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Jim

Weapons of mass renewal?

10 A final word: Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on all of God's armour so that you will be able to stand firm against all strategies of the devil. 12 For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.
13 Therefore, put on every piece of God's armour so you will be able to resist the enemy in the time of evil. Then after the battle you will still be standing firm. 14 Stand your ground, putting on the belt of truth and the body armour of God's righteousness. 15 For shoes, put on the peace that comes from the Good News so that you will be fully prepared. 16 In addition to all of these, hold up the shield of faith to stop the fiery arrows of the devil. 17 Put on salvation as your helmet, and take the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
18 Pray in the Spirit at all times and on every occasion. Stay alert and be persistent in your prayers for all believers everywhere.
(Ephesians 6: 10-18, New Living Translation)

So, How do we use these weapons, as Christians, in the world we live in?
Ketty

Re: Weapons of mass renewal?

Jim wrote:

So, How do we use these weapons, as Christians, in the world we live in?


I would say they are armour for our defence, as discrete from weapons to be used.  Clothed in righteous armour, daily through prayer, we need fear no man, nor the wiles of the ruler of this earth.   The Word of God is our weapon: sharper than any two-edged sword, as is our personal testimony.
LeClerc

Re: Weapons of mass renewal?

Morning Jim

Excellent post.

Jim wrote:
10 A final word: Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on all of God's armour so that you will be able to stand firm against all strategies of the devil. 12 For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.
13 Therefore, put on every piece of God's armour so you will be able to resist the enemy in the time of evil. Then after the battle you will still be standing firm. 14 Stand your ground, putting on the belt of truth and the body armour of God's righteousness. 15 For shoes, put on the peace that comes from the Good News so that you will be fully prepared. 16 In addition to all of these, hold up the shield of faith to stop the fiery arrows of the devil. 17 Put on salvation as your helmet, and take the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
18 Pray in the Spirit at all times and on every occasion. Stay alert and be persistent in your prayers for all believers everywhere.
(Ephesians 6: 10-18, New Living Translation)

So, How do we use these weapons, as Christians, in the world we live in?


What is the first piece of armour we put on ?

Stand your ground, putting on the belt of truth

All our words and all our actions should be grounded in the truth, the moment a lie leaves our lips we have lost the battle.

If we stand on the truth at all times who can oppose us.

And

and the body armour of God's righteousness.

If we try and stand on our own righteousness, making out we are something we are not, we will fail, since we are all sinners but no one can stand against the rightoeusness of God.

We are to put on Messiah, and be clothed in Him against which the enemy has to flee.

Messiah Y'shua is, YHWH our Righteousness.  

LeClerc
Jim

Re: Weapons of mass renewal?

As you know, Ketty, Paul used the analogy of a Roman soldier as his template for those verses. Everyone would have known the devastating potential of a Roman army as it went into attack mode. As he was writing this letter, the Empire had almost reached its' full extent, through the actions of te Roman army.
Paul actually mentions not one, but three, weapons.

1. The Sword of the Spirit.
Not only is God's Holy Spirit our advocate/helper/comforter/counsellor ('parakletos') but our teacher and the source of our power. ( as per John 14 and 15, and Acts 1:8 and 2 ) When we 'spread the word', The Spirit does the convicting.
When we feel out of our depth, The Spirit does the comforting and strengthening.

2. The shield of faith.
Not only was the Roman shield a defencive weapon, as paul describes, but it was also used as a bludgeon, to knock the enemy off balance while the soldier used his sword. So, while deflecting the enemy's attacks, we can also use our faith gained through our relationship with Jesus to knock him for six!

3. Prayer.
Probably the most powerful weapon of both defence and attack in our arsenal. That's why Paul tells us to use it as often as we possibly can.
It helps protect us from the enemy.
It helps us find the people we're meant to share our faith with.
It helps us to strengthen our relationship with Jesus - and therefore strengthen the effectiveness of our 'shield of faith' as a weapon of both defence and attack.
Honey 56

Thank you Jim and LeClerc,
This.....

Stand your ground, putting on the belt of truth
Is an answer to prayer for me.

My Hubby who was a soldier, also points out that the armour, is not only for protection, it also allows for us to stand firm when under attack and to get closer, rather than retreat from the enemy.

Talking of Prayer Jim,
do you remember this one?
I pray this every day.....

