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bnabernard
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:06 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
There is no indication in Scripture either way.
However, given the  area in which the Lord grew up, his environment, the 'scandal' he aroused in the things he did, and people with whom He associated, if there had been any perceived breach of the Law in terms of His diet, I'm willing to bet the Pharisees would have used it as a rod to beat Him with.
There is no such evidence that this happened, therefore the obvious conclusion is that He subjected Himself to the Law in terms of diet.


I'm often told that archeaology can't find evidence to even support what is recorded so under the circumstances of your faith was God a meat eater.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
Well LC I wasn't realy questioning the lack of toilet paper and the ablutive arrangements though I'm sure they can be discused if you feel the need.
What I was pointing out was more to do with the diet.

bernard (hug)


Lets try again shall we

Do your questions require a new thread Bernie ?

Because before even beginning to answer your questions we need to discern the following.

Matthew 15
[i]15 Then some P’rushim and Torah-teachers from Yerushalayim came to Yeshua and asked him, 2 “Why is it that your talmidim break the Tradition of the Elders? They don’t do n’tilat-yadayim before they eat!” 3 He answered, “Indeed, why do you break the command of God by your tradition?[/i]

What are the ''Tradition of the Elders'' ?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite simply LC, evaluate what you feel neccessary, consult your brain regarding your evidence, then make a statement, you can of course give a reason for arriveing at any conclusion you come to.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
Quite simply LC, evaluate what you feel neccessary, consult your brain regarding your evidence, then make a statement, you can of course give a reason for arriveing at any conclusion you come to.

bernard (hug)


Quite simply you are unable to answer a simple question.

Lets try again shall we

Matthew 15
15 Then some P’rushim and Torah-teachers from Yerushalayim came to Yeshua and asked him, 2 “Why is it that your talmidim break the Tradition of the Elders? They don’t do n’tilat-yadayim before they eat!” 3 He answered, “Indeed, why do you break the command of God by your tradition?

What are the ''Tradition of the Elders'' ?

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LeClerc


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't answer a simple question!¬!!!!!

When did I ask you to  ask me a question?

It appears it's yourself who is unable to answer a simple question.


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Well, and I think I might have touched on this on this board, at least somewhere anyhow,.. Did Jesus eat meat, and if he did, how was it killed?

LC's quote refering to the abstinence to eating meat being a first choice where poss, lends itself to the question of the passover lamb, which in turn questions whether Jesus would have partaken.?


If you are having trouble with the english words try converting it to greek and re read it, or is that what  you have done and there is no grek equivilant of 'question' a clue though might be these things at the end of a sentenc ?????
Go sit in the corner.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
I can't answer a simple question!¬!!!!!

When did I ask you to  ask me a question?

It appears it's yourself who is unable to answer a simple question.


Quote:
Well, and I think I might have touched on this on this board, at least somewhere anyhow,.. Did Jesus eat meat, and if he did, how was it killed?

LC's quote refering to the abstinence to eating meat being a first choice where poss, lends itself to the question of the passover lamb, which in turn questions whether Jesus would have partaken.?


If you are having trouble with the english words try converting it to greek and re read it, or is that what  you have done and there is no grek equivilant of 'question' a clue though might be these things at the end of a sentenc ?????
Go sit in the corner.

bernard (hug)


Matthew 15 World English Bible
1 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem, saying, 2 “Why do your disciples disobey the tradition of the elders? For they don’t wash their hands when they eat bread.”
3 He answered them, “Why do you also disobey the commandment of God because of your tradition?


What is the the tradition of the elders ?

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LeClerc
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still strugling to answer lets re iterate AGAIN for you

Quote:

Well, and I think I might have touched on this on this board, at least somewhere anyhow,.. Did Jesus eat meat, and if he did, how was it killed?

LC's quote refering to the abstinence to eating meat being a first choice where poss, lends itself to the question of the passover lamb, which in turn questions whether Jesus would have partaken.?


Quite simply LC, evaluate what you feel neccessary, consult your brain regarding your evidence, then make a statement, you can of course give a reason for arriveing at any conclusion you come to.

While you struggle with what giving an answer means I'll wait and see if anyone else has less trouble.

notice that last sentence does not have one of these ? so it does not require an answer to that.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeClerc wrote:
Morning Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
I can't answer a simple question!¬!!!!!

When did I ask you to  ask me a question?

It appears it's yourself who is unable to answer a simple question.


Quote:
Well, and I think I might have touched on this on this board, at least somewhere anyhow,.. Did Jesus eat meat, and if he did, how was it killed?

LC's quote refering to the abstinence to eating meat being a first choice where poss, lends itself to the question of the passover lamb, which in turn questions whether Jesus would have partaken.?


If you are having trouble with the english words try converting it to greek and re read it, or is that what  you have done and there is no grek equivilant of 'question' a clue though might be these things at the end of a sentenc ?????
Go sit in the corner.

bernard (hug)


Matthew 15 World English Bible
1 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem, saying, 2 “Why do your disciples disobey the tradition of the elders? For they don’t wash their hands when they eat bread.”
3 He answered them, “Why do you also disobey the commandment of God because of your tradition?


What is the the tradition of the elders ?

Regards

LeClerc


I guess the "tradition of the Elders" was to wash their hands ( ritually) before eating while saying a blessing /prayer.

I assume either Jesus was a vegetarian or followed Kosher in regard to meat, otherwise they might have made more of the fact the meat was unKosher.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rose, good grief a response that isn't a question

The muslims, if I'm right, have what they consider an unclean hand, that is they use one for eating and one for cleaning themselves after going to the toilet.

Given the sanitary conditions back in the day there would be some pretty good advice given regarding washing and eating, even some incense burning when there were crowds gathered in a confined space.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Julie

Thank you for your reply

Rose wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning Bernie

bnabernard wrote:
I can't answer a simple question!¬!!!!!

When did I ask you to  ask me a question?

It appears it's yourself who is unable to answer a simple question.


Quote:
Well, and I think I might have touched on this on this board, at least somewhere anyhow,.. Did Jesus eat meat, and if he did, how was it killed?

LC's quote refering to the abstinence to eating meat being a first choice where poss, lends itself to the question of the passover lamb, which in turn questions whether Jesus would have partaken.?


If you are having trouble with the english words try converting it to greek and re read it, or is that what  you have done and there is no grek equivilant of 'question' a clue though might be these things at the end of a sentenc ?????
Go sit in the corner.

bernard (hug)


Matthew 15 World English Bible
1 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem, saying, 2 “Why do your disciples disobey the tradition of the elders? For they don’t wash their hands when they eat bread.”
3 He answered them, “Why do you also disobey the commandment of God because of your tradition?


What is the the tradition of the elders ?

Regards

LeClerc


I guess the "tradition of the Elders" was to wash their hands ( ritually) before eating while saying a blessing /prayer.

I assume either Jesus was a vegetarian or followed Kosher in regard to meat, otherwise they might have made more of the fact the meat was unKosher.

Julie


According to Rabbinic Judaism, which grew out of Pharisaic Judaism, YHWH gave Israel the Written Torah and the Oral Torah.

The Oral Torah is what Y’shua refers to as the Tradition of the Elders and is what came to be known as the Talmud.

Y’shua considered the Oral Law to be the traditions of men and had no authority, that is why He spoke out against it.

Basically it is what bound the people of Israel to the rules and regulations of man.

Regards

LeClerc

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