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JamesJah

Who made Vhristians religious?

When did Christians get turned into a religion?

Did many countries choose different types of religion, or did Rome start it or was it Constantine?

What is the major difference between the Egyptian orthodox and the Greek orthodox?

When did Christians stop being the way?
Powwow

Why did some 7th day adventists break away eventually morphing into Russellites/JWs? Why did the JWs stop being adventists?

http://ssheltonimages.com/img/0b/...ssell_and_Pyramidology_jw_org.jpg
JamesJah

pow wow wrote:
Why did some 7th day adventists break away eventually morphing into Russellites/JWs? Why did the JWs stop being adventists?

http://ssheltonimages.com/img/0b/...ssell_and_Pyramidology_jw_org.jpg


They tried to get back to what the bible taught rather than what some mans opinion of what it taught.

They also found it difficult to do that as in those days mans ego can get in the way of the facts.
Jim

Re: Who made Vhristians religious?

JamesJah wrote:
When did Christians get turned into a religion?

Did many countries choose different types of religion, or did Rome start it or was it Constantine?

What is the major difference between the Egyptian orthodox and the Greek orthodox?

When did Christians stop being the way?



Who made Christians religious?
Dunno - I'm not religious, I'm Christian.
Jim

pow wow wrote:
Why did some 7th day adventists break away eventually morphing into Russellites/JWs? Why did the JWs stop being adventists?

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Now, c'mon, pow wow; that's not really fair...
I mean, you ommitted pseudo-Masonic pyramidiots as foundations for the JW religion, and a whole recycling bin worth of rotten translations and misquoted history.
Pleas try harder next time.
We wouldn't want James disillusioned, would we?

http://ssheltonimages.com/img/0b/...ssell_and_Pyramidology_jw_org.jpg
trentvoyager

Are Vhristians some lizard like sect?
Jim

Re: Who made Vhristians religious?

JamesJah wrote:
When did Christians get turned into a religion?

Did many countries choose different types of religion, or did Rome start it or was it Constantine?

What is the major difference between the Egyptian orthodox and the Greek orthodox?

The following statement from James makes me scratch my head (and  I'm not a happy bunny, 'cos I want to preserve some hair):


When did Christians stop being the way?




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When have Christians ever been 'the way'?
Is this some new theology of which I am blissfully unaware?
JamesJah

trentvoyager wrote:
Are Vhristians some lizard like sect?


Do some people think that they know what they are talking about?

Where does their knowledge come from?
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
trentvoyager wrote:
Are Vhristians some lizard like sect?


Do some people think that they know what they are talking about?

Where does their knowledge come from?



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Brooklyn?
Powwow

(smiley face)
JamesJah

Re: Who made Vhristians religious?

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
When did Christians get turned into a religion?

Did many countries choose different types of religion, or did Rome start it or was it Constantine?

What is the major difference between the Egyptian orthodox and the Greek orthodox?

When did Christians stop being the way?



Who made Christians religious?
Dunno - I'm not religious, I'm Christian.


Christians are followers of Christ and his teachings they pray to Jesus Father as Jesus taught, not as some religion teaches.
Jim

Re: Who made Vhristians religious?

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
When did Christians get turned into a religion?

Did many countries choose different types of religion, or did Rome start it or was it Constantine?

What is the major difference between the Egyptian orthodox and the Greek orthodox?

When did Christians stop being the way?



Who made Christians religious?
Dunno - I'm not religious, I'm Christian.


Christians are followers of Christ and his teachings they pray to Jesus Father as Jesus taught, not as some religion teaches.


I pray to MY father, James...as Scripture teaches.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
trentvoyager wrote:
Are Vhristians some lizard like sect?


Do some people think that they know what they are talking about?

Where does their knowledge come from?



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Brooklyn?


How may are that sensible?
Powwow

Chucky's grave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ngYDytpKSCk
Jim

[quote="JamesJah:119958"]
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
trentvoyager wrote:
Are Vhristians some lizard like sect?


Do some people think that they know what they are talking about?

Where does their knowledge come from?



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Brooklyn?


How may are that sensible?


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Eh? Do you want to rephrase that, or try Klingon?
JamesJah

[quote="Jim:119960"]
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
trentvoyager wrote:
Are Vhristians some lizard like sect?


Do some people think that they know what they are talking about?

Where does their knowledge come from?



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Brooklyn?


How may are that sensible?


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Eh? Do you want to rephrase that, or try Klingon?


Who are pointing to the Kingdom that Jesus said his flowers would be pointing too?

Matthew 24:12-14
because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. 13 But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.

And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations,

and then the end will come.

>>>>Where are the subjects of that Kingdom?<<<<<
Jim

[quote="JamesJah:119963"]
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
trentvoyager wrote:
Are Vhristians some lizard like sect?


Do some people think that they know what they are talking about?

Where does their knowledge come from?



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Brooklyn?


How may are that sensible?


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Eh? Do you want to rephrase that, or try Klingon?


Who are pointing to the Kingdom that Jesus said his flowers would be pointing too?

Matthew 24:12-14
because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. 13 But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.

