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Shaker

The incompatibility of Christianity and evolution

The incompatibility of Christianity and evolution.

Nothing particularly new, but well worth hearing again.

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Which core doctrines of Christianity does evolution challenge? Well, basically all of them. The doctrine of original sin is a prime example. If my rudimentary grasp of the science is accurate, then Darwinís theory tells us that because new species only emerge extremely gradually, there really is no 'first' prototype or model of any species at allóno 'first' dog or 'first' giraffe and certainly no 'first' homo sapiens created instantaneously. The transition from predecessor hominid species was almost imperceptible. So, if there was no 'first' human, there was clearly no original couple through whom the contagion of 'sin' could be transmitted to the entire human race. The history of our species does not contain a 'fall' into sin from a mythical, pristine sinless paradise that never existed.
Jim

Re: The incompatibility of Christianity and evolution

Have you been falling asleep looking at the flood thread on R&E?*
Anyway, there is nothing in a non YEC interpretation which clashes with evolution.
Have you ever read McGrath?



*I recommend it: it works for me...sleeping pills? who needs them?
Shaker

Re: The incompatibility of Christianity and evolution

Jim wrote:
Have you been falling asleep looking at the flood thread on R&E?

I don't look at any threads on R&E as I don't visit that particular car crash of a website (and haven't in a great many months), on what appears to be the exceedingly the rare occasions that it's actually live and working. See The Boyg (occasionally although far too frequently a contributor here and a moderator there, or so I gather) for further details. He comes here whenever jakswan's latest hamster has died/elastic band has snapped.
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Anyway, there is nothing in a non YEC interpretation which clashes with evolution.

Yes there is. The article I have briefly quoted explains, in greater detail, why.
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Have you ever read McGrath?

I am deeply ashamed and afraid to say that unfortunately I have had that misfortune, yes, sadly.
The Boyg

Re: The incompatibility of Christianity and evolution

Shaker wrote:
See The Boyg (occasionally although far too frequently a contributor here and a moderator there, or so I gather) for further details. He comes here whenever jakswan's latest hamster has died/elastic band has snapped.


I'm often here when it's not down as well. I don't have to be here very often in order to keep up with the changes though. I would imagine that one visit a week would be sufficient to allow anyone to catch with all the new posts made here since their last visit within a matter of minutes.

No need for you to be all bitter about it though Shakey, some messageboards are vibrant and busy, others are less so.
bnabernard

Evolution; a soup awaiting life
Religion: a soup that already has life.

Whats the difference  

bernard (hug)
Shaker

Re: The incompatibility of Christianity and evolution

The Boyg wrote:
I'm often here when it's not down as well.

Oh.

If you say so.

Just difficult to tell, that's all, in the circumstances.

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No need for you to be all bitter about it though Shakey

Not bitter about anything. Au contraire: I find the ongoing and frequently offgoing tribulations of R&E utterly hilarious.

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some messageboards are vibrant and busy, others are less so.

Indeed. And some don't work at all, and others only occasionally. So, as the late, great Kurt Vonnegut used to say, it goes.
Powwow

Well I have to agree. It does become a graveyard around here a lot. Until I get Shaker frothing at the mouth. I do it out of pity for him you know. lol
cyberman

Re: The incompatibility of Christianity and evolution

Shaker wrote:
The incompatibility of Christianity and evolution.

Nothing particularly new, but well worth hearing again.

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Which core doctrines of Christianity does evolution challenge? Well, basically all of them. The doctrine of original sin is a prime example. If my rudimentary grasp of the science is accurate, then Darwinís theory tells us that because new species only emerge extremely gradually, there really is no 'first' prototype or model of any species at allóno 'first' dog or 'first' giraffe and certainly no 'first' homo sapiens created instantaneously. The transition from predecessor hominid species was almost imperceptible. So, if there was no 'first' human, there was clearly no original couple through whom the contagion of 'sin' could be transmitted to the entire human race. The history of our species does not contain a 'fall' into sin from a mythical, pristine sinless paradise that never existed.


Right - so science is incompatible with the idea that Adam and Eve is a true story.

#noshitsherlock
gone

Not all Christians are Biblical literalists by any means, thank goodness.
cyberman

Floo wrote:
Not all Christians are Biblical literalists by any means, thank goodness.


Indeed, literalists have only ever been a minority within Christianity.
Shaker

Re: The incompatibility of Christianity and evolution

cyberman wrote:
Right - so science is incompatible with the idea that Adam and Eve is a true story.

#noshitsherlock

More than that: it's actually incompatible with the the Christian worldview root and branch - as the linked-to article in the OP makes clear.

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