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Atheists are good if they do good, says Pope
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:08 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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Oh get real Shaker. I know how you godless operate around here. lol Oh and I feel no need to defend my beliefs to the godless.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Radio 4 listeners and presenters are to me a source of hope that views such as the Pope's will be seen as quite out of touch with reality


What, views like "atheists are good people, too", do you mean?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberman wrote:
SusanDoris wrote:
Radio 4 listeners and presenters are to me a source of hope that views such as the Pope's will be seen as quite out of touch with reality


What, views like "atheists are good people, too", do you mean?

Impossible to say. He didn't specify what he meant by his use of the word 'good,' though as I've pointed out previously, it's probably easy enough to guess.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaker wrote:
cyberman wrote:
SusanDoris wrote:
Radio 4 listeners and presenters are to me a source of hope that views such as the Pope's will be seen as quite out of touch with reality


What, views like "atheists are good people, too", do you mean?

Impossible to say. He didn't specify what he meant by his use of the word 'good,' though as I've pointed out previously, it's probably easy enough to guess.


So, Susan can't have meant his views about what the word "good" means because he didn't say. So susan must mean that she dislikes the view that whwther or not you are a theist has no bearing upon whether or not you are good. An odd thing for her to take exception to, but there it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberman wrote:

So, Susan can't have meant his views about what the word "good" means because he didn't say. So susan must mean that she dislikes the view that whwther or not you are a theist has no bearing upon whether or not you are good. An odd thing for her to take exception to, but there it is.

I have listened to that several times and it sounds just as confusing the third time as the first, so I shall not try to untangle it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SusanDoris wrote:
cyberman wrote:

So, Susan can't have meant his views about what the word "good" means because he didn't say. So susan must mean that she dislikes the view that whwther or not you are a theist has no bearing upon whether or not you are good. An odd thing for her to take exception to, but there it is.

I have listened to that several times and it sounds just as confusing the third time as the first, so I shall not try to untangle it.


It is quite simple.

(1) The Pope has said that being good has nothing to do with whether you are an atheist or a theist.

(2) You do not like this view

(3) I am surprised that you do not like this view.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how the pope views 'very good'?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being Catholic?

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