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Atheists are good if they do good, says Pope
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:52 am    Post subject: Atheists are good if they do good, says Pope  Reply with quote

Taking Catholicism forward by a century or two at least.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Atheists are good if they do good, says Pope Reply with quote

Hurrah!
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Needless to say, I'm not convinced that the Pope's idea of what constitutes goodness is going to align with the same idea amongst a great many atheists - he could well be saying merely 'Atheists are good if they do good according to my theistic/Christian conception of good.' Which I suspect is rather likely, in fact. Equal marriage, the use of contraception and the right to a physician-assisted suicide with dignity and without pain in a manner and at a time of your own choosing are all good - but not to him, so he won't say that they're good when atheists like me say they are.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, we're all good little atheists to be patted on the head! Go away, Francis!
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, we're all good little atheists to be patted on the head! Go away, Francis!


Fuck, there really is no pleasing some people!
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's just paying lip service, I'll only take him seriously when he endorses birth control, abortion and same sex marriages.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northernstar wrote:
He's just paying lip service, I'll only take him seriously when he endorses birth control, abortion and same sex marriages.


So you only "take seriously" people who agree with you on everything. Never mind. When you are older you will discover that the world doesn't work that way.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't need to be patronised by the head of the Catholic church, thank you very much, it's about time he put his own house in order. That goes for other religions, too.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northernstar wrote:
I don't need to be patronised by the head of the Catholic church, thank you very much, it's about time he put his own house in order. That goes for other religions, too.

No argument there!
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK I get that you guys are not really bothered what the Pope thinks; that's to be expected. But why actually complain about it?

You complain (rightly) when aggressive theistic attitudes (such as in the USA and in some Muslim countries) seem to encourage attacks upon or unfair treatment of atheists. Then you also complain when one of the world's most prominent theists positively discourages such attitudes and invites a more cordial relationship.

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