And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations,

and then the end will come.

>>>>Where are the subjects of that Kingdom?<<<<<


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Since I'm a child of the King, I'll put my hand up.
JamesJah

[quote="Jim:119965"]
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
trentvoyager wrote:
Are Vhristians some lizard like sect?


Do some people think that they know what they are talking about?

Where does their knowledge come from?



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Brooklyn?


How may are that sensible?


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Eh? Do you want to rephrase that, or try Klingon?


Who are pointing to the Kingdom that Jesus said his flowers would be pointing too?

Matthew 24:12-14
because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. 13 But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.

And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations,

and then the end will come.

>>>>Where are the subjects of that Kingdom?<<<<<


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Since I'm a child of the King, I'll put my hand up.


Is your king equal with the Almighty?
Jim

[quote="JamesJah:120043"]
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
trentvoyager wrote:
Are Vhristians some lizard like sect?


Do some people think that they know what they are talking about?

Where does their knowledge come from?



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Brooklyn?


How may are that sensible?


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Eh? Do you want to rephrase that, or try Klingon?


Who are pointing to the Kingdom that Jesus said his flowers would be pointing too?

Matthew 24:12-14
because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. 13 But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.

And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations,

and then the end will come.

>>>>Where are the subjects of that Kingdom?<<<<<


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Since I'm a child of the King, I'll put my hand up.


Is your king equal with the Almighty?


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Since I declare myself a child of the King, even you should be able to work that out.


Or possibly not.
JamesJah

How do people become Christian today with so many false religions teaching pagan religions?

How many different  trinities are there?
Sebastian Toe

JamesJah wrote:
How do people become Christian today with so many false religions teaching pagan religions?


Like the Russelites?
JamesJah

Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
How do people become Christian today with so many false religions teaching pagan religions?


Like the Russelites?


Who are Russelites ????
cyberman

JamesJah wrote:
Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
How do people become Christian today with so many false religions teaching pagan religions?


Like the Russelites?


Who are Russelites ????


Have you ever heard of a chap named Charles Taze Russell?
Powwow

Chucky Russell the founder of the JW cult.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PsU45pBvRNU
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
How do people become Christian today with so many false religions teaching pagan religions?
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Wot....like religions founded by pyramidiots and false prophets, you men?

How many different  trinities are there?


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One God, triune in nature.

There were umpteen duos, triads, a few quads, some enneads and even a type of pseudo-monotheism in certain ancient cultures.



Oh - and lots of pyramids for cretins to make fools of themselves with.
Jim

Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
How do people become Christian today with so many false religions teaching pagan religions?


Like the Russelites?


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Ssssssh!
Don't tell him, Pike!
Jim

cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
How do people become Christian today with so many false religions teaching pagan religions?


Like the Russelites?


Who are Russelites ????


Have you ever heard of a chap named Charles Taze Russell?



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Oh, he's heard of him.....like many of his co-religionists, I bet he wih he hadn't, though...
   
JamesJah

cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
How do people become Christian today with so many false religions teaching pagan religions?


Like the Russelites?


Who are Russelites ????


Have you ever heard of a chap named Charles Taze Russell?


Yes I have and I have also hared of the derogatory names he was called in his life time fortunately for us he did not let it faze him Just as Jesus  did not let the Pharisees' stop his progress.

He started a bible research program that would have dot him lynch by orthodoxy in the old day, still the truths that he found where not popular just as Jesus said the would ne.

Now we are in the position to see he was correct to point people in the direction of the scriptures for getting at the truth of the matter.


John 15:20, 21
A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have observed my word, they will also observe yours. But they will do all these things against you on account of my name, because they do not know the One who sent me.

Matthew 11:18, 19
Likewise, John came neither eating nor drinking, but people say, ‘He has a demon.’

 The Son of man did come eating and drinking, but people say, ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’

All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Sebastian Toe wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
How do people become Christian today with so many false religions teaching pagan religions?


Like the Russelites?


Who are Russelites ????


Have you ever heard of a chap named Charles Taze Russell?


Yes I have and I have also hared of the derogatory names he was called in his life time fortunately for us he did not let it faze him Just as Jesus  did not let the Pharisees' stop his progress.

He started a bible research program that would have dot him lynch by orthodoxy in the old day, still the truths that he found where not popular just as Jesus said the would ne.
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Yep.
Jesus warned us against false teachers and false prophets.
Well done for spotting that, James. Please show, using Scripture, where pyramidiocy was part of God's plan.
Thanks.
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Now we are in the position to see he was correct to point people in the direction of the scriptures for getting at the truth of the matter.
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Was he positive in lying about the measurements of the Great Pyramid in order to make them fit his daft theories as well?
A Yes or No will suffice.
Thanks
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John 15:20, 21
A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have observed my word, they will also observe yours. But they will do all these things against you on account of my name, because they do not know the One who sent me.
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Nice text.
Diddly squat to do with false prophets or teachers, though.
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Matthew 11:18, 19
Likewise, John came neither eating nor drinking, but people say, ‘He has a demon.’

