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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:06 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Are all gods worshipped?



This is the definition from the WTBTS web site

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p. 968GOD

Anything that is worshiped can be termed a god, inasmuch as the worshiper attributes to it might greater than his own and venerates it.



So James, that which is NOT worshipped cannot, by the definition which you have agreed too, be termed a god.

You have a major problem.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Are all gods worshipped?



This is the definition from the WTBTS web site

Quote:


p. 968GOD

Anything that is worshiped can be termed a god, inasmuch as the worshiper attributes to it might greater than his own and venerates it.



So James, that which is NOT worshipped cannot, by the definition which you have agreed too, be termed a god.

You have a major problem.

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LeClerc


Caesar was considered to be a god so were the spirits that run a muck before the Great flood, read your Greek history.

Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days and afterward. During that time the sons of the true God continued to have relations with the daughters of men, and these bore sons to them. They were the mighty ones of old times, the men of fame.

2 Corinthians 4:4
among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through

Exodus 12:12
I will execute judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am Jehovah.

Exodus 15:11
Who among the gods is like you, O Jehovah? Who is like you, showing yourself mighty in holiness? The One to be feared with songs of praise, the One doing wonders.

Judges 10:13, 14
you abandoned me and served other gods. That is why I will not save you again. 14 Go to the gods whom you have chosen and call for help. Let them save you in your time of distress.”

Psalm 82:1
God takes his place in the divine assembly; In the middle of the gods he judges:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


Caesar was considered to be a god



Interesting James, do you consider that Caesar was a god ?

Those who considered Caesar a god worshipped him, did they not, those who did not consider Caesar a god did not worship him because they only bowed down to the One God, The God of Israel, YHWH.

Will move on to your other points when we have addressed the above.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


Caesar was considered to be a god



Interesting James, do you consider that Caesar was a god ?

Those who considered Caesar a god worshipped him, did they not, those who did not consider Caesar a god did not worship him because they only bowed down to the One God, The God of Israel, YHWH.

Will move on to your other points when we have addressed the above.

Regards

LeClerc


Are we still stating the obvious?

What do the scriptures say?

1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
 For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods and many “lords,

 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are

and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.

How many Fathers do we have?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


Caesar was considered to be a god



Interesting James, do you consider that Caesar was a god ?

Those who considered Caesar a god worshipped him, did they not, those who did not consider Caesar a god did not worship him because they only bowed down to the One God, The God of Israel, YHWH.

Will move on to your other points when we have addressed the above.

Regards

LeClerc


Are we still stating the obvious?

What do the scriptures say?

1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
 For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods and many “lords,

 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are

and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.

How many Fathers do we have?


So James you admit that you worship Caesar ??

How many Fathers.

Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a child is born; unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder. These will be his royal
titles: “Wonderful,” “Counselor,” “The Mighty God,” “The Everlasting Father,” “The Prince of Peace.”


How many Lords do we have ?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


Caesar was considered to be a god



Interesting James, do you consider that Caesar was a god ?

Those who considered Caesar a god worshipped him, did they not, those who did not consider Caesar a god did not worship him because they only bowed down to the One God, The God of Israel, YHWH.

Will move on to your other points when we have addressed the above.

Regards

LeClerc


Are we still stating the obvious?

What do the scriptures say?

1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
 For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods and many “lords,

 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are

and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.

How many Fathers do we have?


So James you admit that you worship Caesar ??

How many Fathers.

Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a child is born; unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder. These will be his royal
titles: “Wonderful,” “Counselor,” “The Mighty God,” “The Everlasting Father,” “The Prince of Peace.”


How many Lords do we have ?

Regards

LeClerc


Still the problem with terminology I see.

Even when some make it compulsory many do not respond.

Daniel 3:8-12
Now at that time some of the Chaldeans came forward and accused the Jews. They said to King Nebuchadnezzar: “O king, may you live on forever. You, O king, gave the command that every man who hears the sound of the horn, pipe, zither, triangular harp, stringed instrument, bagpipe, and all the other musical instruments should fall down and worship the image of gold;  and that whoever would not fall down and worship should be thrown into the burning fiery furnace. But there are certain Jews whom you appointed to administer the province of Babylon: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. These men have paid no regard to you, O king. They are not serving your gods, and they refuse to worship the image of gold that you have set up.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


Caesar was considered to be a god



Interesting James, do you consider that Caesar was a god ?

Those who considered Caesar a god worshipped him, did they not, those who did not consider Caesar a god did not worship him because they only bowed down to the One God, The God of Israel, YHWH.

Will move on to your other points when we have addressed the above.

Regards

LeClerc


Are we still stating the obvious?

