisees and the self-righteous, to warn them against their weaknesses. In the gentle quality of his rebuke, he stands at one end of the spectrum of Patristic admonitions against the elder sibling in the parable of the Prodigal Son. And it is in his balmy counsel, perhaps, that he is able to bring together the extremes in imagery employed by the Fathers in drawing our attention to the dual message of the story: that of the glad reception of the repentant sinner in the abode of the Father — whatever the actual reason for his final return — and that of the spiritual harm that can befall those who fall to envy, to anger, or to resentment of the loving action of the Father. In every image that the Church Fathers invoke, it is in the love of the father that all is resolved, as he embraces his wayward younger son and soothes the vexation of his older son. Here the extremes in images meet and are fused in the forgiveness of love.

Let us, as Great Lent approaches this year, look anew at this parable and draw hope from the wayward son. At the same time, let us examine ourselves carefully in the light of the weaknesses of the elder son, lest we succumb to the wily temptations of self-righteousness, which can lead to passions and to spiritual waywardness produced by pride, if not by envy and undiscovered hidden darkness.
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
What wheat Christians had been told to remember.

But only the chosen ones should be actual partakers.

1 Corinthians 11:24-27
This means my body, which is in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.”

 He did the same with the cup also, after they had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”

For whenever you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he comes.

Therefore, whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord..


John 3:14, 15
 .just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so the Son of man must be lifted up5 so that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.



1 Corinthians 10 NWT
21  You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons.

The NWT now confirms that Jesus (Y'shua )is indeed Jehovah (YHWH)

Oops James

Regards

LeClerc
bnabernard

As was Israel.

bernard (hug)
LeClerc

Morning Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
As was Israel.

bernard (hug)


1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

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Who is the Lord in the above ?

Regards

LeClerc
bnabernard

I'm sure your search for the scarlet pimpernal is very entertaining for you, however, if you keep looking under stones all you will find is worms.
But whats that you say, seek and you will find, or is it seek and it will find you.

Bernard (hug)
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
As was Israel.

bernard (hug)


1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

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LeClerc


Who is King of the Almighty God's Kingdom over the earth?

Who does that King hand the Kingdom over too in a thousand years time?

Why does he do that?

Are these Questions the type of questions a Trinitarian can give an honest answer to?

are they even familiar with the scripture answer?
LeClerc

Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
As was Israel.

bernard (hug)


1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

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Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
As was Israel.

bernard (hug)


1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

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Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the saviour of the world?

Who sacrificed his only begotten son?

Which is which that is the question most people seem to hate.
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
As was Israel.

bernard (hug)


1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

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Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the saviour of the world?

Who sacrificed his only begotten son?

Which is which that is the question most people seem to hate.


The Logos who became flesh, who laid down his own life and took it up again.

Now James

1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-22.htm

Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
As was Israel.

bernard (hug)


1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-22.htm

Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the saviour of the world?

Who sacrificed his only begotten son?

Which is which that is the question most people seem to hate.


The Logos who became flesh, who laid down his own life and took it up again.

Now James

1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-22.htm

Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc


It is not possible for you to answer the questions I have posted and be able to fit it into a trinity, now is it Leclerc so why the waffle?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
As was Israel.

bernard (hug)


1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

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Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the saviour of the world?

Who sacrificed his only begotten son?

Which is which that is the question most people seem to hate.


The Logos who became flesh, who laid down his own life and took it up again.

Now James

1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-22.htm

Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc


It is not possible for you to answer the questions I have posted and be able to fit it into a trinity, now is it Leclerc so why the waffle?


Did I ever mention that word, no.

Now James

1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

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LeClerc
JMC

Sermon for the Sunday of St. Mary of Egypt
Metropolitan Anthony of Sourozh.

(click here for the life of St Mary)

In the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Week after week we feel that we are coming closer and closer to the glorious Resurrection of Christ. And it seems to us that we are moving fast, from Sunday to Sunday as it were, to the day when all horrors, all terrors, will have disappeared.