 The Son of man did come eating and drinking, but people say, ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’

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Still not seeing the point about false prophets or teachers here.
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All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by its works.

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Amen!
Was using false figures and the work of pre Judeo-Christian cibilisations wise, then?
JamesJah

When Russell found  a teaching was unscriptural, he did not keep making excuses for it and ridiculing the truth seekers, he and the other bible students abandoned it, plus all of Babylon's teachings that religions had polluted themselves with.



Revelation 18:4-6
I heard another voice out of heaven say:

“Get out of her, my people,

if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. Repay her in the way she treated others, yes, pay her back double for the things she has done. .
Jim

[quote="JamesJah:120104"]When Russell found  a teaching was unscriptural, he did not keep making excuses for it and ridiculing the truth seekers, he and the other bible students abandoned it, plus all of Babylon's teachings that religions had polluted themselves with.

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Er....are you trying to tell me Russell's witterings on the Great Pyramid were scriptural?
Not according to his chief numpty and sucessor Rutherford the hypocrite, they weren't.
Which one of these twits was correct, James?
A YES or NO will suffice.
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JamesJah

[quote="Jim:120106"]
JamesJah wrote:
When Russell found  a teaching was unscriptural, he did not keep making excuses for it and ridiculing the truth seekers, he and the other bible students abandoned it, plus all of Babylon's teachings that religions had polluted themselves with.

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Er....are you trying to tell me Russell's witterings on the Great Pyramid were scriptural?
Not according to his chief numpty and sucessor Rutherford the hypocrite, they weren't.
Which one of these twits was correct, James?
A YES or NO will suffice.
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At least ue based it on scripture  where do you find trinity in scripture?


Isaiah 19:19-22
 In that day there will be an altar to Jehovah in the middle of the land of Egypt and a pillar to Jehovah at its boundary. It will be for a sign and for a witness to Jehovah of armies in the land of Egypt; for they will cry out to Jehovah because of the oppressors, and he will send them a saviour, a grand one, who will save them. And Jehovah will become known to the Egyptians, and the Egyptians will know Jehovah in that day, and they will offer sacrifices and gifts and make a vow to Jehovah and pay it. Jehovah will strike Egypt, striking and healing it; and they will return to Jehovah, and he will respond to their entreaties and heal them.


So now you tell us where is this altar????
Jim

With which part of the sentence
"a YES or NO will suffice"
are you having dificulties?
Also, can I suggest that your post was not in any definable way, an answer to my points.
JamesJah

Most critics of Russell have no idea on what he based his attempting to understand where Jehovah's altar is in Egypt.

In his publication the divine plan of the ages he does not say that his choice is one hundred present the correct one he just uses the dimensions as a memory aid for the history of the scriptures it also does not change what Isaiah said in chapter 19.

This prophecy is now being fulfilled is it not regardless of what your question alludes to?


Isaiah 19:1-4
A pronouncement against Egypt: Look! Jehovah is riding on a swift cloud and is coming into Egypt. The worthless gods of Egypt will tremble before him, And the heart of Egypt will melt within it.  

“I will incite Egyptians against Egyptians, And they will fight one another, Each against his brother and his neighbour, City against city, kingdom against kingdom.


 And the spirit of Egypt will become bewildered within it, And I will confuse its plans. They will resort to the worthless gods, To the charmers and to the spirit mediums and to the fortune-tellers.  

I will hand Egypt over to a hard master, And a harsh king will rule over them,” declares the true Lord, Jehovah of armies.
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Most critics of Russell have no idea on what he based his attempting to understand where Jehovah's altar is in Egypt.
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Yep.
But I'm not 'most people...I've read Smythe and his non existant 'pyramid inch' on which Russell miscalculted, using the WRONG measurements, the so-called future. The great Egyptologist W.M.F Petrie, a surveyor, at around the same time Russell was writing his lies, measured the structure ACCURATELY. Modern laser techniques have confirmed Petrie's work to be exact...unlike Smythe and Russell's pathetic manipulation, mismeasurement and fantasies.
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In his publication the divine plan of the ages he does not say that his choice is one hundred present the correct one he just uses the dimensions as a memory aid for the history of the scriptures it also does not change what Isaiah said in chapter 19.
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These would be the WRONG measurements, and therefore the WRONG dimensions, then?
And what about the new chamber discovered in the 1990's by Zaci Hawass, and the probable existance of an as yet unexplored further chamber which, apparently, Russell's god forgot to tell him about...cos that would have made the calculations even MORE daft!
Oh, and Russell's god seems to have changed his mind a few times while he was inspiring the old chap....
http://neirr.org/pyramidscheme.htm
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This prophecy is now being fulfilled is it not regardless of what your question alludes to?
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That would be the prophesy Russell called a "Second Scripture in Stone", while Rutherford called it a "work of Satan"
One of these 'witnesses' is a liar....which one?


Isaiah 19:1-4
A pronouncement against Egypt: Look! Jehovah is riding on a swift cloud and is coming into Egypt. The worthless gods of Egypt will tremble before him, And the heart of Egypt will melt within it.  

