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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:12 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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Chinese whispers? seems that we are refering to a God with no control?

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Don't you feel that the NT indicates that there were conflicting ideas in circulation, which the writers of the epistles were seeking to clarify?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberman wrote:
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Chinese whispers? seems that we are refering to a God with no control?

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Don't you feel that the NT indicates that there were conflicting ideas in circulation, which the writers of the epistles were seeking to clarify?


I know I'm not the brightest pebble on the beach but it seems to me that 'man' has his ways of causing his own confusion.
Things have a way of going pear shaped the moment man decides to try it another way, fit his own slant on things, develop his own interest, blimey take David and Solomon, look over the fence at some greener grass?

Em, now lets see if we can clarify God I'm not happy with His own explanation?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it seems to me that 'man' has his ways of causing his own confusion.


Indeed. Hence the chinese whispers, hence the need for the NT writers to address the existence of confusing and conflicting messages.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberman wrote:
bnabernard wrote:

it seems to me that 'man' has his ways of causing his own confusion.


Indeed. Hence the chinese whispers, hence the need for the NT writers to address the existence of confusing and conflicting messages.


So the evidence is that man has eliminated his confusion?

Who are confused the christians or the Jews?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wot's the difference (apart from a snip)?
As Scripture says: "In Christ there is niether Jew nor Gentile.......but we are all one in Christ Jesus".
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
Wot's the difference (apart from a snip)?
As Scripture says: "In Christ there is niether Jew nor Gentile.......but we are all one in Christ Jesus".


Is that the christian scripture, or a chinese one? or is it a cry from a guy where the grass is greener?

There's this God that was clever enough to invent the brain, where does he fit into all this.
This 'ere God had the foresight to get things recorded but seems to have slipped up when it came to a rather crucial point in history.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Scripture.
Written by a "Pharisee of the Pharisisees" who found Christ Jesus - God Incarnate - to be the answer to all his questions.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But was he really a Pharisee?

Ok fair enough, the guys who wrote Acts and Philippians put it about that he was one but....

Pauls polemics on circumcision kinda shows that he obviously could not have been a Pharisee trained Jew because circumcision is one of Godís commandments, either that or he was very confused in his thinking in trying to establish his Abrahamic roots as a selling point for his messianic teachings...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pauls polemics on circumcision kinda shows that he obviously could not have been a Pharisee


No, no. Paul's argument about circumcision is that (a) non-Jews don't need to be circumcised (Pharisees would not disgree with that) and (b) non-Jews can be Christians (Pharisees wouldn't care a jot about that).
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farmer Geddon wrote:
But was he really a Pharisee?



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Well, he said he was.....
I haven't got the "Pharisees-r-us" directory to hand to confirm it.
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Ok fair enough, the guys who wrote Acts and Philippians put it about that he was one but....
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Paul didn't write Phillippians?
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Pauls polemics on circumcision kinda shows that he obviously could not have been a Pharisee trained Jew because circumcision is one of Godís commandments, either that or he was very confused in his thinking in trying to establish his Abrahamic roots as a selling point for his messianic teachings...


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You have heard of the New Covenant, haven't you?
Paul was no longer a 'Pharisee of the Pharisees'.
Jesus put a new kind of thinking in his head.
At least that's how I read it.


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