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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:02 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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LOL.

Glad you took it in the way it was intended..  oooerrr missus!


Yes it made me


I love those H.E. 40s/50s skits, it makes me hanker after the good old days when men were men and women knew thier place (NOT)  

 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My personal favorite Mr Cholmondley-Warner skit:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



People used to speak like that, no really they did, well some of 'em, mainly on the BBC. And those lovely wee shorts    it's a wonder they didn't trip over the hems!!! but if the shorts didn't get 'em the cigs would!!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

S*d this, just as I got something to say we go into a commercial break,  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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S*d this, just as I got something to say we go into a commercial break,  





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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farmer Geddon wrote:
Umm seriously... so why the thanking OF "Silas" at the end of the story?

1Peter 5:12 With the help of Silvanus whom I regard as a faithful brother, I have written to you briefly, encouraging you and testifying that this is the true grace of God. Stand fast in it.

Read it again, Silvanius is obviously crowing about writing about being the 'editor' of the letter..  if Silas is the 'editor' of the letter, then ain't it conceivable that he is the author of the Gospel called "Mark"?


Yes it is conceivable. Do you think it is significant?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno what I think, but it is "Q.I." that the book of 1 Peter is written in elegant Greek, but according Luke in his "Acts", "Peter" was just an Aramaic-speaking fisherman of the lower classes, who is called “illiterate” in Acts 4:13.

Which shows that Peter could not have written it, so it must have been down to the scribe "Silvanus", mentioned in 5:12, to be the actual author of the letter….

I was just postulating when Papias claims that:

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..Mark having become the interpreter of Peter, wrote down accurately whatsoever he remembered. .. [This is what is related by Papias regarding Mark according to Eusebius]
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Which suggests to me that the author of "1 Peter" might just have been expanding on the Gospel of Mark, so it made more sense to his much later audience!!

Is Mark silus/silvanus?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farmer Geddon wrote:
I dunno what I think, but it is "Q.I." that the book of 1 Peter is written in elegant Greek, but according Luke in his "Acts", "Peter" was just an Aramaic-speaking fisherman of the lower classes, who is called “illiterate” in Acts 4:13.

Which shows that Peter could not have written it, so it must have been down to the scribe "Silvanus", mentioned in 5:12, to be the actual author of the letter….

I was just postulating when Papias claims that:

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..Mark having become the interpreter of Peter, wrote down accurately whatsoever he remembered. .. [This is what is related by Papias regarding Mark according to Eusebius]
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Which suggests to me that the author of "1 Peter" might just have been expanding on the Gospel of Mark, so it made more sense to his much later audience!!

Is Mark silus/silvanus?


But Silvanus could have written as Peter asked him to? Just as a Greek lawyer today would turn the demotikh words of a local into Katharevousa.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the point is Silas could have written what the smeg he wanted. Peter being illiterate wouldn't have had a clue whither what was written was what he said or not...

Also it could be argued that it may have been written by someone more intelligent, who was using "Mark" as a reference point.

Isn't the 2nd epistle regarded as older to the 1st according to "The church"?

The possibilities are endless!!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bnabernard wrote:
S*d this, just as I got something to say we go into a commercial break,  


The programme has restarted - quick, get in there and have your say before the advert for "The Jeremy Kyle show" starts..

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