“I will incite Egyptians against Egyptians, And they will fight one another, Each against his brother and his neighbour, City against city, kingdom against kingdom.


 And the spirit of Egypt will become bewildered within it, And I will confuse its plans. They will resort to the worthless gods, To the charmers and to the spirit mediums and to the fortune-tellers.  

I will hand Egypt over to a hard master, And a harsh king will rule over them,” declares the true Lord, Jehovah of armies.


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Since Isaih was writing his prophesy 1900 years after the pyramid of Khufu was built, this text is irrelevent.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Most critics of Russell have no idea on what he based his attempting to understand where Jehovah's altar is in Egypt.
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Yep.
But I'm not 'most people...I've read Smythe and his non existant 'pyramid inch' on which Russell miscalculted, using the WRONG measurements, the so-called future. The great Egyptologist W.M.F Petrie, a surveyor, at around the same time Russell was writing his lies, measured the structure ACCURATELY. Modern laser techniques have confirmed Petrie's work to be exact...unlike Smythe and Russell's pathetic manipulation, mismeasurement and fantasies.
-

In his publication the divine plan of the ages he does not say that his choice is one hundred present the correct one he just uses the dimensions as a memory aid for the history of the scriptures it also does not change what Isaiah said in chapter 19.
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These would be the WRONG measurements, and therefore the WRONG dimensions, then?
And what about the new chamber discovered in the 1990's by Zaci Hawass, and the probable existance of an as yet unexplored further chamber which, apparently, Russell's god forgot to tell him about...cos that would have made the calculations even MORE daft!
Oh, and Russell's god seems to have changed his mind a few times while he was inspiring the old chap....
http://neirr.org/pyramidscheme.htm
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This prophecy is now being fulfilled is it not regardless of what your question alludes to?
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That would be the prophesy Russell called a "Second Scripture in Stone", while Rutherford called it a "work of Satan"
One of these 'witnesses' is a liar....which one?


Isaiah 19:1-4
A pronouncement against Egypt: Look! Jehovah is riding on a swift cloud and is coming into Egypt. The worthless gods of Egypt will tremble before him, And the heart of Egypt will melt within it.  

“I will incite Egyptians against Egyptians, And they will fight one another, Each against his brother and his neighbour, City against city, kingdom against kingdom.


 And the spirit of Egypt will become bewildered within it, And I will confuse its plans. They will resort to the worthless gods, To the charmers and to the spirit mediums and to the fortune-tellers.  

I will hand Egypt over to a hard master, And a harsh king will rule over them,” declares the true Lord, Jehovah of armies.


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Since Isaih was writing his prophesy 1900 years after the pyramid of Khufu was built, this text is irrelevent.


This scripture is not irrelevant if one is looking for where Jehovah's altar might be.

It is understood today that it is not the Great Pyramid but it was an easy mistake to make in the days of the trinity and Father Christmas

(1 Corinthians 13:11, 12
When I was a babe, I used to speak as a babe, to think as a babe, to reason as a babe; but now that I have become a man, I have done away with the [traits] of a babe. For at present we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror, but then it will be face to face. At present I know partially, but then I shall know accurately even as I am accurately known.

So where is Jehovah's altar in Egypt?
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Most critics of Russell have no idea on what he based his attempting to understand where Jehovah's altar is in Egypt.
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Yep.
But I'm not 'most people...I've read Smythe and his non existant 'pyramid inch' on which Russell miscalculted, using the WRONG measurements, the so-called future. The great Egyptologist W.M.F Petrie, a surveyor, at around the same time Russell was writing his lies, measured the structure ACCURATELY. Modern laser techniques have confirmed Petrie's work to be exact...unlike Smythe and Russell's pathetic manipulation, mismeasurement and fantasies.
-

In his publication the divine plan of the ages he does not say that his choice is one hundred present the correct one he just uses the dimensions as a memory aid for the history of the scriptures it also does not change what Isaiah said in chapter 19.
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These would be the WRONG measurements, and therefore the WRONG dimensions, then?
And what about the new chamber discovered in the 1990's by Zaci Hawass, and the probable existance of an as yet unexplored further chamber which, apparently, Russell's god forgot to tell him about...cos that would have made the calculations even MORE daft!
Oh, and Russell's god seems to have changed his mind a few times while he was inspiring the old chap....
http://neirr.org/pyramidscheme.htm
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This prophecy is now being fulfilled is it not regardless of what your question alludes to?
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That would be the prophesy Russell called a "Second Scripture in Stone", while Rutherford called it a "work of Satan"
One of these 'witnesses' is a liar....which one?


Isaiah 19:1-4
A pronouncement against Egypt: Look! Jehovah is riding on a swift cloud and is coming into Egypt. The worthless gods of Egypt will tremble before him, And the heart of Egypt will melt within it.  

“I will incite Egyptians against Egyptians, And they will fight one another, Each against his brother and his neighbour, City against city, kingdom against kingdom.


 And the spirit of Egypt will become bewildered within it, And I will confuse its plans. They will resort to the worthless gods, To the charmers and to the spirit mediums and to the fortune-tellers.  

