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The Boyg
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Shaker wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
cyberman wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
It might not have. However that doesn't justify people turning their frustration into abuse.


The Boyg wrote:

Please stop making dickhead presumptions about my beliefs and I will.  


Is that the best that you could come up with?

Quote-mining me describing someone's comments as 'dickhead presumptions' in response to them calling me a prick?


And what's the problem here, exactly?


I don't know. It depends on what Cyberman was hoping to prove with his little quote-mining exercise.  He didn't say at the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaker wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
Shaker wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
This 'discussion' is starting to look like something that belongs in the Bear Pit.

... a state of affairs which presumably wouldn't have come about if cymrudinnion had the minerals either to (a) substantiate his claims with evidence or (b) fess up that he said something that isn't actually true, or that it's merely his personal opinion that he can't substantiate with facts.


It might not have. However that doesn't justify people turning their frustration into abuse.

You have the advantage of me in that regard as I haven't seen any - abuse, I mean.


Well, they do say that there's none so blind as those who will not see:

cyberman wrote:
Any examples yet, cym, you *** Edited by Lexi***


cyberman wrote:
cymrudynnion wrote:
As far as i am aware and especially in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.


Fucking liar


cyberman wrote:
cymrudynnion wrote:
in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.


Any evidence of this, or are you just a desperately sad liar?


cyberman wrote:
cymrudynnion wrote:
in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.


Do you have any evidence of this occurring, you intolerant bigot?


Lexilogio wrote:
cyberman wrote:
cymrudynnion wrote:
in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.


Do you have any evidence of this occurring, you intolerant bigot?


This is not the Bear Pit. Personal insults are not acceptable here.


cyberman wrote:
Lexilogio wrote:
cyberman wrote:
cymrudynnion wrote:
in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.


Do you have any evidence of this occurring, you intolerant bigot?


This is not the Bear Pit. Personal insults are not acceptable here.


It was meant more as an observation than an insult. But OK, I won't call him an intolerant bigot any more.


cyberman wrote:
cymrudynnion wrote:
in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.


So - these bucketfuls of concessions are in fact not a concession at all. Just like anyone else, a party of Muslims were allowed to hire a pool for a private event.

You are a disgraceful liar, and a bigot.


Willow wrote:
Cymru is a unpleasant bigot, gays, people with disabilities and those of different races and cultures are targets for his nastiness!


cyberman wrote:
cymrudynnion wrote:
cyberman wrote:
cymrudynnion wrote:
in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.


So - these bucketfuls of concessions are in fact not a concession at all. Just like anyone else, a party of Muslims were allowed to hire a pool for a private event.

You are a disgraceful liar, and a bigot.
And you are responding to the wrong person


What do you mean, wrong person?

You are the one who said:
cymrudynnion wrote:
in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.


And you are the one who, after weeks and weeks of shying away from the issue, said that it was to do with swimming pools.

cymrudynnion wrote:
In the local swimming pool there are times one cannot swim, why? Reason our Muslim friends wish to swim and they canot mix with the rest of the populous.


Stop being such a snivelling little coward and back up your claim that
cymrudynnion wrote:
in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.
.

Do you have any actual concessions in mind at all, or is it just ill-informed bigotted ranting?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grand. So where's the abuse you mentioned?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Grand. So where's the abuse?


Ask Lexi (the person you appointed as board admin). She appears to have been able to spot it.  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Boyg wrote:
Shaker wrote:
Grand. So where's the abuse?


Ask Lexi (the person you appointed as board admin). She appears to have been able to spot it.  

I can't ask her as by definition I can't see whatever it was that she removed.

Everything else you quoted however is viewable by me (and by you since you quoted it at wearisome length and to no purpose, to absolutely nobody's surprise) and therefore Lexi wouldn't - according to you - have considered it to be abuse, would she? Any more than I do. Otherwise she would have deleted it. But she didn't. Therefore what you have quoted ad nauseam isn't abuse. Correct?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Boyg wrote:

I don't know. It depends on what Cyberman was hoping to prove with his little quote-mining exercise.  He didn't say at the time.


This term 'quote-mining' again. Is it now just a 'get out of jail free' card to pretend you never actually said what you said.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaker wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
Shaker wrote:
Grand. So where's the abuse?


Ask Lexi (the person you appointed as board admin). She appears to have been able to spot it.  

I can't ask her as by definition I can't see whatever it was that she removed.


Presumably you can see the quote of her telling Cyberman that personal insults are unacceptable in response to him calling Cymrudynnion an "intolerant bigot" or does your perception filter blur that one out for you?  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Boyg wrote:
Presumably you can see the quote of her telling Cyberman that personal insults are unacceptable in response to him calling Cymrudynnion an "intolerant bigot" or does your perception filter blur that one out for you?  

Firstly, I've seen no evidence that for cyberman to have called someone an intolerant bigot is the personal insult Lexi referred to. Secondly, calling an intolerant bigot "an intolerant bigot" isn't abusive. It may well be a matter of subjective opinion, but that would explain why intolerant bigots are unlikely to regard other intolerant bigots as such since they share much the same views. It's in the nature of subjective opinion that intolerant bigots in aggregate are very much akin to a septic tank: the really big chunks of shit tend to stick together.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberman wrote:
The Boyg wrote:

I don't know. It depends on what Cyberman was hoping to prove with his little quote-mining exercise.  He didn't say at the time.


This term 'quote-mining' again. Is it now just a 'get out of jail free' card to pretend you never actually said what you said.


No it's what you call it when someone takes a quote out of context to make it appear that it meant something that it didn't, e.g. trying to pretend that I had abused someone when I described their comment as a "dickhead presumption" when I didn't actually say anything derogatory about them at all.  
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaker wrote:
The Boyg wrote:
Presumably you can see the quote of her telling Cyberman that personal insults are unacceptable in response to him calling Cymrudynnion an "intolerant bigot" or does your perception filter blur that one out for you?  

Firstly, I've seen no evidence that for cyberman to have called someone an intolerant bigot is the personal insult Lexi referred to.


Well, Cyberman appears to have understood the message load and clear, even if it has somehow managed to elude you:
cyberman wrote:
Lexilogio wrote:
cyberman wrote:
cymrudynnion wrote:
in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.


Do you have any evidence of this occurring, you intolerant bigot?


This is not the Bear Pit. Personal insults are not acceptable here.


It was meant more as an observation than an insult. But OK, I won't call him an intolerant bigot any more.



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Secondly, calling an intolerant bigot "an intolerant bigot" isn't abusive.


The admin that you appointed to run the board would appear to have a different opinion on that:
Lexilogio wrote:
cyberman wrote:
cymrudynnion wrote:
in my own neck of the woods any consession that islam wishes to have is given by the bucketfull by those in authority.


Do you have any evidence of this occurring, you intolerant bigot?


This is not the Bear Pit. Personal insults are not acceptable here.


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