Now, Lord.... enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness.
Acts, 4.29.

You are the word of life, Lord Jesus. Help me to speak your words with boldness yet kindness; courage mixed with compassion. speak through me this day.
Amen.


Honey
bnabernard

Quote:
Now, Lord.... enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness.


Is the Torah manifest in you?

bernard (hug)
Ketty

Re: Weapons of mass renewal?

Jim wrote:
. . .
Paul actually mentions not one, but three, weapons.

1. The Sword of the Spirit.

. . . The Spirit does the convicting.

2. The shield of faith.

3. Prayer.

Probably the most powerful weapon of both defence and attack in our arsenal . . .


   

Talking of the Holy Spirit doing the convicting, it both amuses and saddens  me when people rail against other folk when this happens, rather than realising they've to look to their own heart.
Honey 56

More about spiritual warfare....

3For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 4The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.
2 corinthians 2:5
Jim

Exactly.
That's why we try to help those who have been deceived by the "powers and principalities" into believing a false gospel, or in going down paths which might look Christian, but most definately are not.
Ketty

Jim wrote:
Exactly.
That's why we try to help those who have been deceived by the "powers and principalities" into believing a false gospel, or in going down paths which might look Christian, but most definately are not.


Like the Mormons and the JWs  
Jim

You just want to hear from Ralph, don't you?
Ketty

Jim wrote:
You just want to hear from Ralph, don't you?




I'd love to hear from Ralph that he's been convicted by the Holy Spirit and knows Mormonism is in error.  
Jim

I know some of the history of the Church; I know that the Church of Rome had some terible, saddening, sickening things to answer for in pre-Reformation times. But one thing you can say about them; they kept their structure intact - OK, using the wrong methods and probably for the wrong reasons, but they managed it.

    After the reformation, the Protestant churches tended towards schism and doctrinal dispute. For the most part, though, these issues were kept within theological circles, and the vast majority of churches reained true to the core Gospel.

      Lacking a central authority meant that sects and cults which veered away from the gospel sprung up. They tended to be founded by mystics ( neo-Gnostics), or dissillusioned believers who didn't get their own way in the power struggles in the smaller denominations.
Jesus frequently warned us about these charlatans, making it very clear the damage they would do.
Folk like Smith, Russell, Koresh, Jones et al have been responsible for leading so many away from the Gospel, and ruining the lives of both the followers and their families.
I look on these groups with sadness, and with pity - and love, knowing just what - and who - they are missing.
That's why we need to use those spiritual weapons Paul is on about - not only against the atheist, but against the foolish shepherds who have led the flock into dangerous territory.
Ketty



Jim wrote:
. . . Jesus frequently warned us about these charlatans, making it very clear the damage they would do.  Folk like Smith, Russell, Koresh, Jones et al have been responsible for leading so many away from the Gospel, . . .


This is the problem with men looking to man.  
bnabernard

Don't forget Pope Formosa they had to dig him up and excomunicate him.

bernard (hug)
Ketty

bnabernard wrote:
Don't forget Pope Formosa they had to dig him up and excomunicate him.

bernard (hug)


Who is he then?  Poor bloke, couldn't they excommunicate him without digging him up?  Hope it was a dry day.

bnabernard

Ketty wrote:
bnabernard wrote:
Don't forget Pope Formosa they had to dig him up and excomunicate him.

bernard (hug)


Who is he then?  Poor bloke, couldn't they excommunicate him without digging him up?  Hope it was a dry day.



Hi Ketty

Sorry I spelt the name wrong


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Formosus

For your morning entertainment  

bernard (hug)
Honey 56

Jim wrote:
You just want to hear from Ralph, don't you?


We would all love for Ralph to come back again Jim.
But at least when Ralph left here the seeds of the gospel had been planted, he did at least recognise Jesus as his Lord and saviour, I pray now that someone else will water and feed that seed and that God will bring it to harvest.

Honey  
LeClerc

Hi Honey

Honey 56 wrote:
Jim wrote:
You just want to hear from Ralph, don't you?


We would all love for Ralph to come back again Jim.
But at least when Ralph left here the seeds of the gospel had been planted, he did at least recognise Jesus as his Lord and saviour, I pray now that someone else will water and feed that seed and that God will bring it to harvest.