I will hand Egypt over to a hard master, And a harsh king will rule over them,” declares the true Lord, Jehovah of armies.


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Since Isaih was writing his prophesy 1900 years after the pyramid of Khufu was built, this text is irrelevent.


This scripture is not irrelevant if one is looking for where Jehovah's altar might be.

It is understood today that it is not the Great Pyramid but it was an easy mistake to make in the days of the trinity and Father Christmas

(1 Corinthians 13:11, 12
When I was a babe, I used to speak as a babe, to think as a babe, to reason as a babe; but now that I have become a man, I have done away with the [traits] of a babe. For at present we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror, but then it will be face to face. At present I know partially, but then I shall know accurately even as I am accurately known.

So where is Jehovah's altar in Egypt?


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Abu, or Elephantine, where a Temple to YHWH was built by Jewish merceneries in the early dyn XXVI.

Oh, and getting back to delusioned old Russell, and his 'pyramid inch'.....THERE AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS A PYRAMID INCH, James - there never was. The Egyptianmeasure was the cubit, which was only standardised round about 900 BC. Before then, for the previous two thousand yers, the cubit varied considerably in size.
Have a look at
http://ed5015.tripod.com/PaPyramids13.htm
which shows just how insane pyramidiocy was, and is.
Jim

One of my specialities in Egyptology, James, is the Third Intermediate Period and Late Periods (c 1100-525 BC), and dyn XXVI in particular.
Here's the basic Wiki entry on the Elephantine papyri.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
One of my specialities in Egyptology, James, is the Third Intermediate Period and Late Periods (c 1100-525 BC), and dyn XXVI in particular.
Here's the basic Wiki entry on the Elephantine papyri.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri


What do your dates have to do with Jehovah excusing Egypt because he has his altar in the middle of Egypt?

What has nationalism and the flag got to do with Christianity?
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
One of my specialities in Egyptology, James, is the Third Intermediate Period and Late Periods (c 1100-525 BC), and dyn XXVI in particular.
Here's the basic Wiki entry on the Elephantine papyri.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri


What do your dates have to do with Jehovah excusing Egypt because he has his altar in the middle of Egypt?
You're the one who wanted to know where the Alter was, James...Oh, and by the way, the Giza Plataeu is NOT in the middle of Egypt. Try Amarna...no, on second thoughts, don't. I don't want you telling me you have ideas connecting Russell with Akhenaten.

Oh, and, just for you....
    Here, James, just for you, is the proof - in words and images, that Russell's god wasn't very good at predicting...or that he didn't know how many chambers there were in the Great Pyramid when he 'inspired' Russell to write his guff.

http://www.newscientist.com/artic...mber-of-secrets.html#.U9Q3wxh0wT5

Perhaps, in the light of these new ideas and images, the bods at Brooklyn will send a team down to Giza to measure the new room...you never know, they might get all the measurements right in the process and predict the parousia date for the umpteenth time.....

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What has nationalism and the flag got to do with Christianity?

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Irrelevent to the post.
Farmer Geddon

Jim.

Are you a follower of the Christ, or the Pope?

JJ?

Are you a follower of the Christ, or the Smith?
Jim

Farmer Geddon wrote:
Jim.

Are you a follower of the Christ, or the Pope?
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Have youread any of my posts in the Blog room?
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JJ?

Are you a follower of the Christ, or the Smith?

- "the Smith"?
You think James is a Mormon (cue Ralph2)

Try Irn Bru, F.G.!
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
One of my specialities in Egyptology, James, is the Third Intermediate Period and Late Periods (c 1100-525 BC), and dyn XXVI in particular.
Here's the basic Wiki entry on the Elephantine papyri.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri


What do your dates have to do with Jehovah excusing Egypt because he has his altar in the middle of Egypt?
You're the one who wanted to know where the Alter was, James...Oh, and by the way, the Giza Plataeu is NOT in the middle of Egypt. Try Amarna...no, on second thoughts, don't. I don't want you telling me you have ideas connecting Russell with Akhenaten.

Oh, and, just for you....
    Here, James, just for you, is the proof - in words and images, that Russell's god wasn't very good at predicting...or that he didn't know how many chambers there were in the Great Pyramid when he 'inspired' Russell to write his guff.

http://www.newscientist.com/artic...mber-of-secrets.html#.U9Q3wxh0wT5

Perhaps, in the light of these new ideas and images, the bods at Brooklyn will send a team down to Giza to measure the new room...you never know, they might get all the measurements right in the process and predict the parousia date for the umpteenth time.....

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What has nationalism and the flag got to do with Christianity?

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Irrelevent to the post.


People worship the flag in America, so quite relevant??

Mormons are a religion I am a servant of the most high, of which there is only one.

His son is gathering subjects together for his kingdom,

Revelation 7:9, 10
After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.