And yet so easily do we forget that before we reach the day of the Resurrection we must, together with Christ, together with His apostles, tread the road of the Crucifixion. 'So we are ascending to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered into the hands of men, and they shall crucify Him, and the third day He will rise’. All we notice is that He will rise. But do we ever think of the way in which the disciples went to Jerusalem, knowing that the Crucifixion was at hand? They were moving in fear. They were not yet mature enough to be those who would give their lives for the message to be spread. They were moving in fear. When Christ told them that they would go now to Jerusalem, return to the city which had then renounced Christ, put Him into danger of His life, they said to Him, 'Let us not go.' And only one disciple, Thomas, said, 'No. Let us go with Him, and die with Him.'

This disciple is the one whom, foolishly I believe, we call the Doubter: the one who was not prepared to give his trust to God, his faith, his life, his blood, without certainty. But his heart was unreservedly given to Christ. How wonderful to be such a man! But the other disciples would not desert Christ. They walked towards Jerusalem.

And we have today another example of one who went through a tragedy before they met Christ. It is Mary of Egypt. She was a sinner. She was a harlot. She was unfaithful to God in her soul and in her body. She had no reverence for this body which God had created and this soul. And yet she was tragically confronted with the fact that there was no way for her into the temple of God unless she rejected evil and chose purity, repentance, newness of life.

Let us reflect on the disciples who almost begged Christ not to return to Jerusalem, because Jerusalem was a city where all prophets had died; and they did not want Christ to die, and they were afraid. Let us ask ourselves how much we resemble them. And let us ask ourselves freely today how do we resemble, or not, Mary of Egypt - Mary who had lived her life according to her own ways and desires, followed all temptations of her body and soul; and one day realised that as she was, she could not enter the temple of God.

So easily do we enter the divine temple, forgetting so easily that the church into which we come is a small part of a world that has chosen to be alien to God, that has rejected God, lost interest in Him; and that the few believers have created for God a place of refuge - yes, the church is the fullness of Heaven, and at the same time a tragic place of refuge, the only place where God has a right to be because He is wanted. And when we come here, we enter into the divine realm. We should come into it with a sense of awe, not just walk into it as into a space but walk into it as a space which is already the divine Kingdom.

If we were in that mood we would, when we come to the doors of the church, be, however little, like Mary of Egypt. We would stop and say, 'How can I come in?' And if we did that with our whole heart, broken-heartedly, with a sense of horror of the fact that we are so distant from God, so alien, so unfaithful to Him, then the doors would open and we would see that we are not simply in a big space surrounded with walls but we are in a space which is God's Heaven come to earth.

Let us therefore learn from this experience what it means to go step by step towards the Resurrection, because in order to reach the Resurrection we must go through Calvary, we must go through the tragedy of Holy Week and make it our own, partaking with Christ and His disciples and the crowds around in the horror, the terror of it; and also experience it as a scorching fire that will burn in us all that is unworthy of God and make us clean. And perhaps one day, when the fire will have burnt everything which is not worthy of God, each of us may become an image of the burning bush, aflame with divine fire and not consumed, because only that which could survive the fire of God would have remained is us. Amen.
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
As was Israel.

bernard (hug)


1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-22.htm

Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the saviour of the world?

Who sacrificed his only begotten son?

Which is which that is the question most people seem to hate.


The Logos who became flesh, who laid down his own life and took it up again.

Now James

1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-22.htm

Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc


It is not possible for you to answer the questions I have posted and be able to fit it into a trinity, now is it Leclerc so why the waffle?


Did I ever mention that word, no.

Now James

1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-22.htm

Who is the Lord in the above ?

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LeClerc


Do you have a problem with your lords as  well as your gods?

How about your Kings and priests?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
As was Israel.

bernard (hug)


1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-22.htm

Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc


Who is the saviour of the world?

Who sacrificed his only begotten son?

Which is which that is the question most people seem to hate.


The Logos who became flesh, who laid down his own life and took it up again.

