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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:27 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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 but can I finish my roast chicken with all the trimmings dinner tonight first?  

We're slowly emptying our freezer and once that's done the decision will be one step closer.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have tried to be a vegetarian in the past, and utterly failed.

I do not have a problem per se with the idea that we, as animals, reply upon the deaths of other animals for nutrition. I do have a problem with the commodification of animals and the way agriculture on our culture is now like an industry. I am concerned that animal welfare should be taken care of when animals are being reared for food. I am also concerned by the sheer volume of meat being produced, and the affect that is having on the economy of the world, and also its ecology, where so much land is being used for accommodating the animals and for growing their fodder. I think that, like our ancestors, we should eat less meat than we do now.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have tried to be a vegetarian in the past, and utterly failed.

You have to not eat meat and fish, you know  
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cyberman wrote:
I have tried to be a vegetarian in the past, and utterly failed.

You have to not eat meat and fish, you know  


I know! Even though in the Catholic world a fish is a vegetable, I realise that doesn't count in real life.

This is a big part of the reason for my failure - I do love fish. And lamb. And ham. And sausages. And steak pie. OK, I was the worst vegetarian ever.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is a big part of the reason for my failure - I do love fish. And lamb. And ham. And sausages. And steak pie.


A bacon sandwich, so it's always said, is/has been the downfall of many a vegetarian, not just the idea of eating one but the smell of it cooking - it's a common trope but I don't know how true it is. It doesn't affect me: after twenty-plus years even the smell of meat cooking is distinctly

I remember hearing once that apparently if you've been vegetarian for a long time (and I mean a long time - years and years and years) your digestive system loses the enzymes needed to digest meat properly, so that if you do happen to eat meat for one reason or another you're liable to end up with all sorts of trouble - terrible indigestion, heartburn, terrible wind, bloating, agonising cramps and even diarrhoea and whatnot. I've never followed this up with anybody medically trained so, again, I've no idea if this is total bobbins or not, although personal experience suggests that there might well be something to it.


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