 And they keep shouting with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
One of my specialities in Egyptology, James, is the Third Intermediate Period and Late Periods (c 1100-525 BC), and dyn XXVI in particular.
Here's the basic Wiki entry on the Elephantine papyri.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantine_papyri


What do your dates have to do with Jehovah excusing Egypt because he has his altar in the middle of Egypt?
You're the one who wanted to know where the Alter was, James...Oh, and by the way, the Giza Plataeu is NOT in the middle of Egypt. Try Amarna...no, on second thoughts, don't. I don't want you telling me you have ideas connecting Russell with Akhenaten.

Oh, and, just for you....
    Here, James, just for you, is the proof - in words and images, that Russell's god wasn't very good at predicting...or that he didn't know how many chambers there were in the Great Pyramid when he 'inspired' Russell to write his guff.

http://www.newscientist.com/artic...mber-of-secrets.html#.U9Q3wxh0wT5

Perhaps, in the light of these new ideas and images, the bods at Brooklyn will send a team down to Giza to measure the new room...you never know, they might get all the measurements right in the process and predict the parousia date for the umpteenth time.....

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What has nationalism and the flag got to do with Christianity?

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Irrelevent to the post.


People worship the flag in America, so quite relevant??
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Eh? I'm not in America. Niether, unless the Yanks have nicked it, is the pyramid of Khufu that russel couldn't measure properly.
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Mormons are a religion I am a servant of the most high, of which there is only one.
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And?
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His son is gathering subjects together for his kingdom,
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Which is relevant to the topic of pyramidiocy in what way, exactly?
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Revelation 7:9, 10
After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.

 And they keep shouting with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”


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Still not seeing pyramidiocy and the idiots who believed it here.
Richie

Re: Who made Vhristians religious?

JamesJah wrote:
When did Christians get turned into a religion?


Christianity became a religion as soon as people started worshipping Jesus. As for an actual date? Jim will be better than I on this, but I suppose a good place for a 'date' would be Pentecost and the descent of the HS onto the apostles

Quote:

Did many countries choose different types of religion, or did Rome start it or was it Constantine?


Countries are not an animate object. They don't 'chose' anything.

Quote:

What is the major difference between the Egyptian orthodox and the Greek orthodox?


Have me on this one. Not sure what the main difference would be between the two. They are both part of the Eastern tradition, so I doubt there is any material difference between the two to be honest. Main one would be that the Coptic Church is led by the Pope of Alexandria and the Greek Orthodox by the Patriarch of Constantinople, who is also FAE of the entire Eastern tradition.

Quote:

When did Christians stop being the way?


not entirely sure what you are attempting to say here with your badly mangled English, but I suspect its a not so subtle dig that your sect, which is a perverted offshoot of Christianity, is 'the way'
JamesJah

What is the difference between the wheat and the weeds?

Where are the wheat Christians gathered to?
Jim

[quote="JamesJah:120125"]What is the difference between the wheat and the weeds?

Where are the wheat Christians gathered to?[/quote

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And James tries to avoid the rubbish Russell spouted about the Great Pyramid - again.
Not to good on apologetics, here, James.....
JamesJah

[quote="Jim:120126"]
JamesJah wrote:
What is the difference between the wheat and the weeds?

Where are the wheat Christians gathered to?[/quote

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And James tries to avoid the rubbish Russell spouted about the Great Pyramid - again.
Not to good on apologetics, here, James.....


That is not a good enough excuse for the weeds the scriptures still say get out of her does it not?

When Jesus came to inspect those claiming to be faithful which did he actually find worthy of choosing?

Matthew 24:45-47
Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

Which Christians could he choose from?
Jim

[quote="JamesJah:120127"]
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
What is the difference between the wheat and the weeds?

Where are the wheat Christians gathered to?[/quote

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And James tries to avoid the rubbish Russell spouted about the Great Pyramid - again.
Not to good on apologetics, here, James.....


That is not a good enough excuse for the weeds the scriptures still say get out of her does it not?

When Jesus came to inspect those claiming to be faithful which did he actually find worthy of choosing?

Matthew 24:45-47
Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

Which Christians could he choose from?

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Christians to whom truth is valuable.
Not those who think they are Christians by spouting Scriptures in a fruitless attempt to justify the corrupt, anti-Christ who was an occult pyramidiot, who was the foundation of their pseudochristian religion.
What does Scripture say about such a faith built on sand?
JamesJah

[quote="Jim:120129"]
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
What is the difference between the wheat and the weeds?

Where are the wheat Christians gathered to?[/quote

-
And James tries to avoid the rubbish Russell spouted about the Great Pyramid - again.
Not to good on apologetics, here, James.....


That is not a good enough excuse for the weeds the scriptures still say get out of her does it not?

When Jesus came to inspect those claiming to be faithful which did he actually find worthy of choosing?

Matthew 24:45-47
Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

Which Christians could he choose from?

-
Christians to whom truth is valuable.
Not those who think they are Christians by spouting Scriptures in a fruitless attempt to justify the corrupt, anti-Christ who was an occult pyramidiot, who was the foundation of their pseudochristian religion.
What does Scripture say about such a faith built on sand?


The Christian has one foundation stone and it is not any pope or self appointed substitute for the Christ who is the Almighties choice for all those who claim to worship the one true A Almighty Father Jehovah God.

