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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:02 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Hello James

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Like most humans they will see themselves and make judgements that is what humans do is it not?

They will not see my spirit or my rank in the heaves they will see what they want to see and no more.



What do the ones, who you call brothers and sisters, see James ?

2 Corinthinas 5 NWT
16  So from now on we know no man from a fleshly viewpoint

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:


Like most humans they will see themselves and make judgements that is what humans do is it not?

They will not see my spirit or my rank in the heaves they will see what they want to see and no more.



What do the ones, who you call brothers and sisters, see James ?

2 Corinthinas 5 NWT
16  So from now on we know no man from a fleshly viewpoint

Regards

LeClerc


2 Timothy 2:14-17
.Keep reminding them of these things, instructing them before God not to fight about words, something of no usefulness at all because it harms those listening. Do your utmost to present yourself approved to God, a workman with nothing to be ashamed of, handling the word of the truth aright. But reject empty speeches that violate what is holy, for they will lead to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene. .
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:


Like most humans they will see themselves and make judgements that is what humans do is it not?

They will not see my spirit or my rank in the heaves they will see what they want to see and no more.



What do the ones, who you call brothers and sisters, see James ?

2 Corinthinas 5 NWT
16  So from now on we know no man from a fleshly viewpoint

Regards

LeClerc


2 Timothy 2:14-17
.Keep reminding them of these things, instructing them before God not to fight about words, something of no usefulness at all because it harms those listening. Do your utmost to present yourself approved to God, a workman with nothing to be ashamed of, handling the word of the truth aright. But reject empty speeches that violate what is holy, for they will lead to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene. .


A reminder James.

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Morning James

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How many names did the lamb of God have?

 like to list them?


How about we begin here

John 17 NWT
12  When I was with them, I used to watch over them on account of your own name, which you have given me;

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One how about the others are they not conducive to your ideology?


Maybe James you would like to substantiate, using the original Hebrew meaning, the assertion that you have made here

JamesJah wrote:

His brothers or those making up the Almighty God's heavenly wife like organization, the ones he was elevated above after he provided the Ransom for mankind as the man Jesus, both names have the same meaning.

shortened form of Michael or Micaiah, meaning “Who Is Like Jehovahl?”



Maybe you are unaware of the fact that the Hebraic meaning of the Hebrew name Miyka'el, meaning, who is like El, is rhetorical.

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In what why and on who's authority?


Scripture.

Psalm 113 NWT
Praise Jah!Offer praise, you servants of Jehovah, Praise the name of Jehovah. 2  May Jehovah’s name be praised From now on and forever. 3  From the rising of the sun to its setting, Let Jehovah’s name be praised. 4  Jehovah is high above all the nations; His glory is above the heavens. 5  Who is like Jehovah our God, The one who dwells on high? 6  He stoops down to look on heaven and earth, 7  Raising the lowly from the dust. He lifts up the poor from the ash heap 8  In order to make him sit with nobles, With the nobles of his people. 9  He gives the barren woman a home As a happy mother with children. Praise Jah!

If you examine the first part of the name Miyka'el, in Hebrew, you will find it is the common inquisitive particle that seeks after identity, who?

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American English translation.


Thats the interprtation even the Watchtower applies James, are you saying they are wrong ?

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Insight volume 2
The very name Michael, asking as it does, “Who Is Like God?” points to the fact that Jehovah God is without like, or equal,


You have tried to mislead James, haven't you, and not for the first time ?

The Name Y'shua (Jesus) and Miyka'el DO NOT have the same meaning, as you have tried to imply.

Maybe now we can more on and examine the the other parts of your assertion.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You know as well as I do that Jesus is not what the son of Almighty God was called in heaven, according to the Revelation he has many names according to the mission he is carrying out.

Sso if you have a problem with one of the son of the Almighty God's name that is not unusual as many find some things difficult to understand at first some things require more understanding and research, OK Leclerc
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello James

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Leclerc
You know as well as I do that Jesus is not what the son of Almighty God was called in heaven, according to the Revelation he has many names according to the mission he is carrying out.

Sso if you have a problem with one of the son of the Almighty God's name that is not unusual as many find some things difficult to understand at first some things require more understanding and research, OK Leclerc


No problem James, if you check the Scriptures, the Logos (Greek for Hebrew Dabar) of YHWH, when becoming flesh, by The Spirit through the womb of Miryam, was given the name Y'shua.

Where in the Scriptures is Dabar YHWH ever given the name Miyka'el ?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Leclerc
You know as well as I do that Jesus is not what the son of Almighty God was called in heaven, according to the Revelation he has many names according to the mission he is carrying out.

Sso if you have a problem with one of the son of the Almighty God's name that is not unusual as many find some things difficult to understand at first some things require more understanding and research, OK Leclerc


No problem James, if you check the Scriptures, the Logos (Greek for Hebrew Dabar) of YHWH, when becoming flesh, by The Spirit through the womb of Miryam, was given the name Y'shua.

Where in the Scriptures is Dabar YHWH ever given the name Miyka'el ?

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LeClerc


When was he given the name no one knows accept those to whom it has been give how many new names can you list that we do know?

By the way I read English quite well and am quite happy conversing in English unless you find that too difficult then I will put up with revised English Hebrew.

Revelation 3:12, 13
.I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name. Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Leclerc
You know as well as I do that Jesus is not what the son of Almighty God was called in heaven, according to the Revelation he has many names according to the mission he is carrying out.

Sso if you have a problem with one of the son of the Almighty God's name that is not unusual as many find some things difficult to understand at first some things require more understanding and research, OK Leclerc


No problem James, if you check the Scriptures, the Logos (Greek for Hebrew Dabar) of YHWH, when becoming flesh, by The Spirit through the womb of Miryam, was given the name Y'shua.

Where in the Scriptures is Dabar YHWH ever given the name Miyka'el ?

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LeClerc


When was he given the name no one knows accept those to whom it has been give how many new names can you list that we do know?

By the way I read English quite well and am quite happy conversing in English unless you find that too difficult then I will put up with revised English Hebrew.

Revelation 3:12, 13
.I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name. Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’


The reason you cannot answer the question James is because it is not in the scriptures is it, because Dabar YHWH was never given the the name Miyka'el.

The scriptural truth James is that, and I will stick to English for your benefit, Israel's Messiah never has been the archangel Michael.

However the name given to the Righteous Branch of David is in the scriptures.

Transliterated into English for you, YHWH Tsidqenuw.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leclerc  Who was the angel in charge of the Ark?

Who had oversight of the Hebrews coming from Egypt?

Can it be proved?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello James

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Leclerc  Who was the angel in charge of the Ark?

Who had oversight of the Hebrews coming from Egypt?

Can it be proved?


Can it be proved James, let us see.

According to the scriptures, was the one you are referring to ever worshipped ?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeClerc wrote:
Hello James

JamesJah wrote:
Leclerc  Who was the angel in charge of the Ark?

Who had oversight of the Hebrews coming from Egypt?

Can it be proved?


Can it be proved James, let us see.

According to the scriptures, was the one you are referring to ever worshipped ?

Regards

I see that you still have not gotten used to the way angels pass on the instructions they have been given, give it a try some time.

Ask yourself is this messenger talking in the first person context?

Remember all the instructions Given in the Revelation was passed down a chain of command starting with the Almighty who revealed to Jesus and was passed on by a messenger of the Gods, is that not so?

It was the same in the dessert also.





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