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trentvoyager

Walk a mile in their shoes.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2...conservative-year-gay?INTCMP=SRCH

Food for thought.
Honey 56

Dear Trent,
Thank you for posting this,
Good for you!
Good for Him,
His book is so going on my Christmas list.

The vast majority of conservative Christians are not hateful bigots at all. It is just a vocal minority that gets noticed and attracts all the attention," he said.

Absolutely.

WWJD ?

Honey
Jim

Re: Walk a mile in their shoes.

Cheers, TV;
I feel a lot closer to many atheists than I do to certain elements of the US bible belt.
I see nothing of Christ in much of what they rant on about.
cyberman

Strikes me as an incredibly difficult thing for him to have done. I may keep my eye open for that book next time I'm pottering in a bookshop.
Powwow

I really have my doubts about this guy. One thing is for sure, he is a master deceiver. Lying to his family and friends, or was he? Lying to the gay community, or was he? So he found the love of Christ while dancing and smoking and drinking in bars, or did he?
And then there is his pretend boyfriend, "a big black, burly Teddy Bear" lol
Interestingly his experience, or is it, of conservative Christianity is not mine. Homosexuality was never a topic in Sunday school. My Sunday school teachers never tried to scare children with images of Sodom and Gemorrah. We were never taught to hate Homosexuals, infact I don't recall homosexuality ever being a topic during Sunday services.
Perhaps if I came from a lib Christian or atheist home I would feel more at ease about this guys story. I know several people who have attended Liberty University and It's nothing like Bob Jones nor the Westboro lot.
Too many ?????? for me to take his story as totally honest. Sorry
trentvoyager

pow wow wrote:
I really have my doubts about this guy. One thing is for sure, he is a master deceiver. Lying to his family and friends, or was he? Lying to the gay community, or was he? So he found the love of Christ while dancing and smoking and drinking in bars, or did he?
And then there is his pretend boyfriend, "a big black, burly Teddy Bear" lol
Interestingly his experience, or is it, of conservative Christianity is not mine. Homosexuality was never a topic in Sunday school. My Sunday school teachers never tried to scare children with images of Sodom and Gemorrah. We were never taught to hate Homosexuals, infact I don't recall homosexuality ever being a topic during Sunday services.
Perhaps if I came from a lib Christian or atheist home I would feel more at ease about this guys story. I know several people who have attended Liberty University and It's nothing like Bob Jones nor the Westboro lot.
Too many ?????? for me to take his story as totally honest. Sorry


I am not sure. It is difficult to tell in these situations.

Certainly if you scroll down to the bottom of the page and read the comments there are lots of doubters expressing exactly your concerns PW. I don't know at this distance removed how one can ever verify this sort of story - but it is interesting whatever the truth behind the story is.
Lexilogio

If one of my children announced they were gay, I don't think it would bother me. I would, however, feel proud that they felt confident enough to tell me.

Were I the parent of this guy, I would understand why he had done it. I would understand the need to make a statement, and feel proud I had raised a child with enough confidence to do that.
IvyOwl

I've got to admit that while I found the story interesting I just felt there were bit's of it that were missing. It could be perfectly genuine but there again ..... It certainly left questions in my mind, the answers to which wouldn't invalidate his findings as such but would leave us a bit more clearer on the 'why he did it'.

I've also got to say that I sometimes wish my lads were gay giving the bitchiness of todays young women . Well actually they probably wish they were too but you can't make yourself what you are not! Which brings us back to the blokey in question mmmmm.

If his writings make more people who were previously prejudiced understand and change their stance then whatever his reasons or however genuine the story is that can't be a bad thing.

IO

PS I'm expecting Trent Voyager to come on telling me that todays young gay men are bitchy too  
Honey 56

Well, my book has arrived today!
The next question is, should I be a really good girl and put it up for Christmas, as I promised myself I would when I ordered it ? (does anyone else treat themselves for Christmas occasionally, or is it just me?)

 Oh dear can I resist  the temptation to dive right in, right now?

Does a broken promise to oneself count?

I've alreadry read the cover and the endorsements!

I'm going to hide it away or maybe wrap it up?  
I don't think I'll last 'til December.

Is anyone else going to read the book?

It looks really good, from the little I have read already, you understand.

When I do get around to reading it, I would love to share thoughts about it with someone else.



Honey
trentvoyager

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PS I'm expecting Trent Voyager to come on telling me that todays young gay men are bitchy too  


Much though I would like to confound your expectations, I find on this particular occassion I cannot.  

I do now find myself in the position where I am quite comfortable uttering the immortal phrase:

"young people today...." and then shaking my head in despair.

I'm not saying its right - but ohhh,  it does make me feel better !
IvyOwl

Quote:
"young people today...." and then shaking my head in despair.


Sigh .... yes I know. How did I get here? I really didn't intend to turn into one of those sort of old people!

Grumpy old lady with a smiley face aka IO

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