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Do Church people all claimto be Christian?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:39 pm    Post subject: Do Church people all claimto be Christian?  Reply with quote

Many church members ignore or find understanding the Revelation to difficult so ignore it.

In reality the revelation was by Jesus Christ of things he could not tell his disciples until he had returned to heaven with the paid ransom so that his father could then reveal the matters to him. which chapter on shows to us.


Most of todays churches are just the same as their mother church with a little variation, that is why Babylon the great is called the mother of the harlots meaning all the breakaway churches are just branches of the same tree, with all the same false doctrines does it not?

All still have a trinity, birth days, honour the flag, venerate a wooden cross, torment in hell and, veneration of images, to name a few.

So how many Christians take seriously what Jesus spoke on the matter?


Revelation 18:4
I heard another voice out of heaven say: Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.


Revelation 17:18
the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.



Revelation 17:5, 6
On her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the prostitutes and of the disgusting things of the earth.  And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67f2JjeZ_84          

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah....
Another apocalypse a la Brooklyn thread...again.
I'll answer the question posed in the title, though.

NO.
Not all who go to church claim to be Christian.
Nor should they.
Some come seeking answers.
Some come to sing.
Some come for weddings, funerals, etc.
That's fine in my book.
Going to church doesn't make one a Christian (Nor, thank God, does reading the Watchtower)

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(Nor, thank God, does reading the Watchtower)

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That is one of the reasons the Watchtower advocates reading the scriptures for answers, ok?

*** w13 2/15 p. 22 Beware of the Intentions of the Heart ***
IDENTIFY YOUR INTENTIONS—HOW?
Read the Bible daily and meditate on what it says. “The word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit,” wrote the apostle Paul. God’s message found in the Bible “is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart.” (Heb. 4:12)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamesJah wrote:
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(Nor, thank God, does reading the Watchtower)

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That is one of the reasons the Watchtower advocates reading the scriptures for answers, ok?

*** w13 2/15 p. 22 Beware of the Intentions of the Heart ***
IDENTIFY YOUR INTENTIONS—HOW?
Read the Bible daily and meditate on what it says. “The word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit,” wrote the apostle Paul. God’s message found in the Bible “is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart.” (Heb. 4:12)


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Fine.
Then go to a Bible study which does not involve the Watchtower - especially because, with all the flip-flops, lies, evasions and obfuscations contained in its;' pages, it is as reliable as a match in a hurricane.

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/flip-flops.html

and...
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/faithful-discreet-slave.php
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
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Jim posted

(Nor, thank God, does reading the Watchtower)

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That is one of the reasons the Watchtower advocates reading the scriptures for answers, ok?

*** w13 2/15 p. 22 Beware of the Intentions of the Heart ***
IDENTIFY YOUR INTENTIONS—HOW?
Read the Bible daily and meditate on what it says. “The word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit,” wrote the apostle Paul. God’s message found in the Bible “is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart.” (Heb. 4:12)


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Fine.
Then go to a Bible study which does not involve the Watchtower - especially because, with all the flip-flops, lies, evasions and obfuscations contained in its;' pages, it is as reliable as a match in a hurricane.

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/flip-flops.html

and...
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/faithful-discreet-slave.php


Who pointed out that we are in the time to wake up and get out of Babylon the Great and who rants and raves not to listen to such ones???
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What...the 'faithful and discreet slave'....whose definition, as per your own organisation, has changed so often with the mire of duplicity created by their own warped theology?
And we're supposed to trust that lot?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What...the 'faithful and discreet slave'....whose definition, as per your own organisation, has changed so often with the mire of duplicity created by their own warped theology?
And we're supposed to trust that lot?


You hate them obviously so who do you put in their place,?

I do not know who can accept having been fooled all their life gracefully.

You for example have even incensed you own form of trinity have you not?

Then the light does get brighter for some others gave too much resentment to see the wisdom that is written in scripture.

Keeping the traditions of Babylon the Great is not getting out of her, now is it?
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JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
What...the 'faithful and discreet slave'....whose definition, as per your own organisation, has changed so often with the mire of duplicity created by their own warped theology?
And we're supposed to trust that lot?


You hate them obviously so who do you put in their place,?
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I hate no-one, James.
I do not trust cults which change their doctrine at the drop of the hat.
Since they have never had a place in my life, I have no need to replace them with anythingg.
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I do not know who can accept having been fooled all their life gracefully.
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Agreed.
So leave the false Brooklyn deceivers.
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You for example have even incensed you own form of trinity have you not?
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My form of Trinity?
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Then the light does get brighter for some others gave too much resentment to see the wisdom that is written in scripture.
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And others are blinded by false doctrines from a cult in Brooklyn.
Strange, innit?
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Keeping the traditions of Babylon the Great is not getting out of her, now is it?

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If you ditched the theological gobbledegook which infests your thinking, you might even find a new life in Christ.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
JamesJah wrote:
Jim wrote:
What...the 'faithful and discreet slave'....whose definition, as per your own organisation, has changed so often with the mire of duplicity created by their own warped theology?
And we're supposed to trust that lot?


You hate them obviously so who do you put in their place,?
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I hate no-one, James.
I do not trust cults which change their doctrine at the drop of the hat.
Since they have never had a place in my life, I have no need to replace them with anythingg.
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I do not know who can accept having been fooled all their life gracefully.
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Agreed.
So leave the false Brooklyn deceivers.
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You for example have even incensed you own form of trinity have you not?
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My form of Trinity?
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Then the light does get brighter for some others gave too much resentment to see the wisdom that is written in scripture.
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And others are blinded by false doctrines from a cult in Brooklyn.
Strange, innit?
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Keeping the traditions of Babylon the Great is not getting out of her, now is it?

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If you ditched the theological gobbledegook which infests your thinking, you might even find a new life in Christ.


Where would that be exactly?

No state religion holds to the truth of Gods word so who has all the gobble se gook?

Micah 4:2
Many nations will go and say: Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah And to the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths. For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem.

I have not met any of Christendom's teachers who know where the real mount Zion has been established today.

Daniel 2:44
.In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever

Which Kings when?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which Kings when?

Go on then...........you know that you want to.


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