What do the scriptures say?

1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
 For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods and many “lords,

 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are

and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.

How many Fathers do we have?


So James you admit that you worship Caesar ??

How many Fathers.

Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a child is born; unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder. These will be his royal
titles: “Wonderful,” “Counselor,” “The Mighty God,” “The Everlasting Father,” “The Prince of Peace.”


How many Lords do we have ?

Regards

LeClerc


Still the problem with terminology I see.

Even when some make it compulsory many do not respond.

Daniel 3:8-12
Now at that time some of the Chaldeans came forward and accused the Jews. They said to King Nebuchadnezzar: “O king, may you live on forever. You, O king, gave the command that every man who hears the sound of the horn, pipe, zither, triangular harp, stringed instrument, bagpipe, and all the other musical instruments should fall down and worship the image of gold;  and that whoever would not fall down and worship should be thrown into the burning fiery furnace. But there are certain Jews whom you appointed to administer the province of Babylon: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. These men have paid no regard to you, O king. They are not serving your gods, and they refuse to worship the image of gold that you have set up.


In the Septuagint what is the Greek word translated as ''worship'' in the passage you have quoted ?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


Caesar was considered to be a god



Interesting James, do you consider that Caesar was a god ?

Those who considered Caesar a god worshipped him, did they not, those who did not consider Caesar a god did not worship him because they only bowed down to the One God, The God of Israel, YHWH.

Will move on to your other points when we have addressed the above.

Regards

LeClerc


Are we still stating the obvious?

What do the scriptures say?

1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
 For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods and many “lords,

 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are

and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.

How many Fathers do we have?


So James you admit that you worship Caesar ??

How many Fathers.

Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a child is born; unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder. These will be his royal
titles: “Wonderful,” “Counselor,” “The Mighty God,” “The Everlasting Father,” “The Prince of Peace.”


How many Lords do we have ?

Regards

LeClerc


Still the problem with terminology I see.

Even when some make it compulsory many do not respond.

Daniel 3:8-12
Now at that time some of the Chaldeans came forward and accused the Jews. They said to King Nebuchadnezzar: “O king, may you live on forever. You, O king, gave the command that every man who hears the sound of the horn, pipe, zither, triangular harp, stringed instrument, bagpipe, and all the other musical instruments should fall down and worship the image of gold;  and that whoever would not fall down and worship should be thrown into the burning fiery furnace. But there are certain Jews whom you appointed to administer the province of Babylon: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. These men have paid no regard to you, O king. They are not serving your gods, and they refuse to worship the image of gold that you have set up.


In the Septuagint what is the Greek word translated as ''worship'' in the passage you have quoted ?

Regards

LeClerc


Hallow Leclerc long time no see

Will that Greek word change the number of fathers we have?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:


Caesar was considered to be a god



Interesting James, do you consider that Caesar was a god ?

Those who considered Caesar a god worshipped him, did they not, those who did not consider Caesar a god did not worship him because they only bowed down to the One God, The God of Israel, YHWH.

Will move on to your other points when we have addressed the above.

Regards

LeClerc


Are we still stating the obvious?

What do the scriptures say?

1 Corinthians 8:5, 6
 For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods and many “lords,

 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are

and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.

How many Fathers do we have?


So James you admit that you worship Caesar ??

How many Fathers.

Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a child is born; unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder. These will be his royal
titles: “Wonderful,” “Counselor,” “The Mighty God,” “The Everlasting Father,” “The Prince of Peace.”


How many Lords do we have ?

Regards

LeClerc


Still the problem with terminology I see.

Even when some make it compulsory many do not respond.

Daniel 3:8-12
Now at that time some of the Chaldeans came forward and accused the Jews. They said to King Nebuchadnezzar: “O king, may you live on forever. You, O king, gave the command that every man who hears the sound of the horn, pipe, zither, triangular harp, stringed instrument, bagpipe, and all the other musical instruments should fall down and worship the image of gold;  and that whoever would not fall down and worship should be thrown into the burning fiery furnace. But there are certain Jews whom you appointed to administer the province of Babylon: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. These men have paid no regard to you, O king. They are not serving your gods, and they refuse to worship the image of gold that you have set up.


In the Septuagint what is the Greek word translated as ''worship'' in the passage you have quoted ?

Regards

LeClerc


Hallow Leclerc long time no see

Will that Greek word change the number of fathers we have?


Maybe you would care to answer the question?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote[

Maybe you would care to answer the question?

Regards

LeClerc
[/quote]

Now that is strange as I considered what I posted  the answer to the question.

Perhaps you are still finding understanding terminology difficult? if that is not the som pleas explain why you ask the question?


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