All buildings built on some other entreaty has built on the sand.

On what is your building founded on?

Matthew 7:24-27
Therefore everyone that hears these sayings of mine and does them will be likened to a discreet man, who built his house upon the rock-mass. And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and lashed against that house, but it did not cave in, for it had been founded upon the rock-mass. Furthermore, everyone hearing these sayings of mine and not doing them will be likened to a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand. And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and struck against that house and it caved in, and its collapse was great.”
Jim

[quote="JamesJah:120130"]
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
What is the difference between the wheat and the weeds?

Where are the wheat Christians gathered to?[/quote

-
And James tries to avoid the rubbish Russell spouted about the Great Pyramid - again.
Not to good on apologetics, here, James.....


That is not a good enough excuse for the weeds the scriptures still say get out of her does it not?

When Jesus came to inspect those claiming to be faithful which did he actually find worthy of choosing?

Matthew 24:45-47
Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

Which Christians could he choose from?

-
Christians to whom truth is valuable.
Not those who think they are Christians by spouting Scriptures in a fruitless attempt to justify the corrupt, anti-Christ who was an occult pyramidiot, who was the foundation of their pseudochristian religion.
What does Scripture say about such a faith built on sand?


The Christian has one foundation stone and it is not any pope or self appointed substitute for the Christ who is the Almighties choice for all those who claim to worship the one true A Almighty Father Jehovah God.

All buildings built on some other entreaty has built on the sand.

On what is your building founded on?

Matthew 7:24-27
Therefore everyone that hears these sayings of mine and does them will be likened to a discreet man, who built his house upon the rock-mass. And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and lashed against that house, but it did not cave in, for it had been founded upon the rock-mass. Furthermore, everyone hearing these sayings of mine and not doing them will be likened to a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand. And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and struck against that house and it caved in, and its collapse was great.”



-Nice texts.
Totally irrelevent to the subject of Russell's duplicitous manipulation of poor measurements, his use of a non-Christian edifice to falsly prophesy, and the twists and turns of his sucessors in duplicity.
But, yes, nice text.
Will you be answering the point some time soon, or trying to continue to evade the facts of the matter with spontaneously generated texts which have no relevence?
JamesJah

[quote="Jim:120131"]
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
What is the difference between the wheat and the weeds?

Where are the wheat Christians gathered to?[/quote

-
And James tries to avoid the rubbish Russell spouted about the Great Pyramid - again.
Not to good on apologetics, here, James.....


That is not a good enough excuse for the weeds the scriptures still say get out of her does it not?

When Jesus came to inspect those claiming to be faithful which did he actually find worthy of choosing?

Matthew 24:45-47
Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

Which Christians could he choose from?

-
Christians to whom truth is valuable.
Not those who think they are Christians by spouting Scriptures in a fruitless attempt to justify the corrupt, anti-Christ who was an occult pyramidiot, who was the foundation of their pseudochristian religion.
What does Scripture say about such a faith built on sand?


The Christian has one foundation stone and it is not any pope or self appointed substitute for the Christ who is the Almighties choice for all those who claim to worship the one true A Almighty Father Jehovah God.

All buildings built on some other entreaty has built on the sand.

On what is your building founded on?

Matthew 7:24-27
Therefore everyone that hears these sayings of mine and does them will be likened to a discreet man, who built his house upon the rock-mass. And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and lashed against that house, but it did not cave in, for it had been founded upon the rock-mass. Furthermore, everyone hearing these sayings of mine and not doing them will be likened to a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand. And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and struck against that house and it caved in, and its collapse was great.”



-Nice texts.
Totally irrelevent to the subject of Russell's duplicitous manipulation of poor measurements, his use of a non-Christian edifice to falsly prophesy, and the twists and turns of his sucessors in duplicity.
But, yes, nice text.
Will you be answering the point some time soon, or trying to continue to evade the facts of the matter with spontaneously generated texts which have no relevence?


As I have pointed out before it was used as a memory aid for epoch or ages in the bible and was not used for any prophetic specifications..

Then what is that to you I show you scripture which is relevant to the discussion and you ignore it for some ancient anti bible student ureteric that has no relevance today.

Why do religions ignore scripture advice that Jesus gave them for their own good?

Is it because religions have become  sofar  removed from the Christian teachings???
Jim

So when Russell refferred to Khufu's pyramid as "a second Bible in stone", he was either
A) wrong...in which case we cannot trust his musings,
or B) lying; in which case we dare not trust his musings.
Which?
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
So when Russell refferred to Khufu's pyramid as "a second Bible in stone", he was either
A) wrong...in which case we cannot trust his musings,
or B) lying; in which case we dare not trust his musings.
Which?


Only the Mormons have a second bible, the one we have is enough for life there is no other.

As he was trying to locate the altar Jehovah said would be in the centre of Egypt I do not see your connection to anything he taught.

He said he was uncertain of his speculation but time would tell.

As I said before do you kow where Jehovah's altar is in the centre of Egypt?
JamesJah

Isaiah 19:19-22
 In that day there will be an altar to Jehovah in the middle of the land of Egypt and a pillar to Jehovah at its boundary.


