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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:46 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Was Jesus before Abraham or not?


If he was why all the juggling with the I AM?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaker,
There we go then, what's the fuss and shame shame from you about then. The religious leaders had nasty things to say to Christ and He returned it to them in kind. As far as a back handed strike across the right cheek, that is very different, if you ever care to do the research on what that ancient insult was all about.
So in future, try not to use scripture verses in blind ignorance. Atheists always do that for some reason.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pow wow wrote:
Shaker,
There we go then, what's the fuss and shame shame from you about then. The religious leaders had nasty things to say to Christ and He returned it to them in kind. As far as a back handed strike across the right cheek, that is very different, if you ever care to do the research on what that ancient insult was all about.
So in future, try not to use scripture verses in blind ignorance. Atheists always do that for some reason.

Absolutely no idea what this bizarre word salad is supposed to mean.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't care any less Shaker. An ape has a better knowledge of scripture than you do.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaker wrote:

Absolutely no idea what this bizarre word salad is supposed to mean.


It means 1 Corinthians 2, Ecclesiastes 11, John 14.

The Message:  

The unspiritual self, just as it is by nature, canít receive the gifts of Godís Spirit.

Just as youíll never understand the mystery of life forming in a pregnant woman, so youíll never understand the mystery at work in all that God does.

Christ (TM)on the Holy Spirit:  ďIf you love me, show it by doing what Iíve told you. I will talk to the Father, and Heíll provide you another Friend so that you will always have someone with you. This Friend is the Spirit of Truth. The godless world canít take Him in because it doesnít have eyes to see Him, doesnít know what to look for. But you know Him already because He has been staying with you, and will even be in you!"
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pow wow wrote:
Couldn't care any less Shaker. An ape has a better knowledge of scripture than you do.


Well, as humans we're apes anyway, actually, but if you're referring to primates other than H. sapiens, no, they don't - they have better things to do with their time, such as picking fleas off each other and throwing turds around.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ketty wrote:
Just as youíll never understand the mystery of life forming in a pregnant woman


We have genetics and embryology for that, don't we?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew you'd say something like that. †

ETA, you replied before my post posted, if you see what I mean - I was referring to the ape thing.  
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ketty wrote:
Shaker wrote:

Absolutely no idea what this bizarre word salad is supposed to mean.


It means 1 Corinthians 2, Ecclesiastes 11, John 14.

The Message: †

The unspiritual self, just as it is by nature, canít receive the gifts of Godís Spirit.

Just as youíll never understand the mystery of life forming in a pregnant woman, so youíll never understand the mystery at work in all that God does.

Christ (TM)on the Holy Spirit: †ďIf you love me, show it by doing what Iíve told you. I will talk to the Father, and Heíll provide you another Friend so that you will always have someone with you. This Friend is the Spirit of Truth. The godless world canít take Him in because it doesnít have eyes to see Him, doesnít know what to look for. But you know Him already because He has been staying with you, and will even be in you!"


Reading that makes it easy to see why some credulous people fall for this pretentious bull!  
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leonard James wrote:
Reading that makes it easy to see why some credulous people fall for this pretentious bull! †


Good morning dear Lennie.  

Nah!  Reading that makes it easy to see why some write as you have just done.  


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