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bnabernard

what is a 'proper childhood

Heard this again from a woman whos grandfather worked in the mills as a child, ''they never had a proper childhood'' so what is a proper childhood?

bernard (hug)
The Boyg

I would guess that, in this context, what she meant was one where they are free to play and learn and be children rather than having to be small workers or, as happens sadly all too often in our world, small soldiers.
Shaker

Freedom is the most important aspect, in my opinion - I mean the sort of freedom I had as a kid, not just the freedom to play out which we're told is becoming more and more curtailed for a number of reasons (some real, some utterly specious) but the freedom to make my own friends, to get wet, get mucky, even hurt myself. I went out wandering for miles, climbed trees and fell out of them, touched electrified cattle fences, fell in streams, cut myself, burnt myself and all the rest of it. Over-protectiveness is about the most understandable trait there is in a parent but in the long term it does a kid no favours. And doesn't help the parents either, for that matter.
Jim

Doesn't it depend on the society or culture in which a person was raised?
One culture's opinion of what the definition is would vary with that of another, possibly competing culture.
bnabernard

If for the moment I linger on shakers post I find myself hearing, thogh not from shaker I must add, a voice saying ''I want to give my children all the things I never had'' how expensive is it to a childs upbringing when you take away what you did have and replace it with what you did not have, are we breading a better class of person by denying them their right to fall out of a tree?

Class divide has always been arround but didn't the upper class have to fabricate a hostile or should i say hard, inviroment for the young?

bernard (hug)
Sebastian Toe

Shaker wrote:
I went out wandering for miles, climbed trees and fell out of them, touched electrified cattle fences, fell in streams, cut myself, burnt myself and all the rest of it. .


I did that as well.

Only it was last Saturday night on the long way home from the pub.
I maybe had one or six, too many rums!
bnabernard

At the proiry (AA) we were told not to stiffle the inner child  
Now you got to see if you can still do it without the rums  

bernard (hug)
Paul

Shaker wrote:
Freedom is the most important aspect, in my opinion - I mean the sort of freedom I had as a kid, not just the freedom to play out which we're told is becoming more and more curtailed for a number of reasons (some real, some utterly specious) but the freedom to make my own friends, to get wet, get mucky, even hurt myself. I went out wandering for miles, climbed trees and fell out of them, touched electrified cattle fences, fell in streams, cut myself, burnt myself and all the rest of it. Over-protectiveness is about the most understandable trait there is in a parent but in the long term it does a kid no favours. And doesn't help the parents either, for that matter.


Well, well, well. I think for once we agree.
Shaker

Sebastian Toe wrote:
Shaker wrote:
I went out wandering for miles, climbed trees and fell out of them, touched electrified cattle fences, fell in streams, cut myself, burnt myself and all the rest of it. .


I did that as well.

Only it was last Saturday night on the long way home from the pub.
I maybe had one or six, too many rums!

Been there. Done that. Got the beer scooter home. Somehow. Goodness only knows how. More times than my remaining amount of brain cells can possibly remember. Ah, happy days  
Ketty

Shaker wrote:
Freedom is the most important aspect, in my opinion - I mean the sort of freedom I had as a kid, not just the freedom to play out which we're told is becoming more and more curtailed for a number of reasons (some real, some utterly specious) but the freedom to make my own friends, to get wet, get mucky, even hurt myself. I went out wandering for miles, climbed trees and fell out of them, touched electrified cattle fences, fell in streams, cut myself, burnt myself and all the rest of it. Over-protectiveness is about the most understandable trait there is in a parent but in the long term it does a kid no favours. And doesn't help the parents either, for that matter.


I couldn't agree more.  My mum still doesn't know all the scary antics I got up to during those long summer days!  But whatever we got up to and whatever adventures we had we somehow knew what time to get home for dinner or tea.

It's only with hindsight I realise that maybe I shouldn't have just thought 'tut, silly boys!' that the lads were trying to make a bomb from fertiliser and sugar?   It didn't occur to me to get well away - it's a good job it never worked.
Shaker

Ketty wrote:
I couldn't agree more.  My mum still doesn't know all the scary antics I got up to during those long summer days!

Oooooh I bet you did handstands up against the wall and showed all the boys your knickers. Start as you mean to continue, I say
Sebastian Toe

Shaker wrote:
Ketty wrote:
I couldn't agree more.  My mum still doesn't know all the scary antics I got up to during those long summer days!

Oooooh I bet you did handstands up against the wall and showed all the boys your knickers. Start as you mean to continue, I say
That assumes that knickers were actually worn, it was summer after all!
Ketty

Sebastian Toe wrote:
That assumes that knickers were actually worn, it was summer after all!


Shaker wrote:

Oooooh I bet you did handstands up against the wall and showed all the boys your knickers. Start as you mean to continue, I say


Slugs and snails and puppy-dog tails: it's true.  

 
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Re: what is a 'proper childhood

bnabernard wrote:
Heard this again from a woman whos grandfather worked in the mills as a child, ''they never had a proper childhood'' so what is a proper childhood?

bernard (hug)
A proper childhood is climbing a tree falling out of getting hurt and getting up and climbing it again. Its misbehaving and having the local Copper clip you round the ear. Its feeling thirsty and all of you drinking from the same tap regardless.
In effect a proper childhood is something missing to most youngsters today.
bnabernard

The answer to ''why shoudn't I'' seems to be answered from experience the hard way, this seems to carry on in life as we ignore the experience of others to learn from their mistakes.
Learning to drive springs to mind as an example, we are told and taught the right way, pass the test, then some will get out and boot it, throw caution to the wind etc, do we ever grow up realy?

A  proper childhood should lead to a proper adult life, is either possible?
It would seem thet proper is to throw caution to the wind or am I getting it wrong?

bernard (hug)
Ketty

bnabernard wrote:


A  proper childhood should lead to a proper adult life, is either possible?


I hope forever to be an improper child.  Proper grown ups are boring.    
Shaker

Ketty wrote:
bnabernard wrote:


A  proper childhood should lead to a proper adult life, is either possible?


I hope forever to be an improper child.  Proper grown ups are boring.    

Absolutely   Growing older may be compulsory but growing up sure as hell ain't  

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