 It will be for a sign and for a witness to Jehovah of armies in the land of Egypt;

for they will cry out to Jehovah because of the oppressors, and he will send them a saviour, a grand one, who will save them. And Jehovah will become known to the Egyptians, and the Egyptians will know Jehovah in that day, and they will offer sacrifices and gifts and make a vow to Jehovah and pay it. Jehovah will strike Egypt, striking and healing it; and they will return to Jehovah, and he will respond to their entreaties and heal them.
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
So when Russell refferred to Khufu's pyramid as "a second Bible in stone", he was either
A) wrong...in which case we cannot trust his musings,
or B) lying; in which case we dare not trust his musings.
Which?


Only the Mormons have a second bible, the one we have is enough for life there is no other.
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So, when Russell said the pyramid was "a second Bible in stone", he was wrong. Thanks. Not much of a prophet or not to be trusted. That answers that.
Well done.
So why do JWs revere someone who was patntly wrong in his assertions?
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As he was trying to locate the altar Jehovah said would be in the centre of Egypt I do not see your connection to anything he taught.
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No.
What he was doing, as you well know, was using the ravings of Smyth and others, and the wildly innacurate measurements of a dyn IV Egyptian structure which had not been properly eplored, to calculate the future.
It's called pyramidology, James - and no-one with half a brain cell takes it seriously.
No-one except the nascent JW religion, apparently.
Do you wish me to post links to the publications, including your beloved Watchtower, which swallowed his trash?
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He said he was uncertain of his speculation but time would tell.
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Wrong.
He was adamant regarding his calculations. Do you wish me to post links to JW publications (now suppressed because of embarrasment, but thankfully still extant) which show his certainty?
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As I said before do you kow where Jehovah's altar is in the centre of Egypt?

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Elephantine.
Keep up.
JamesJah

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
So when Russell refferred to Khufu's pyramid as "a second Bible in stone", he was either
A) wrong...in which case we cannot trust his musings,
or B) lying; in which case we dare not trust his musings.
Which?


Only the Mormons have a second bible, the one we have is enough for life there is no other.
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So, when Russell said the pyramid was "a second Bible in stone", he was wrong. Thanks. Not much of a prophet or not to be trusted. That answers that.
Well done.
So why do JWs revere someone who was patntly wrong in his assertions?
-

As he was trying to locate the altar Jehovah said would be in the centre of Egypt I do not see your connection to anything he taught.
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No.
What he was doing, as you well know, was using the ravings of Smyth and others, and the wildly innacurate measurements of a dyn IV Egyptian structure which had not been properly eplored, to calculate the future.
It's called pyramidology, James - and no-one with half a brain cell takes it seriously.
No-one except the nascent JW religion, apparently.
Do you wish me to post links to the publications, including your beloved Watchtower, which swallowed his trash?
-

He said he was uncertain of his speculation but time would tell.
=-
Wrong.
He was adamant regarding his calculations. Do you wish me to post links to JW publications (now suppressed because of embarrasment, but thankfully still extant) which show his certainty?
-

As I said before do you kow where Jehovah's altar is in the centre of Egypt?

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Elephantine.
Keep up.



The WT has printed many teachings that on the surface appear to scriptural but with a deeper study were bot dud they hold onto the no they printed a correction when it came to light in harmony with what would take place in the last days.

Nearly all the religious world had become weeds, even the wheat would have to remove ideas that they had been contaminated with.

So who are now throwing off false teachings for the pure waters of truth?




Daniel 12:9, 1
Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end.
 
 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And


the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand.
Jim

So when liar Rutherford called the Great Pyramid a ' work of Satan', he was not calling your founder fool Russell a liar?
JamesJah

It appears that U Tube has a definitive answer by some one as to where all the weeds can be found and why if you have enough time to watch it



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67f2JjeZ_84
cyberman

JamesJah wrote:
It appears that U Tube has a definitive answer by some one as to where all the weeds can be found


By "Some One", you say? Well, I am certainly a big admirer of Some One's work in the field, and he is clearly a renowned expert. Does anyone know where I could get Some One's autograph?
JamesJah

cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
It appears that U Tube has a definitive answer by some one as to where all the weeds can be found


By "Some One", you say? Well, I am certainly a big admirer of Some One's work in the field, and he is clearly a renowned expert. Does anyone know where I could get Some One's autograph?


Could be you who knows what is hiding behind that tin mask????

The URL take you to the best put together history of the weeds I have seen for a while.
Jim

JamesJah wrote:
It appears that U Tube has a definitive answer by some one as to where all the weeds can be found and why if you have enough time to watch it  
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Ecky thump, James;
My computer throws a wbbly as far as NGL is comcerned.
I return, link on uyour  site (below) in the hope of a serious discussion on pyramidology, pyramidiocy and false prophesy.
What do I find but a load of toilet scrapings from an unatributed, unqualified twit with all the archaeological knowledge of a penguin.
You'll have to try MUSC harder if you want to show Russell  as anything other than the unmitigated liar his writings show him to be.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67f2JjeZ_84

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