Honey  


Amen sis  

LeClerc
Ketty

Honey 56 wrote:

. . . [Ralph] did at least recognise Jesus as his Lord and saviour,


Did he?  Like jamesjah?

Ketty

bnabernard wrote:


Hi Ketty

Sorry I spelt the name wrong


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Formosus

For your morning entertainment  

bernard (hug)


  I've still never heard of him.  

I missed the morning entertainment Bernie, so I'll have an afternoon nice cup of tea and educate myself.
Honey 56

Ketty wrote:
Honey 56 wrote:

. . . [Ralph] did at least recognise Jesus as his Lord and saviour,


Did he?  Like jamesjah?



Well,  he did tell us all so Ketty, in his posts on this forum.

But only God knows the heart of a person.

Honey
bnabernard

The question arrises as to whether Ralph was looking for Yeshua or what he gave to man, as a man searching one can find evidences of pieces but not the whole, perhaps Ralph is continueing with his search while pausing where he feels he has found the most, after all to tell him there is a skeleton in the cupboard while concealing ones own cupboard gives restraint to the ear of the one searching,

bernard (hug)
Ketty

bnabernard wrote:
The question arrises as to whether Ralph was looking for Yeshua or what he gave to man, as a man searching one can find evidences of pieces but not the whole, perhaps Ralph is continueing with his search while pausing where he feels he has found the most, after all to tell him there is a skeleton in the cupboard while concealing ones own cupboard gives restraint to the ear of the one searching,

bernard (hug)


Wise words Bernie.

I get worried when I agree with you.    
Honey 56

bnabernard wrote:
The question arrises as to whether Ralph was looking for Yeshua or what he gave to man, as a man searching one can find evidences of pieces but not the whole, perhaps Ralph is continueing with his search while pausing where he feels he has found the most, after all to tell him there is a skeleton in the cupboard while concealing ones own cupboard gives restraint to the ear of the one searching,

bernard (hug)


Do you know Ralph Bernard?

Maybe it is not wise to second guess why Ralph felt the need to move on from this forum.

Ralph has a good heart and he was sincerely seeking Christ Jesus. According to Ralphs own testimony he did just that  and I for one rejoice because of this.

Honey
bnabernard

Ketty wrote:
bnabernard wrote:
The question arrises as to whether Ralph was looking for Yeshua or what he gave to man, as a man searching one can find evidences of pieces but not the whole, perhaps Ralph is continueing with his search while pausing where he feels he has found the most, after all to tell him there is a skeleton in the cupboard while concealing ones own cupboard gives restraint to the ear of the one searching,

bernard (hug)


Wise words Bernie.

I get worried when I agree with you.    


Don't worry Kett it will clear up so long as you keep taking the midication      

bernie  
Powwow

If one really wants to find Ralph,  start checking some of the conspiracy chat forums. He is a believer in the Jews controlling the world and the US government was behind 9/11 ect.
Ralph will show up again. He pops in to get the mormon thing going again and then when it gets too hot he's off to the next. I think he has a series of sites on his milk run.
I do believe Ralph made a decision for Christ, the mormon Christ. By his own posts Ralph can't be trusted. Lot's of fibbing surrounding his mormon non-conversion ect.
Ketty

pow wow wrote:
If one really wants to find Ralph,  . . .


Pow wow I believe Honey is a member on Lynne's forum where Ralph is a Mod.  He once gave us the link in that looooonng thread.  
Ketty

bnabernard wrote:


Don't worry Kett it will clear up so long as you keep taking the midication


Mr cheeky.  
Powwow

Hi Ketty,
Sass invited me to her site soon after I joined this one. She wanted to provide a place for Christians to go to when things get difficult on other sites. Problem was I can't see sass as a Christian because she denies who Jesus is and checking out her site, well, a graveyard was what it reminded me of.
Honey 56

pow wow wrote:
Hi Ketty,
Sass invited me to her site soon after I joined this one. She wanted to provide a place for Christians to go to when things get difficult on other sites. Problem was I can't see sass as a Christian because she denies who Jesus is and checking out her site, well, a graveyard was what it reminded me of.


Sass very kindly did the same for me PowWow,
As Ketty points out I did join, but I have only visited a couple of times and haven't posted there at all.

I only have time to use one forum at a time, with work and family I spend far too much time one this one as it is,   but it beats borig old housework hands down

Honey   .

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