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The Boyg
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:07 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Can you get to the point James?

If you're trying to equate the Christian symbolism of the cross to the idolisation of 'Nehushtan' by some of the Jews at the time of Hezekiah then I think that you're wrong to do so. But we can discuss that.

We can't have a meaningful discussion when you simply ignore other people's posts and fire off question after question instead.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which pope invented the worship of the cross?


Does anyone 'worship' the cross? I don't think so.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberman wrote:
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Which pope invented the worship of the cross?


Does anyone 'worship' the cross? I don't think so.


Then why do they kiss it and bow down to it?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
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Did the Jew start to venerate the pole with the serpent on as a magical object or not?

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Is this another "I'm-not-listening" post?
Why don't you answer the points raised before trying to make new ones...points such as your group being perfectly happy with the Cross for its' first seventy odd years?


You hate the bible students for living as you do, then you also hate them for not living as you do. which is it?

The object of their studying scripture was to find out what the creator had spoke on the mater then accept that as his will rather than stick to the inventions of ancient popes.

Is that ok with you or not?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamesJah wrote:
cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Which pope invented the worship of the cross?


Does anyone 'worship' the cross? I don't think so.


Then why do they kiss it and bow down to it?


I kiss all kinds of things! It doesn't mean I worship them. There is a tradition of kissing the wood of the cross, which is to venerate it aand to revere the blood which was spilled there, but not to worship the cross.

If you have been labouring all this time under the misapprehension that whenever someone kisses anyone or anything it is an act of worship, then I can see how you have become so dreadfully confused.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Which pope invented the worship of the cross?


Does anyone 'worship' the cross? I don't think so.


Then why do they kiss it and bow down to it?


I kiss all kinds of things! It doesn't mean I worship them. There is a tradition of kissing the wood of the cross, which is to venerate it aand to revere the blood which was spilled there, but not to worship the cross.

If you have been labouring all this time under the misapprehension that whenever someone kisses anyone or anything it is an act of worship, then I can see how you have become so dreadfully confused.


Not so confused that I have to wear a tin helmet??

Have you found the pope yet that introduced the cross as an object of veneration?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamesJah wrote:
cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Which pope invented the worship of the cross?


Does anyone 'worship' the cross? I don't think so.


Then why do they kiss it and bow down to it?


I kiss all kinds of things! It doesn't mean I worship them. There is a tradition of kissing the wood of the cross, which is to venerate it aand to revere the blood which was spilled there, but not to worship the cross.

If you have been labouring all this time under the misapprehension that whenever someone kisses anyone or anything it is an act of worship, then I can see how you have become so dreadfully confused.


Not so confused that I have to wear a tin helmet??

Have you found the pope yet that introduced the cross as an object of veneration?


Oh dear. You are aware that these pictures on here are not our true likenesses? Shaker is not a cat, for example. At least, I imagine not.

No, I haven't. To be honest, I haven't looked. Why, do you think it is important?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamesJah wrote:
cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Which pope invented the worship of the cross?


Does anyone 'worship' the cross? I don't think so.


Then why do they kiss it and bow down to it?


I kiss all kinds of things! It doesn't mean I worship them. There is a tradition of kissing the wood of the cross, which is to venerate it aand to revere the blood which was spilled there, but not to worship the cross.

If you have been labouring all this time under the misapprehension that whenever someone kisses anyone or anything it is an act of worship, then I can see how you have become so dreadfully confused.


Not so confused that I have to wear a tin helmet??

Have you found the pope yet that introduced the cross as an object of veneration?


Oh dear. You are aware that these pictures on here are not our true likenesses? Shaker is not a cat, for example. At least, I imagine not.

No, I haven't. To be honest, I haven't looked. Why, do you think it is important?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
cyberman wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Which pope invented the worship of the cross?


Does anyone 'worship' the cross? I don't think so.


Then why do they kiss it and bow down to it?


I kiss all kinds of things! It doesn't mean I worship them. There is a tradition of kissing the wood of the cross, which is to venerate it aand to revere the blood which was spilled there, but not to worship the cross.

If you have been labouring all this time under the misapprehension that whenever someone kisses anyone or anything it is an act of worship, then I can see how you have become so dreadfully confused.


Not so confused that I have to wear a tin helmet??

Have you found the pope yet that introduced the cross as an object of veneration?


Oh dear. You are aware that these pictures on here are not our true likenesses? Shaker is not a cat, for example. At least, I imagine not.

No, I haven't. To be honest, I haven't looked. Why, do you think it is important?


Depends on ones preference if one is happy with Papacy doctrine or not?

Some try to align themselves with scripture in an effort to do what the creator required of them.

He sais Get out of her MY PEOPLE

quit touching the unclean thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberman wrote:


Oh dear. You are aware that these pictures on here are not our true likenesses?
Oh no, does that mean that I should change my one?


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