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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

I deliberately didn't ask people who were close to be godparents because they are atheist. It didn't seem appropriate. Which makes it hard to choose a Godfather. Not many blokes go to church...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my expression of church we don't Christen or baptise children under the age of consent.  We do not think it has any Biblical basis, and instead we have dedication ceremonies.  

That said, I think a significant number of parents who take their children to be Christened are not practising Christians themselves, and for them, it's just one of those social niceties that one does on the journey from birth to death, and a reason to have a party.  If they don't have a particularly strong faith, then the finer nuances and the significance of the words said, will not have a deep meaning and that's proven by their choice of Godparent(s).  I've even been on MBs where people have moaned about being asked to be a Godparent because they felt it was a way of expecting a more generous gift from them.

I have a lot of respect for those who think deeply about and are brave enough to say 'No thank you'.  Equally, I can understand it having become just another happy and friendly way of celebrating birth, and if none of the parties truly understands the promises, then it is what it is, and I have no problem with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dedication - or blessing - services are becoming more common than infant baptism in this part of the CofS - for which I'm thankful, as I rejected my own infant baptism in favour of a believers baptism.
Too often in the past, the 'christening' (Ain't no such thing ) was only an excuse for a party, rather than a very special, sacred thing. At least now, many children have the choice to be baptised when they find faith - and, as a result, we are seeing significantly more adult baptisms.
We've never gone in for formal godparents, though. When a baptism occurs, the congregation as a whole is asked to stand and re-affirm their obligation to bring the new believer up in Christ's teaching.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should add, my DD was christened aged 10, and my youngest aged 9. Both chose to be christened themselves.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lexilogio wrote:
I should add, my DD was christened aged 10, and my youngest aged 9. Both chose to be christened themselves.


Lexi, can I ask (cos I'm not terribly au fait with it all), at that age, why Christened rather than Confirmed?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ketty wrote:
Lexilogio wrote:
I should add, my DD was christened aged 10, and my youngest aged 9. Both chose to be christened themselves.


Lexi, can I ask (cos I'm not terribly au fait with it all), at that age, why Christened rather than Confirmed?


My DD has now been confirmed as well. It is their choice - and we have to wait for confirmation classes to come round. My youngest didn't feel he was ready for confirmation classes this year.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lexilogio wrote:

My DD has now been confirmed as well. It is their choice - and we have to wait for confirmation classes to come round. My youngest didn't feel he was ready for confirmation classes this year.


I remember you telling us of her Confirmation.  It's good that your youngest is thinking about it sufficiently that he didn't just go along with it.

Is a Christening a legal pre-requisite to Confirmation?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ketty wrote:
Lexilogio wrote:

My DD has now been confirmed as well. It is their choice - and we have to wait for confirmation classes to come round. My youngest didn't feel he was ready for confirmation classes this year.


I remember you telling us of her Confirmation.  It's good that your youngest is thinking about it sufficiently that he didn't just go along with it.

Is a Christening a legal pre-requisite to Confirmation?


Yes. Although some adults get christened, or baptised at the same time. With children its discouraged, as its better for them to take each decision at a time.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lexilogio wrote:


Yes. Although some adults get christened, or baptised at the same time. With children its discouraged, as its better for them to take each decision at a time.


Thanks Lexi.  

I've learnt something new.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If a parent has been baptised and become physicaly and mentaly clean, why does a child of that parent need to be baptised, flesh of flesh and all that?

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