Now James

1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-22.htm

Who is the Lord in the above ?

No answer then from Bernie or James just more evasion.

Regards

LeClerc


It is not possible for you to answer the questions I have posted and be able to fit it into a trinity, now is it Leclerc so why the waffle?


Did I ever mention that word, no.

Now James

1 Corinthians 10 Interlinear

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-21.htm

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/10-22.htm

Who is the Lord in the above ?

Regards

LeClerc


Do you have a problem with your lords as  well as your gods?

How about your Kings and priests?


No James, we the remnant Israel have One God, and One Lord, unlike you who have many gods and many lords.

We also have One King who comes in the order of Melchizedek, His name, Yah is Salvation.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Unlike the nominal church we have one Almighty God who's name is Jehovah whom we render sacred service to by means of the lamb who has purchased us for his father who in tern has given him a name above all other names.

Where is Jehovah's mountain?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Unlike the nominal church we have one Almighty God who's name is Jehovah whom we render sacred service to by means of the lamb who has purchased us for his father who in tern has given him a name above all other names.



And the name which is above every name is ??

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/2-9.htm

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Unlike the nominal church we have one Almighty God who's name is Jehovah whom we render sacred service to by means of the lamb who has purchased us for his father who in tern has given him a name above all other names.



And the name which is above every name is ??

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/2-9.htm

Regards

LeClerc


http://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/2-10.htm
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Unlike the nominal church we have one Almighty God who's name is Jehovah whom we render sacred service to by means of the lamb who has purchased us for his father who in tern has given him a name above all other names.



And the name which is above every name is ??

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/2-9.htm

Regards

LeClerc


http://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/2-10.htm


So James according to your teaching you are bowing the knee to a god other than YHWH.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Unlike the nominal church we have one Almighty God who's name is Jehovah whom we render sacred service to by means of the lamb who has purchased us for his father who in tern has given him a name above all other names.



And the name which is above every name is ??

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/2-9.htm

Regards

LeClerc


http://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/2-10.htm


So James according to your teaching you are bowing the knee to a god other than YHWH.

Regards

LeClerc


What are you doing????
LeClerc

Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc


How are they going to be removed?
LeClerc

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc


How are they going to be removed?


Isaiah 1
24 Therefore the Lord says,
YHWH of hosts, the Mighty One of Israel,
“Ah, I will rid Myself of My adversaries,
And take vengeance on My enemies.


Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc


How are they going to be removed?


Isaiah 1
24 Therefore the Lord says,
YHWH of hosts, the Mighty One of Israel,
“Ah, I will rid Myself of My adversaries,
And take vengeance on My enemies.


Regards

LeClerc


Are you looking forward to that??
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc


How are they going to be removed?


Isaiah 1
24 Therefore the Lord says,
YHWH of hosts, the Mighty One of Israel,
“Ah, I will rid Myself of My adversaries,
And take vengeance on My enemies.


Regards

LeClerc


Are you looking forward to that??


Romans 5
9 Therefore, since we have now come to be considered righteous by means of his bloody sacrificial death, how much more will we be delivered through him from the anger of God’s judgment! 10 For if we were reconciled with God through his Son’s death when we were enemies, how much more will we be delivered by his life, now that we are reconciled! 11 And not only will we be delivered in the future, but we are boasting about God right now, because he has acted through our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, through whom we have already received that reconciliation.

Is the Messiah Y'shua Ben Yosef your Lord and Master James ?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Which religion is righteous?


JamesJah

Revelation 22:12-15
.Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is.

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority [to go] to the trees of life may be theirs and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates.

 Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and the fornicators and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone liking and carrying on a lie.’
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

Morning Leclerc are you still having a problem with who is Christ's bride?

Jude 1
1 Jude, a slave of Jesus Christ, but a brother of James, to the called ones who are loved by God the Father and

preserved for Jesus Christ:
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc


So you admit to not knowing who is what or whom?

How many Lord God's are there?

And how Many gods are there that are called god?

