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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: Is it art?  Reply with quote

One of the questions which comes up periodically is  - what is classified as art?

This came to the fore in the Uk recently, when, again, some critics questioned if the work of Damien Hirst, could be considered art. After all, he doesn't even do the painting himself.

In 2008, a photography exhibition in Sydney was shut down after politicians got steamed up and sent in the police to remove a number of pictures of naked 12 to 13 year olds. The art world was outraged, and after the classification board rated them all as fine to see - the exhibition re-started.

But is there a limit? What makes art? If I stand naked in Trafalgar Square - I'd be arrested. But if Damien Hirst put me there, on one of the pillars - it would be called art. What is the difference?
(Nb. I would like to assure members that I have absolutely no intention of standing, sitting, or in any other manner appearing in Trafalgar Square without clothing....Quite apart from the fact it would more appropriately be a comedy act....)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Art is that which is accepted to be art. I don't particularly consider that it has to be created with the intention of being perceived as art.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Art is in the eye of the beholder.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it art? Reply with quote

Lexilogio wrote:
But is there a limit? What makes art? If I stand naked in Trafalgar Square - I'd be arrested. But if Damien Hirst put me there, on one of the pillars - it would be called art. What is the difference?

It just shows what a stupid and gullible world we live in. Real art is what a person or small group do which echos how a set of people feel inside. It's a zeitgeist. Because of our sheer numbers this soon gets lost in commercialisation or some contrived affectation. True art will often bond a group together in some kind of identity, often seen in tribal peoples.


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(Nb. I would like to assure members that I have absolutely no intention of standing, sitting, or in any other manner appearing in Trafalgar Square without clothing....Quite apart from the fact it would more appropriately be a comedy act....)

Bang goes my dreams. You raise our hopes and then dash them against the cruel rocks of life.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: Is it art? Reply with quote

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Bang goes my dreams. You raise our hopes and then dash them against the cruel rocks of life.[/quote]


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Art is the discipline of creating artefacts, perhaps you meant to ask about the fine arts?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Spoke wrote:
Art is the discipline of creating artefacts, perhaps you meant to ask about the fine arts?


Hmmm - that depends on what you term "fine art".

I meant paintings, music, literature, sculpture, film, etc... The stuff that goes on, "The Culture Show".
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think of art as being distinct from nature - the clue is in the word.  

Some art might be ridiculous, stupid, pretentiously stupid, deliberately elitist in its pretentious stupidity, poor quality, completely meaningless, useless, pointless etc etc etc.  But if it's produced as art then as far as I can see it's art.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boss Cat wrote:
I think of art as being distinct from nature - the clue is in the word.  

Some art might be ridiculous, stupid, pretentiously stupid, deliberately elitist in its pretentious stupidity, poor quality, completely meaningless, useless, pointless etc etc etc.  But if it's produced as art then as far as I can see it's art.


So art is created by humans? Something deliberately made?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lexilogio wrote:


So art is created by humans?


I think we can see art in nature - the beautifully crafted wasps' nest, a breathtaking sunset, etc.

Lexilogio wrote:
Something deliberately made?


Not necessarily but maybe in one sense, yes, because of what our minds and imagination make of whatever it is we're looking at and perceive as art.


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