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A.C. Grayling on humanism
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:10 pm    Post subject: A.C. Grayling on humanism  Reply with quote

Long - almost an hour - but incredibly well worth it: a talk (at the National Federation of Atheist, Humanist and Secularist Student Societies 2014 Convention) by the marvellously erudite A.C. Grayling on humanism, a trip to the Creation Museum in Kentucky and other subjects:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Shakes. Excellent listening and a joy to hear most of my own attitude to life presented with such clarity.
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I really enjoyed it too. He's a top chap, that one.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Very few of the early Italian humanists were really humane."   humanist Irving Babbitt

Isn't that cute, isn't that true!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did A.C. Grayling get the idea from that the bible is a religious book?

Which religion in this world is there that has not been invented by self opinionated humans, in including humanism?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where did A.C. Grayling get the idea from that the bible is a religious book?


I would have thought that it was from the fact that the Bible is generally regarded as such.

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Which religion in this world is there that has not been invented by self opinionated humans,


What has that to do with whether or not the Bible is regarded as a religious book?

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in including humanism?


I wasn't aware that humanism is regarded as a religion.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamesJah wrote:
Where did A.C. Grayling get the idea from that the bible is a religious book?


Probably from the fact that it is!

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Which religion in this world is there that has not been invented by self opinionated humans, in including humanism?


Humanism is not a religion. Religion is belief in a divine supernatural power, unlike humanism which believes in human effort and ingenuity.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leonard James wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Where did A.C. Grayling get the idea from that the bible is a religious book?


Probably from the fact that it is!

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Which religion in this world is there that has not been invented by self opinionated humans, in including humanism?


Humanism is not a religion. Religion is belief in a divine supernatural power, unlike humanism which believes in human effort and ingenuity.


Just because some one does not say he is a god does not mean he has not set himself up as one.

Has Mr Grayling actually read the bible?

Does the bible say people should have a religious practice?

I bet he never read this bit>>\/

Galatians 6:4, 5
.But let each one examine his own actions, and then he will have cause for rejoicing in regard to himself alone, and not in comparison with the other person. 5 For each one will carry his own load.
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JamesJah wrote:
Does the bible say people should have a religious practice?

I bet he never read this bit>>\/

Galatians 6:4, 5
.But let each one examine his own actions, and then he will have cause for rejoicing in regard to himself alone, and not in comparison with the other person. 5 For each one will carry his own load.


And, in it's original context, is that passage about religious practice specifically or about personal behaviour in general?
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JamesJah wrote:
Just because some one does not say he is a god does not mean he has not set himself up as one.

Negative proof fallacy. For your claim to stand up to scrutiny and be taken seriously you'd have to provide some evidence that Prof. Grayling has set himself up as a god, instead of merely asserting it. Since he's an atheist - atheists by definition don't believe in any gods - I think I'm on safe ground in stating as a matter of fact that this has not happened.

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Has Mr Grayling actually read the bible?


I'm pretty sure he's familiar with it.


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