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""God TV" - a critique - by a Christian.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:23 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Shaker, good grief, you must not get invited to many parties.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shaker, good grief, you must not get invited to many parties.


Quite a few. Not the sort of parties where you'd find your sort, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not realize we had "God TV" in the UK, what channel is it on?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

580, apparently.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, might have a gander.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Leo, that would be your gullibility to the notion there is no God, yes?

What's gullible about saying you don't believe in something for which there's no coherent, consistent definition (i.e. one which starts off with all the firmness and rigour of Batchelor's mushy peas and keeps changing depending on how many people you ask),


If I ask ten people about my grandad, and get ten different ideas about what kind of man he was, does that reflect at all on the existence of my grandad?

Of course, the definition of "grandad" would tell you nothing at all about him or his existence.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried 580 and cannot get it on my TV system. From what I've read above, seems like I've not missed much :-).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeRan wrote:
I tried 580 and cannot get it on my TV system. From what I've read above, seems like I've not missed much :-).


Is 580 a Sky thing?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno. Don't have SKY so that maybe why I can't get it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I ask ten people about my grandad, and get ten different ideas about what kind of man he was, does that reflect at all on the existence of my grandad?

Of course, the definition of "grandad" would tell you nothing at all about him or his existence.

A specific male personage verifiable as your grandad (the father of your father) can be definitively demonstrated to exist. Ideas of what he was like/could have been like/should have been like are, let's face it, fatuous, idle opinions, utterly irrelevant in the absence of any firm evidence that there's anybody to have such opinions about.


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