How many gods are mighty gods and how many Almighty God?
LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc


So you admit to not knowing who is what or whom?

How many Lord God's are there?

And how Many gods are there that are called god?

How many gods are mighty gods and how many Almighty God?


James you have just torn up The Tanakh and The Messianic Writings.

Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc


So you admit to not knowing who is what or whom?

How many Lord God's are there?

And how Many gods are there that are called god?

How many gods are mighty gods and how many Almighty God?


James you have just torn up The Tanakh and The Messianic Writings.

Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Regards

LeClerc


So you can not answer that is because like many you are glued to an understanding of scripture that is based on a superstitious fear that was cooked up by the hell fire raisers of the past.

Which God provided the ransom at great cost to himself.

Which one was the ransom?

Which one is mighty and which one almighty?

How many spirits does the Almighty have?
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

Is Y'shua Ben Yosef the true Lord.

Yes or no

Regards

LeClerc


Would you mind putting that in Chines I might be able to point you to a scripture?


Exodus 23
17 以色列所有的男子都要在这三个节期上来朝见主 耶和华。

Regards

LeClerc


Thank you it is much plainer in Chinese at least I can see which lord you mean.


Exodus 23
17 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Lord, YHWH.

To us there is One Lord, Y'shua the Messiah.

How many times James are you going to deny The Tanakh and Messianic Writings ?

Regards

LeClerc


There is one lord master over all, and one lord who is obedient to my lord and there are those that lord it over others now which is which?

Or should I say who are who????


Jude 1
For certain individuals, the ones written about long ago as being meant for this condemnation, have wormed their way in — ungodly people who pervert God’s grace into a license for debauchery and disown our only Master and Lord, Yeshua the Messiah.

Regards

LeClerc


So you admit to not knowing who is what or whom?

How many Lord God's are there?

And how Many gods are there that are called god?

How many gods are mighty gods and how many Almighty God?


James you have just torn up The Tanakh and The Messianic Writings.

Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

One can be a saviour by providing a saviour. is bible terminology beyond your comprehension Leclerc?
JamesJah

One can be a saviour by providing a saviour. is bible terminology beyond your comprehension Leclerc?
LeClerc

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
One can be a saviour by providing a saviour. is bible terminology beyond your comprehension Leclerc?


Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Now James in plain English when YHWH says

There is no other God but me; what does He mean ?

LeClerc

Regards
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
One can be a saviour by providing a saviour. is bible terminology beyond your comprehension Leclerc?


Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Now James in plain English when YHWH says

There is no other God but me; what does He mean ?

LeClerc

Regards


He obviously does not mean that there are no others called god now does he?

You are not a child are you Leclerc you do have some knowledge of scripture so why do you find simple things so difficult to understand.
LeClerc

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
One can be a saviour by providing a saviour. is bible terminology beyond your comprehension Leclerc?


Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Now James in plain English when YHWH says

There is no other God but me; what does He mean ?

LeClerc

Regards


He obviously does not mean that there are no others called god now does he?

You are not a child are you Leclerc you do have some knowledge of scripture so why do you find simple things so difficult to understand.


Well James you cannot get much simpler than this.

Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Now James in plain English when YHWH says

There is no other God but me; what does He mean ?

LeClerc

Regards
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
One can be a saviour by providing a saviour. is bible terminology beyond your comprehension Leclerc?


Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Now James in plain English when YHWH says

There is no other God but me; what does He mean ?

LeClerc

Regards


He obviously does not mean that there are no others called god now does he?

You are not a child are you Leclerc you do have some knowledge of scripture so why do you find simple things so difficult to understand.


Well James you cannot get much simpler than this.

Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Now James in plain English when YHWH says

There is no other God but me; what does He mean ?

LeClerc

Regards


He means what he said so what is your problem?
LeClerc

hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
One can be a saviour by providing a saviour. is bible terminology beyond your comprehension Leclerc?


Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Now James in plain English when YHWH says

There is no other God but me; what does He mean ?

