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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:47 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Herald the witnesses to this Len sounds like a pot party Is it JMC or LSD

When the time came for the death of St. Macarius, the Cherubim who was his guardian angel, accompanied by a multitude of the heavenly host, came for his soul. With the ranks of angels there also descended choirs of apostles, prophets, martyrs, hierarchs, monks and righteous ones.

The demons disposed themselves in ranks and crowds in order to behold the passage of the God-bearing soul. It began to ascend, visible to those monks who were at his deathbed. Standing far from it, the dark spirits shouted: ‘O Macarius, what glory you have been vouchsafed!’ The humble man answered them: ‘No! I still fear, because I do not know whether I have done anything good.’ Meanwhile he swiftly ascended to heaven. Even higher, the aerial powers again cried out: ‘Just so! You have escaped us, Macarius.’ ‘No,’ he replied, ‘I still need to flee.’ Whe
n he already had come to the gates of heaven, lamenting out of malice and envy, they cried out: ‘Just so! You did escape us, Macarius!’ He replied: ‘Guarded by the power of Christ, I have escaped your nets!’

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Herald the witnesses to this Len sounds like a pot party Is it JMC or LSD

When the time came for the death of St. Macarius, the Cherubim who was his guardian angel, accompanied by a multitude of the heavenly host, came for his soul. With the ranks of angels there also descended choirs of apostles, prophets, martyrs, hierarchs, monks and righteous ones.

The demons disposed themselves in ranks and crowds in order to behold the passage of the God-bearing soul. It began to ascend, visible to those monks who were at his deathbed. Standing far from it, the dark spirits shouted: ‘O Macarius, what glory you have been vouchsafed!’ The humble man answered them: ‘No! I still fear, because I do not know whether I have done anything good.’ Meanwhile he swiftly ascended to heaven. Even higher, the aerial powers again cried out: ‘Just so! You have escaped us, Macarius.’ ‘No,’ he replied, ‘I still need to flee.’ Whe
n he already had come to the gates of heaven, lamenting out of malice and envy, they cried out: ‘Just so! You did escape us, Macarius!’ He replied: ‘Guarded by the power of Christ, I have escaped your nets!’

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Blimey! Edgar Alan Poe will have to look to his laurels!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But it's not an easy or rapid task.


But you have contributed to this as you have boldly asserted (particularly in swaying "gullible people"). Any evidence yet to back up this claim?


No, of course not ... any more than you have for some of the things that you assert.


Ah, but you are the one who take people to task for not providing physical evidence for their claims, therefore it I'd say there's more burden on you to live up to this standard than I, precisely because it's your standard. And let's remember that the claim I am asking you to "back up" is not a particularly onerous one (if it were true). A post, a name, even an anecdote, would at least be a start.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMC wrote:
Leonard James wrote:
JMC wrote:
Leonard James wrote:

But it's not an easy or rapid task.


But you have contributed to this as you have boldly asserted (particularly in swaying "gullible people"). Any evidence yet to back up this claim?


No, of course not ... any more than you have for some of the things that you assert.


Ah, but you are the one who take people to task for not providing physical evidence for their claims, therefore it I'd say there's more burden on you to live up to this standard than I, precisely because it's your standard. And let's remember that the claim I am asking you to "back up" is not a particularly onerous one (if it were true). A post, a name, even an anecdote, would at least be a start.


I try to help people who have been misguided by religious/cultural influences. I sincerely hope I have been abler to influence some of the fence-sitters, but nobody has ever come to me and said you converted me, although I am sure that is so. OK?  
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I try to help people who have been misguided by religious/cultural influences. I sincerely hope I have been abler to influence some of the fence-sitters, but nobody has ever come to me and said you converted me, although I am sure that is so. OK?  


You've just restated what I've said: you are sure that you've influenced some fence-sitters (you originally referred to them as "gullible") despite not having any evidence that you have done that. That would be blind faith, and in this instance it is blind faith in yourself and your ability to guide the "misguided". And yet you continue to criticize people for believing things without evidence.

As you've simply confirmed I was not misrepresenting your hypocritical stance, I will continue to point it out when you interject your criticisms of other posters believing things "without evidence" into various threads.  
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMC wrote:
Leonard James wrote:

I try to help people who have been misguided by religious/cultural influences. I sincerely hope I have been abler to influence some of the fence-sitters, but nobody has ever come to me and said you converted me, although I am sure that is so. OK?  


You've just restated what I've said: you are sure that you've influenced some fence-sitters (you originally referred to them as "gullible") despite not having any evidence that you have done that. That would be blind faith, and in this instance it is blind faith in yourself and your ability to guide the "misguided". And yet you continue to criticize people for believing things without evidence.

As you've simply confirmed I was not misrepresenting your hypocritical stance, I will continue to point it out when you interject your criticisms of other posters believing things "without evidence" into various threads.  


Whatever makes you happy, dearie! But don't expect me to bother answering any more.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wear unremarkable clothes,
Eat simple food.
Behave in an unaffected manner.
Don't strut around as if you were important.
Speak from your heart.

-Abba Philemon
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The heart is only a small vessel,
yet dragons are there, and lions;
there are poisonous beasts
and all the treasures of evil;
there are rough and uneven roads;
there are precipices;
but there, too, are God and the angels;
life is there, and the Kingdom;
there, too, is light, and there the apostles,
and heavenly cities and treasures of grace.
All things lie within that little space.

-Macarius the Great
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Anyone who praises a man to his face," a certain elder said, "delivers him up for the devil to do battle against him."

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"Woe to him who is honored beyond his worth," a certain Father says. "The damage his soul suffers is irreparable. Fortunate is the man who is scorned by men, for glory awaits him in heaven."

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A holy elder, seeing with his own eyes a certain brother fall into deep sin, not only did not judge him, but wept and said: "He fell today; without doubt I will fall tomorrow. But he certainly will repent, whereas for myself, I am not so sure of this."


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