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The Day Is Coming When Islam Will Rule the World Again:
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Farmer Geddon
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:44 pm    Post subject: The Day Is Coming When Islam Will Rule the World Again:  Reply with quote

Saudi Islamic Scholar Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif:
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Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: "These events are paving the way for a greater thing to come. They are paving the way for a great Islam that is coming with force, because the world is in need of leadership. The current leadership – communism, capitalism, and so on – has gone bankrupt. Only Islam is left to lead the world. The Prophet Muhammad foretold this clearly in several hadiths. Islamic leadership is coming whether people like it or not. Therefore, we must become soldiers of this emerging leadership. [...]

"We believe in the principle that Islam is suitable for any time or place. In addition, this religion was put to the test, so to speak, and it established an empire, which was magnificent in its power and greatness, as well in the compassion it displayed towards the world, and in its best possible leadership of humanity.

"When after the 16th century, the Islamic nation was removed from power – having been struck by all those tragedies – and others took over the leadership of mankind, we witnessed the worst possible results: oppression, global tyranny, arrogance, and despotism. The only thing that the sheiks, preachers, and scholars are demanding is that Islam rule the world once again."

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2842.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rule the world once again?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their world Sam...  they are going to rule their world once again, surely!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farmer Geddon wrote:
Their world Sam...  they are going to rule their world once again, surely!!


No, it definately says "The only thing that the sheiks, preachers, and scholars are demanding is that Islam rule the world once again".

The world not their world.

This implies that Islam ruled the world before.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well of course, in their little world they did... and they want to rule it again.

What's wrong with that?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farmer Geddon wrote:
Well of course, in their little world they did... and they want to rule it again.

What's wrong with that?



Because individuals must have a right to choose.
For example - historically, people were forced to convert to Islam, or face trade & tax scenarios that would potentially starve them.  Even now, those who convert from Islam end up being killed by their family, community or the state.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farmer Geddon wrote:
Well of course, in their little world they did... and they want to rule it again.

What's wrong with that?



What's wrong (in the sense of accuracy) with the statement
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The only thing that the sheiks, preachers, and scholars are demanding is that Islam rule the world once again


is that Islam never ruled the world before and therefore cannot rule the world again.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: The Day Is Coming When Islam Will Rule the World Again: Reply with quote

Farmer Geddon wrote:
Saudi Islamic Scholar Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif:
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Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: "These events are paving the way for a greater thing to come. They are paving the way for a great Islam that is coming with force, because the world is in need of leadership. The current leadership – communism, capitalism, and so on – has gone bankrupt. Only Islam is left to lead the world. The Prophet Muhammad foretold this clearly in several hadiths. Islamic leadership is coming whether people like it or not. Therefore, we must become soldiers of this emerging leadership. [...]

"We believe in the principle that Islam is suitable for any time or place. In addition, this religion was put to the test, so to speak, and it established an empire, which was magnificent in its power and greatness, as well in the compassion it displayed towards the world, and in its best possible leadership of humanity.

"When after the 16th century, the Islamic nation was removed from power – having been struck by all those tragedies – and others took over the leadership of mankind, we witnessed the worst possible results: oppression, global tyranny, arrogance, and despotism. The only thing that the sheiks, preachers, and scholars are demanding is that Islam rule the world once again."

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2842.htm


Ah memri the home of dodgy translation and editing and anti-Muslim hate.

I suspect that you are arguing over a poor translation rather than what the man said or meant.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lexilogio wrote:
Farmer Geddon wrote:
Well of course, in their little world they did... and they want to rule it again.

What's wrong with that?



Because individuals must have a right to choose.
For example - historically, people were forced to convert to Islam, or face trade & tax scenarios that would potentially starve them.  Even now, those who convert from Islam end up being killed by their family, community or the state.

Lexi
I see that you repeat the often sited 'non-Muslims pay more tax under a Caliphate' pack of lies.  Non-Muslims were exempt from certain taxes Muslims had to pay but paid their own tax for services from the state.

A touch of research on the killing of apostates might be in order and a sense of proportion as well, remember just as not all Catholic Priests are paedophiles neither are all Muslims guilty of killing or wanting to kill apostates.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Judders, what are you doing here? LOL!
"Any true Christian would have left nglreturns by now" That was written by you on the topic of banning the mention of ngl over on R&E. Reply#6 to be exact.
Tells us alot there Sasser.

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