LeClerc

Regards


He obviously does not mean that there are no others called god now does he?

You are not a child are you Leclerc you do have some knowledge of scripture so why do you find simple things so difficult to understand.


Well James you cannot get much simpler than this.

Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Now James in plain English when YHWH says

There is no other God but me; what does He mean ?

LeClerc

Regards


He means what he said so what is your problem?


It's not my problem its your problem.

According to your understanding why do you follow and bow and the knee to two Gods?

Regards

LeClerc
JamesJah

LeClerc wrote:
hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
One can be a saviour by providing a saviour. is bible terminology beyond your comprehension Leclerc?


Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Now James in plain English when YHWH says

There is no other God but me; what does He mean ?

LeClerc

Regards


He obviously does not mean that there are no others called god now does he?

You are not a child are you Leclerc you do have some knowledge of scripture so why do you find simple things so difficult to understand.


Well James you cannot get much simpler than this.

Isaiah 45 NWT
21  Make your report, present your case. Let them consult together in unity.Who foretold this long ago And declared it from times past? Is it not I, Jehovah? There is no other God but me; A righteous God and a Savior, there is none besides me,

Now James in plain English when YHWH says

There is no other God but me; what does He mean ?

LeClerc

Regards


He means what he said so what is your problem?


It's not my problem its your problem.

According to your understanding why do you follow and bow and the knee to two Gods?

Regards

LeClerc


I only worship the one Jesus told me to worship how many do you worship?

Matthew 6:9, 10
You must pray, then, this way: ‘

Our Father in the heavens,

let your name be sanctified.

 Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.
JMC

Sermon for Palm Sunday
by St Andrew of Crete

Our father among the saints Andrew of Crete, was Archbishop of Crete at the end of the 7th century and the beginning of the 8th. He was a true luminary of the Church, a great hierarch—a theologian, teacher and hymnographer, best known for writing the Great Canon.



Let us go together to meet Christ on the Mount of Olives. Today he returns from Bethany and proceeds of his own free will toward his holy and blessed passion, to consummate the mystery of our salvation. He who came down from heaven to raise us from the depths of sin, to raise us with himself, we are told in Scripture, "above every sovereignty, authority and power, and every other name that can be named," now comes of his own free will to make his journey to Jerusalem. He comes without pomp or ostentation. As the psalmist says:

He will not dispute or raise his voice to make it heard in the streets. He will be meek and humble, and he will make his entry in simplicity.

Let us run to accompany him as he hastens toward his passion, and imitate those who met him then, not by covering his path with garments, olive branches or palms, but by doing all we can to prostrate ourselves before him by being humble and by trying to live as he would wish. Then we shall be able to receive the Word at his coming, and God, whom no limits can contain, will be within us.

In his humility Christ entered the dark regions of our fallen world and he is glad that he became so humble for our sake, glad that he came and lived among us and shared in our nature in order to raise us up again to himself. And even though we are told that he has now ascended above the highest heavens – the proof, surely, of his power and godhead – his love for man will never rest until he has raised our earthbound nature from glory to glory, and made it one with his own in heaven.

So let us spread before his feet, not garments or soulless olive branches, which delight the eye for a few hours and then wither, but ourselves, clothed in his grace, or rather, clothed completely in him.

We who have been baptized into Christ must ourselves be the garments that we spread before him. Now that the crimson stains of our sins have been washed away in the saving waters of baptism and we have become white as pure wool, let us present the conqueror of death, not with mere branches of palms but with the real rewards of his victory.

Let our souls take the place of the welcoming branches as we join today in the children’s holy song:

  Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Blessed is the king of Israel!
JamesJah

Who invented palm Sunday?

Who invented saints days?

Why did Christians stop honouring God's name in the same superstitious way the Jews did?

Have we discovered who Babylon the Great is yet?





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JMC

JamesJah wrote:
Who invented palm Sunday?


As it remembers Christ's final entry into Jerusalem, ultimately it was God Who "invented" the day and the event it commemorates.

