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SceptiKarl
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

My impression is that Len is not at all "smug". He has a point. It's only a few hundred years ago that different Christians were burning each other for being the "wrong" sort of Christian. With some 25,000 to 30,000 different varieties of Protestantism around, who is to say which is the "right" variety? As for the Catholics, well we all know they all agree with each other, never question the Pope, never use artificial contraception, and all disaprove of child abuse by the clergy, and the subsequent covering up by the RCC. They all disaprove of guilty priests being moved on to other areas, victims sworn to silence with the ever present threat of excommunication hanging over them. Yes Catholics are all of one mind, no disagreements at all between them!

(Well except maybe in Ireland).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh come off it! the opening post is as smug as all get out and you know it.   I can see why Leonard finds the idea of people spending money on enjoyment so abhorrent; why bother when you can bask in your own feelings of superiority for free?

And, Karl, I don't know if you are being ironic or labouring under a massive misunderstanding, but Roman Catholicism is absolutely heaving with disagreement.  Thank goodness!  I assume you are being ironic, in which case I wonder whether you too think disagreement is something to be mocked and feared?  Bad luck chum, it's part of being human.

What utter crud.  As for the bilge about burning dissenters.  Lots of people have done lots of horrible things to other people for all sorts of reasons.  Yeah, sometimes they use religion to justify it, but banning religion don't make us all nicey nicey.  Pretty awful things are still happening, carrying on the twentieth century tradition of doing nasty things in the name of the people.  And our nice post Enlightenment society is becoming increasingly intolerant too, isn't it?  Or hadn't you noticed?

As for the idea that there is something ridiculous about reinterpreting and discussing old texts - well, that's literary criticism out of the window then, isn't it?  Well, I always knew Shakespeare was rubbish.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boss Cat wrote:
 I assume you are being ironic, in which case I wonder whether you too think disagreement is something to be mocked and feared?  


I think you are assuming too much of a thought process with Skeptikarl. It's strictly knee-jerk with him.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the atheists who have posted on this one believed in God they could all say 'thank God we are not as other men'.  As it is they have to say 'How lucky we are!'.  Thank chance for that!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Reason. We can thank our ability to reason we are not as other men.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: How lucky we are! Reply with quote

IvyOwl wrote:

The idea that you can get some deep meaningful insight in the precise interpretation of words written long ago IO


So if someone writes something which gives the benefit of their reflections, after what period of time exactly does it cease to give valuable insight?

Should we about now be starting to disregard Shakespeare's insights? Or Marx's?

What is the shelf life of the written word in your opinion?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

genghiscant wrote:
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Reason. We can thank our ability to reason we are not as other men.


Souns as if chance is omnipotent, everlasting, etc any chance that chance, under this philosophy, has a chance?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boss Cat wrote:
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Thank chance for that!



genghiscant wrote:
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Reason. We can thank our ability to reason that we are not as other men.



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Souns as if chance is omnipotent, everlasting, etc any chance that chance, under this philosophy, has a chance?

bernard


I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there. Boss Cat wrote the first bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yer but not realy, chance has always existed, chance has everything at hand, surely?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yer but not realy, chance has always existed, chance has everything at hand, surely?

bernard


Yes, of course you're absolutely correct, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for chance.

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