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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:30 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

BALDERDASH! Too funny you!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, obviously not, then.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, those atheists are so insecure about their belief that there is no God, they have to form churches in former Christian churches. Listen to atheists sermons about feeling good about their belief in no God and clap and sing and laugh. Oh and they even take money offerings at each service. Shaker's pointing a finger and ignoring his three fingers pointing right back at him. Too funny.

Here's their guru/preacher/old testament prophet look a like.(smiley)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3ZjVzra9vQ8
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, those atheists are so insecure about their belief that there is no God, they have to form churches in former Christian churches. Listen to atheists sermons about feeling good about their belief in no God and clap and sing and laugh. Oh and they even take money offerings at each service.

Silly as far as I'm concerned, but probably fills a gap for some former believers (a great many, possibly most atheists have been religious at one stage or another, until they got better), in the sense that it offers a welcoming community for those people who feel a need for such things.

Can't see the attraction myself, but for the tiny minority who attend such things, it does no harm and if the money goes to charity, some good.

Most former churches over here (there are a lot) are either derelict or, if my area is anything to go by, are carpet warehouses.

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That would indicate some sort of advanced arthritis or similar I'd imagine?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pow wow wrote:
Yes, those atheists are so insecure about their belief that there is no God, they have to form churches in former Christian churches. Listen to atheists sermons about feeling good about their belief in no God and clap and sing and laugh. Oh and they even take money offerings at each service.

Silly as far as I'm concerned, but probably fills a gap for some former believers (a great many, possibly most atheists have been religious at one stage or another, until they got better), in the sense that it offers a welcoming community for those people who feel a need for such things.

Can't see the attraction myself, but for the tiny minority who attend such things, it does no harm and if the money goes to charity, some good.

Most former churches over here (there are a lot) are either derelict or, if my area is anything to go by, are carpet warehouses and pound shops.

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That would indicate some sort of advanced arthritis or similar, I'd imagine?  
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, say it isn't so. You can be an ordained atheist minister now. The atheist church fell way short of donations for their plan to make their sanctuary something grand and for spreading their religion. Note to myself--don't try and get an atheist to part with their money. (smiley). There is a rift in the atheist church/ religion already. A new denomination one could say. Too funny. Sucks to be them, godless and trying to copy everything one might find in a Christian service and church minus the most important feature, Almighty God. Great day in the morning, these atheists are insecure in their belief that there is no God.

http://firstchurchofatheism.com/
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can atheism really have a church?

A church is defined as an association of people who share a particular belief system. So yes, a church of atheism can really exist.


That's a new one on me - their idea of a church would seem to include trade unions, political parties and whatnot. Possibly even fan clubs.

Still, what can you do - Americans, eh?  
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Of course they can, I agree. They can just do what the original Sunday atheist's old testament prophet look alike did, buy or rent a real one and call all the atheists and wham, ya have yourself an atheist church with ALL the trimmings except for the only real important presence. (smilies)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Of course they can, I agree.

With which bit - that political parties, trade unions and fan clubs are "churches"?

I'd ease up on the medication old fella
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Shaker, you see your new church pays homage to themselves, to humanity.
A trade union doesn't meet in a former church to pay homage to humanity, nor does my Conservative party gather together to pay homage to themselves and humanity. You cannot become and ordained trade union minister able to perform weddings in the 1st church of Local 666. (smilies)
You cannot become an ordained minister in the 1st church of the Conservative Party of Canada.
You can become an ordained atheist minister and marry couples in the atheist Sunday Assembly churches. What joy, oh what fun. YIKES

Now go back to the first link on the Sunday assembly and review what that church promotes in their religious gatherings. There's a good fella. And you will note that they are copying everything possible from a Christian service except for the important One. They are very, very, insecure people, those godless atheists.

Now you mention fan clubs, well I would not doubt there are those that gather somewhere on the planet and pay homage and worship not God and not you, but Elvis. Can they become ordained Elvis ministers in the 1st church of the King of Rock and Roll? Some day I would not doubt.
Thank you, thank you very much.

Medication? Oh please keep up old timer. Pain free today praise God. No need for pain relief, so bite me!

Will you admit the atheist Sunday assembly is mimicking Christian services?


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