JamesJah wrote:
Who invented saints days?


As saint's days are usually celebrated on the date that the saint in question died, ultimately it would be God again, Who ordains such things.

Quote:
Why did Christians stop honouring God's name in the same superstitious way the Jews did?


That is begging the question: Christians did not stop honouring God's name "in the same superstitious way the Jews did" - what Jesus Christ did was reveal a far more intimate and personal name for Him: Father, even our Father. You will barely find an instance in the Old Testament where God is described as "our Father". Yet how many times does Christ refer to Him as His Father and our Father?

I don,t mind saying/typing the English transliteration "Jehovah" or "Yahweh", so there's no superstition here. Maybe there is some superstition on the part of people who believe we need to use these names, though.


Quote:
Have we discovered who Babylon the Great is yet?


Well, "we" have not shared what "our" answers to this question are, nor whether they are the same. This is mainly because I am not really interested in your interpretation, and you are not actually interested in mine and that your question is purely used for rhetoric (or as a springboard for you to advertise the JW's answer).

Any or all of these questions could be expanded into other threads, as I requested in the OP. I even said there that any threads inspired by this one could have links posted here for anyone who was interested. Regardless of what you believe and the truth of it, your singularly obstinate refusal to do this simply shows a lack of respect that makes it incredibly difficult to muster up any desire to care what you're saying. I'm not arguing that you must post in such-and-such a way, but pointing out that, unless you do try being a bit more controlled in your posting, you won't be getting any more responses from me. You may count that as a blessing!
JamesJah

JMC wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Who invented palm Sunday?


As it remembers Christ's final entry into Jerusalem, ultimately it was God Who "invented" the day and the event it commemorates.

JamesJah wrote:
Who invented saints days?


As saint's days are usually celebrated on the date that the saint in question died, ultimately it would be God again, Who ordains such things.

Quote:
Why did Christians stop honouring God's name in the same superstitious way the Jews did?


That is begging the question: Christians did not stop honouring God's name "in the same superstitious way the Jews did" - what Jesus Christ did was reveal a far more intimate and personal name for Him: Father, even our Father. You will barely find an instance in the Old Testament where God is described as "our Father". Yet how many times does Christ refer to Him as His Father and our Father?

I don,t mind saying/typing the English transliteration "Jehovah" or "Yahweh", so there's no superstition here. Maybe there is some superstition on the part of people who believe we need to use these names, though.


Quote:
Have we discovered who Babylon the Great is yet?


Well, "we" have not shared what "our" answers to this question are, nor whether they are the same. This is mainly because I am not really interested in your interpretation, and you are not actually interested in mine and that your question is purely used for rhetoric (or as a springboard for you to advertise the JW's answer).

Any or all of these questions could be expanded into other threads, as I requested in the OP. I even said there that any threads inspired by this one could have links posted here for anyone who was interested. Regardless of what you believe and the truth of it, your singularly obstinate refusal to do this simply shows a lack of respect that makes it incredibly difficult to muster up any desire to care what you're saying. I'm not arguing that you must post in such-and-such a way, but pointing out that, unless you do try being a bit more controlled in your posting, you won't be getting any more responses from me. You may count that as a blessing!



The reason for asking was to ascertain why so many types of worship of God has been established which he has not specifically asked for nor requested of man.

Worship of Jehovah was an illustration of Gods requirement for the Hebrews under Moses which illustrated what  he expected of those who serve him.

Even though the Jew does not recognise their savour they also do not perform the worship which pictured the ransom so why is that if there messiah has not come?

Why did Christians invent a religion and religious practices that God has not decreed?

So how should Christians worship God in spirit and truth?

John 17:20, 21
I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you


John 4:23, 24
Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.
JMC

The last part of my post was perhaps more important with regards to this discussion continuing on this thread. The last two sentences in particular will explain the non-existent nature of my replies to you on this thread from now on. Maybe we will talk elsewhere.
JamesJah

When are the saints alive in heaven?



