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Jim

Surrendering

"I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. "
(Galatians 2: 20, NIV)

That scripture means a lot to me. I call it my 'life verse'; the verse which spoke to me after I had accepted the Lordship of Christ in my life.
So; if you are a believer, what does "surrendering" mean to you?
Is it giving up freedom to think, or, is it, like me, finding a freedom I'd never dreamt of before?
Honey 56

Hi Jim,
It is  an anazing scripture and deserves full consideration, but just off the top of my head.

It is the freedom to live a life free from guilt, never having to worry whether I am good enough, because I am justified through Christ Jesus and forgiven, we just have to believe in His promises, which is easy, because He is faithful and true and he would never ever shame anyone who puts their trust in Him, and  now, like many others I actually want to live a life  that is pleasing to Him. I suppose that is what He meant when He said that His yoke is easy, if we are yoked unto Jesus He pulls along with us and if we do surrender our lives to Him, He can and will live through us.

Honey  
LeClerc

Re: Surrendering

Hi Jim

Jim wrote:
"I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. "
(Galatians 2: 20, NIV)

That scripture means a lot to me. I call it my 'life verse'; the verse which spoke to me after I had accepted the Lordship of Christ in my life.
So; if you are a believer, what does "surrendering" mean to you?
Is it giving up freedom to think, or, is it, like me, finding a freedom I'd never dreamt of before?


For me personally Jim it means I am now free from the law of sin and death and can now serve My Lord and Savior Messiah Y'eshua in the newness of The Spirit.

Death through the law no longer has a hold over me because I have died to the law of sin and death through Messiah Y'shua and now am betrothed to another.

People may not undestand this but no longer a slave to sin but a slave to righteousness.

Y'shua never abolished the law but having now died with Him the law which demands death for sin no longer has a hold.

"Know you not, brethren, (for I speak to those who know the law) how that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband, so long as he lives ; but if the husband is dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband."

We are immersed into Y'shua's death and this is symbolised through immersion in water into His Name.

The believer's union to Christ, represented under the figure of a marriage covenant, frees him from the condemnatory power of this law. He looks not to it for life; he rests not in it for hope; he renounces it as a saving covenant, and under the influence of another and a higher obligation- his marriage to Christ- he brings forth fruit unto God.

Through life in the Spirit we keep Torah, but not in the flesh since the flesh has been crucified with Messiah and that death brings total freedom from slavery and bondage.

Its difficult to explain until one experiences it.

Blessings

LeClerc
Jim

Yes, Honey.
I think that, next to John 3:16, this is one of the most profound texts in the entire Bible.
( Max Lucado wrote a brilliant book simply entitled 3:16. If you can, try and take a look at it.)
Gal 2:20 is closely related to Romans 6:11;

    "In the same way, count yourself dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus."

Both texts try to encapsulate the total transformation of Christ in us, the hope of glory; a new existance, enhanced by the presence of Christ and the absence of all that held us back from the fullness of knowing Him.
Ketty

Re: Surrendering

Jim wrote:
. . . (Galatians 2: 20, NIV) . . .  or, is it, like me, finding a freedom I'd never dreamt of before?


Aye Jim.  Agreed.  It's for freedom He set us free.  
Jim

Re: Surrendering

Of course, the concept of surrendering to Christ to obtain greater freedom has to be a hard one for those who have not, as yet, done so, to grasp.
We can trot out verses such as
"Those whom the Son sets free are free indeed", or
"You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." and
"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life..." ,
but when we do so, we are doing so from the perspective of those who already experience that freedom.
I can understand, having been there, the perplexity of the atheist when they try to see what the heck we're on about!
LeClerc

Re: Surrendering

Hi Jim

Jim wrote:
Of course, the concept of surrendering to Christ to obtain greater freedom has to be a hard one for those who have not, as yet, done so, to grasp.
We can trot out verses such as
"Those whom the Son sets free are free indeed", or
"You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." and
"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life..." ,
but when we do so, we are doing so from the perspective of those who already experience that freedom.
I can understand, having been there, the perplexity of the atheist when they try to see what the heck we're on about!


Among us you will find the uneducated, craftsman, and old woman, who, if they are unable in words to prove the benefit of our doctrine, yet by their deeds exhibit the benefit arising from their persuasion of the truth.
Athenagoras A plea for the Christians

LeClerc
Jim

Re: Surrendering

Or, as scripture has it;
"He used the weak things of the world to confound the mighty."
Theology books are good, in their place, I suppose.
Reasoned argument is always worthwhile. Yrt I doubt that all the theological language dreamt up by whatever professors and preachers could even come close to the relationship we are meant to have, encapsulated in the one word we're supposed to use of God...
              "Abba."
Lexilogio

Re: Surrendering

Jim wrote:
Or, as scripture has it;
"He used the weak things of the world to confound the mighty."
Theology books are good, in their place, I suppose.
Reasoned argument is always worthwhile. Yrt I doubt that all the theological language dreamt up by whatever professors and preachers could even come close to the relationship we are meant to have, encapsulated in the one word we're supposed to use of God...
              "Abba."


That is why we have theological language - because it is hard to encapsulate the relationship with God.
Ketty

Re: Surrendering

Lexilogio wrote:

That is why we have theological language - because it is hard to encapsulate the relationship with God.


But often, it's that 'special' theological language which creates a barrier.  God's love is simple, but sometimes man's intellect can complicate the uncomplicated.  For example, the ordinary Jo(sephine) the phrase 'breaking bread and sharing wine' has an immediate image, but to them, what on earth is meant by the theological term 'Eucharist'?
Jim

Re: Surrendering

Lexi;
Too often, Christians put a dreamy expression on their faces and start going into 'theology speak'; the more fundamental branches intersperse this with Jacobean English quotes, peppering the mix with occasional 'thees' and thous' to make it sound more 'spiritual'.
In my experience, this is just about the biggest turn off as far as either apologetics or exegesis  (see what I mean) is concerned.
Jesus didn't do it...so why should we complicate things?
I've listened to enough theology lectures to know I want to avoid the lingo like the plague. That's why I try to post in as simple a style as possible. If it does my head in, I can only imagine what it does to non-believers!

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