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Lexilogio
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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Who really admits they smoke cannabis?


That is a good point in terms of getting accurate research. In a society which criminalises users - it is far harder to differentiate between the user and non user.

I would like to see - at minimum - a five year research period established, where cannabis use was considered fully legal, to enable viable research of the effects on users.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's no point being concerned because there's been a letter warning him of permanent liver damage.  Concern doesn't actually help or cure.  He's making his own decisions. He's making his own choices and liver damage and death is the stark reality and consequence of those choices.

So is he going to take the help on offer to cure him of his life controlling addictions?  What's his honest and greatest desire - to score again, to have just one more drink, or to seriously clean himself up?  No person or organisation can change the life-controlling habits of those who in reality have not reached the stage where they want to help themselves.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judders Lady... wrote:
Was a little concerned over C as he had a letter from the doctor telling him that the alcohol has caused further damage to his Liver and they want him to come and discuss his problem because of the risk that the damage could become permenant.
He has cried a few times lately... S said he has been doing coke and I am concerned because I think he is already writing himself off.
I have been trying to support him as best I can but everything is so limited.


In as little as 18 months I have learned about the destructive force of alcohol. It doesn't just destroy the liver it destroys their soul too.


Here's what I've learned in the 20 years that I have been living with addiction in the family, and as the main support to a couple of addicts. If there is anything I say here you can take, take it.  If there's anything I say here you can't take or agree with - don't take it, don't agree with it.  Just know that it comes from someone who really has been dealing with this for a long long time, and from someone who is more than willing to pray for you, your friends and support you if you want it. Ok?

First - how you help an addict is import: its less about what you do and more about how you do it.  If you make yourself indespensable to them, they will become dependant on you, which creates another dependancy. Set boundries and be firm about them. With a close friend of mine, I would not visit him and he was not allowed to come and see me if he was high.  Make sure that days you set aside for yourself are never disturbed.

Second - never give cash.  Never buy an alcoholic alcohol. Never feed the habit.  If they say they have no food, take them to the shops. That's really important.

Third - When they do something good, say something funny or get something right, praise it and make a fuss of that.  It sounds obvious - be positive around them - but its remarkably easy to sucked into the negativity of addiction.

Fourth - Keep information available about local counselling services, let them know you have it and leave it at that.

Lastly - and hardest of all: be prepared to walk away.

I will be praying.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wise words Lorna!

I've also had to be tough in dealing with an addict.

Can't write more as I've got to get to the post with a letter giving praise to an addict who is doing well in prison at the moment.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynne, throw a few scriptures at him; make 'em bold and underlined and that should sort him out.  

In fact, give him the whole lot in one go and bang him over the head with your big family Bible.  


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