Revelation 6:9-11
When he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those slaughtered because of the word of God and because of the witness they had given. They shouted with a loud voice, saying:

“Until when, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, are you refraining from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” And a white robe was given to each of them,

and they were told to rest a little while longer, until the number was filled of their fellow slaves and their brothers who were about to be killed as they had been.
JMC

The Paschal Sermon
by St John Chrysostom

If any man be devout and love God, let him enjoy this fair and radiant triumphal feast. If any man be a wise servant, let him rejoicing enter into the joy of his Lord. If any have labored long in fasting, let him now receive his recompense. If any have wrought from the first hour, let him today receive his just reward. If any have come at the third hour, let him with thankfulness keep the feast. If any have arrived at the sixth hour, let him have no misgivings; because he shall in nowise be deprived thereof. If any have delayed until the ninth hour, let him draw near, fearing nothing. If any have tarried even until the eleventh hour, let him, also, be not alarmed at his tardiness; for the Lord, who is jealous of his honor, will accept the last even as the first; he gives rest unto him who comes at the eleventh hour, even as unto him who has wrought from the first hour.

And he shows mercy upon the last, and cares for the first; and to the one he gives, and upon the other he bestows gifts. And he both accepts the deeds, and welcomes the intention, and honors the acts and praises the offering. Wherefore, enter you all into the joy of your Lord; and receive your reward, both the first, and likewise the second. You rich and poor together, hold high festival. You sober and you heedless, honor the day. Rejoice today, both you who have fasted and you who have disregarded the fast. The table is full-laden; feast ye all sumptuously. The calf is fatted; let no one go hungry away.

Enjoy ye all the feast of faith: Receive ye all the riches of loving-kindness. let no one bewail his poverty, for the universal kingdom has been revealed. Let no one weep for his iniquities, for pardon has shown forth from the grave. Let no one fear death, for the Savior’s death has set us free. He that was held prisoner of it has annihilated it. By descending into Hell, He made Hell captive. He embittered it when it tasted of His flesh. And Isaiah, foretelling this, did cry: Hell, said he, was embittered, when it encountered Thee in the lower regions. It was embittered, for it was abolished. It was embittered, for it was mocked. It was embittered, for it was slain. It was embittered, for it was overthrown. It was embittered, for it was fettered in chains. It took a body, and met God face to face. It took earth, and encountered Heaven. It took that which was seen, and fell upon the unseen.

O Death, where is your sting?
O Hell, where is your victory?
Christ is risen, and you are overthrown.
Christ is risen, and the demons are fallen.
Christ is risen, and the angels rejoice.
Christ is risen, and life reigns.
Christ is risen, and not one dead remains in the grave.

For Christ, being risen from the dead, is become the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. To Him be glory and dominion unto ages of ages.

Amen.


Link


Christ is Risen from the dead,
Trampling down death by death,
And to those in the tombs
He has given life!
JamesJah

JamesJah wrote:
When are the saints alive in heaven?



Revelation 6:9-11
When he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those slaughtered because of the word of God and because of the witness they had given. They shouted with a loud voice, saying:

“Until when, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, are you refraining from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” And a white robe was given to each of them,

and they were told to rest a little while longer, until the number was filled of their fellow slaves and their brothers who were about to be killed as they had been.


Where was Jesus when he sent his angel to John?

When are the dead to rise?

When is the marriage of the lamb to take place?
JMC



Sermon for Sunday of the Paralyzed Man
(John 5:1-15 and Acts 9:32-42)

by Fr Philip Hall
JamesJah

A sermon rom the Logos

Matthew 5:1-20
When he saw the crowds, he went up on the mountain; and after he sat down, his disciples came to him. Then he opened his mouth and began teaching them, saying:

“Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.

Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted.

Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth.

 “Happy are those hungering and thirsting for righteousness, since they will be filled. 7

Happy are the merciful, since they will be shown mercy.

“Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God. 9

Happy are the peacemakers, since they will be called sons of God. 10

Happy are those who have been persecuted for righteousness’ sake, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.

Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake.

Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you.

You are the salt of the earth, but if the salt loses its strength, how will its saltiness be restored? It is no longer usable for anything except to be thrown outside to be trampled on by men.

You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. 15 People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house.

Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens.
JMC

On Being True to Ourselves
Met. Anthony Bloom

Time and time and again I am asked by people: “What is the Will of God for me now, in the nearest future?”  And I always refuse to speak in God’s own Name, because I believe that all I, or any priest, can do is to stand before God in awe, and say, “Lord, Thou art the Truth, Thou art Life, Thou art also the Way:  teach this person, be to this person the Way, enlighten this person with the truth, and bring him to such plenitude of life as no one can either convey or give.”

And yet there are things which can be done. Each of us is a free man of God, as St. Paul said clearly. He says there was a time when we all were slaves of Satan, slaves of our passions, of our fears, slaves of all the things that press on all sides and do not allow us to be true people. In Christ freedom is granted;  not license, but the freedom to be ourselves, the freedom to grow into the fullness of the stature which God has dreamt for us, to grow into fullness that will make us truly living members of the Body of Christ, partakers of the Divine Nature.

On whatever step of our spiritual development we are, the first thing which is required of us is that we should be true to ourselves: not to try to be anyone except the person we are; not to try to mimic any behavior, to force ourselves into any mould in heart, in mind, in will which could be a lie before God, to ourselves, a deception for others. The first rule is to be true to ourselves; and to be true with all the integrity, all the passion, all the joy of which we are capable. And what does this mean?

Apart from what I said a moment ago, it means that we must find who we are not only socially, but at another level. To do this, we can read the Gospel which is an image of what a true human being is. The Gospel is not a book of commandments, of orders, as it were, given by God, “Do this, and you will be right in My sight” — no:  it is a picture of what a real human being thinks, feels, does and is. Let us look into the Gospel as one looks into a mirror, and we will discover that in so many ways we are a distorted image, but that in a few ways perhaps, we are a true human being already, at least potentially. Let us mark those passages of which we can say, like Luke and Cleopas on the way to Emmaus: Does not my heart burn within me when I hear, when I read these words? How beautiful they are! How true! That is life!.  And if you find one passage or another to which you respond in this way, rejoice. At that point God has reached you at the deepest level of your being, revealed to you who you truly are; but at the same time He has revealed to you Who He truly is.  He has shown to you that you and He are in harmony; that if you only become what you already, potentially, truly are, you will become (an image) of God; a true undistorted image; at least in one or two things.

Then there is another move:  if we want to be truly ourselves, we must remember that God does not expect us to be what we are not, but what we are. That we can stand before God, and say to Him, “Lord! I have read this and that in the Gospel; I understand it with my mind; I believe in my heart that it must be true; but it does not set my mind aglow, my heart on fire; it does not stir my will, it does not transform me yet. Accept me as I am! I will change, but for the moment I cannot respond to such a commandment, to such an example.” There is a passage so beautiful, to me, in the writings of St. Mark the Ascetic in which he says, “If God stood before you, and said, Do this, and do that — and your heart could not answer ‘Amen’ — then don’t do it; because God does not need your action: He needs your consent, and harmony between Him and you.”

Let us therefore try when we ask ourselves – “where do I already stand?” – in an attempt to find out what the Will of God is for us, not in the absolute, but now. What can I already now be and do, and do it wholeheartedly with God? — because in the end, the aim of our spiritual life, of our life and our faith in Christ does not consist in being drilled into doing one thing rather than the other; it is to establish between God and us a relationship of true friendship, of a joy of mutual freedom, and within this freedom, within this friendship, in response to God’s love, to God’s respect for us, to the faith He has in us, to the hope He has vested in us, and say “This person has understood that he is not a slave, that he is My friend” — and He is our friend. What a joy! And it is a gift of God, which we can give Him as we received it from Him! Amen.

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