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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:30 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/201...telligent-atheists_n_3750096.html
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, seems some of these studies were carried out by promoters of eugenics and race based intelligence. Nasty stuff. But if that's what atheists need to use to toot their horns.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My yes, those atheists are sooooo intelligent. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSTx_qTWMQI
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pow wow wrote:
Oh dear, seems some of these studies were carried out by promoters of eugenics and race based intelligence.

Says who? Where is the evidence for this claim?

(Not that it actually matters, since even if this assertion were true, it wouldn't invalidate any other research. This is a fallacy known as poisoning the well. What is it with you and the logical fallacies this week powsers? Are you going for the full set? You're doing well so far  )
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you know how to use google Shaker? Guess you're not more intelligent after all. Here's some help for you little buddy, find out who authored those old studies that are being used today to promote your superior intelligence. lol Even I was able to find the authors and do a bio check on them. Duh

So what do you think of eugenics and raced based intelligence Shaker? And what do you think of people that promoted such ideas?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pow wow wrote:
Don't you know how to use google Shaker? Guess you're not more intelligent after all. Here's some help for you little buddy, find out who authored those old studies

Not all of them that old. The samples for this meta-study range from 1928 to 2012.

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that are being used today to promote your superior intelligence. lol Even I was able to find the authors and do a bio check on them. Duh

Right. And did the authors of this new meta-study do that? If so, why? If not, why not?

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So what do you think of eugenics and raced based intelligence Shaker?

Eugenics = depends on which type of eugenics you're referring to.

Race-based intelligence = Sounds like a load of eyewash, especially in the absence of any commonly-agreed definition of intelligence to start off with.

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And what do you think of people that promoted such ideas?


I think whatever they believed about eugenics and race-based intelligence is irrelevant to the topic under discussion (on which I am staying) for the reasons given in my previous post.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the absence of any commonly-agreed definition of intelligence


Does this absence render this thread meaningless?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberman wrote:
Shaker wrote:
the absence of any commonly-agreed definition of intelligence


Does this absence render this thread meaningless?

Pretty much, yep.

The (negative) correlation between religious adherence and educational attainment has been well known for donkey's years - that one, it seems, is pretty much done and dusted - but educational attainment on its own isn't the be-all and end-all of intelligence. That's why I haven't commented on any of the threads about this: admittedly I haven't delved into the stories about this in any detail but I'm not aware that there has been any cohesive definition of intelligence provided. Given that this is a meta-study of sixty-three studies perhaps some of those have sought to define what they're trying to measure, I don't know. I'd like to think that at least some of them out of sixty-three will have had a go. But I don't know as much.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well delve away Shaker. Learn something about those authors. The Huffington post raises some interesting questions concerning all those, atheists are smarter na, na studies.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pow wow wrote:
Well delve away Shaker. Learn something about those authors. The Huffington post raises some interesting questions concerning all those, atheists are smarter na, na studies.


I wonder if there has been a study done on the correlation between the religious and the irredeemably smug.


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