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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:36 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Lynne Stobbart @LynneStobbart
@NGLReturns @StevePayne1972 Agree. Forcing choice no better than not allowing choice #NGLReturns
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@LynneStobbart @StevePayne1972 Agree - an opt out system would be better than mandatory. But still nervous of that #NGLReturns

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@NGLReturns @trentvoyager Absolutely. Unfair & inappropriate for all concerned. #NGLReturns
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok, so agreed on that - what about the #LiverpoolCarePathway ? Is it a good thing? #NGLReturns
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@lexilogio @NGLReturns Not based on what I've heard of it, no! :( #NGLReturns
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@NGLReturns @StevePayne1972 OD system suggests registration is less of a problem than failing to d/w rels & make wishes known #NGLReturns
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@lexilogio @NGLReturns Seems to be well meaning but in practice can be horribly cruel. #NGLReturns
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@lexilogio @NGLReturns Death from denying food & fluids for days seems worse in some cases (for conscious patient) than active euthanasia.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@NGLReturns #NGLReturns Like most things - good if applied correctly & appropriately in circumstances and manner intended

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@StevePayne1972 @lexilogio But you can keep mouth moist, and often pt at this stage unable to eat - not denying just not forcing #NGLReturns
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Payne @StevePayne1972
@NGLReturns @lexilogio Totally fair point. Have heard horror stories though - perhaps media sensationalised, but still grim #NGLReturns

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@LynneStobbart Agree - when used well, far better because guide to removing active treatment, but can be misused #NGLReturns
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@NGLReturns @StevePayne1972 @lexilogio Simplistic and unhelpful to say it's inherently good or bad - too many other factors #NGLReturns

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@LynneStobbart @StevePayne1972 @lexilogio Agree - but on the whole - is it a good thing or not? #NGLReturns

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@StevePayne1972 Bad care is always bad care, whether on #LiverpoolCarePathway or not #NGLReturns


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