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Ketty
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Rules of the Forum  Reply with quote

Ju-on wrote:


Maybe it is just me but......

If someone intentionally makes a statement that you may disagree with - in real life as well as on any forum - my first reaction is to call that person an Idiot and then explain to them why they are an Idiot.


Yes, hopefully it's just you.  :twisted:

Just because somebody has a differing point of view it doesn't mean to say that it's they, or even anyone, is an idiot.

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Have you ever thought "what a stupid thing to say"  


No, I find myself thinking "what a peculiar (or alternative) thing to say".  

Ju-on wrote:
and found yourself, whist instructing them why it was stupid, calling into question their mental capacity to fundamentally grasp a concept that is obvious to others?


No, because that's not a nice thing to do and in fact, imo, reduces the standing of the "instructor" even if their counter argument is more appealing or accurate.

Ju-on wrote:
Sometimes it is difficult to address the argument without insulting the person/poster.


No it's not; it's called self-control and maturity.  :P  


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Rules of the Forum Reply with quote

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Welcome to the forum.

1) This forum is for members of all religious persuasions, which means those of some religious affiliation and none at all. Inevitably this will give rise to debate, but however full and frank the exchange of ideas may be, please keep it civil and courteous. By all means criticise ideas but not people. Address the argument, not the person. Messages which could be deemed purely to cause offence/distress to others will be removed, and persistent offenders in this regard will receive a warning and ultimately may be banned. It’s entirely possible to have strong opinions and to disagree while remaining polite. No area is out of bounds, but the Prayer Room and Bible Study sections are not for debate on the efficacy or otherwise of prayer and on scriptural references. For debate on these issues please use All Faiths & None.

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Thank you for your co-operation. Now enjoy yourselves.


Maybe it is just me but......

If someone intentionally makes a statement that you may disagree with - in real life as well as on any forum - my first reaction is to call that person an Idiot and then explain to them why they are an Idiot.

Have you ever thought "what a stupid thing to say"  and found yourself, whist instructing them why it was stupid, calling into question their mental capacity to fundamentally grasp a concept that is obvious to others?

Sometimes it is difficult to address the argument without insulting the person/poster.


You do not have to insult the poster if you disagree with an argument - insulting the poster does nothing but inflame people.
It is reasonable to call an argument "stupid" but not the person.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noooo  if you insult the post you are insulting the poster and we all know how sensitive some posters are...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ju-on wrote:
Noooo  if you insult the post you are insulting the poster and we all know how sensitive some posters are...


Well, yes, some people will take an insult about their argument as a personal insult. That can't be helped. There is an element that if you can't take your argument being criticised, then perhaps forums aren't the right arena for you...

But the person should not be insulted.

So it's ok to say that what the person wrote is idiotic, but it's not ok to say that the person is an idiot.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ju-on wrote:
Noooo  if you insult the post you are insulting the poster and we all know how sensitive some posters are...


Love the emoticon!  I may borrow it from time to time.  :-)

I agree with Lexi's reply to the points.  Criticise the post but never the poster.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh Nous allons voir - je continue de dire qu'il est plus facile de passer par le trou d'une aiguille qu'elle ne l'est pas à heurter la sensibilité de certaines affiches.

Je vis dans l'espérance ...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ju-on wrote:
Ahhh Nous allons voir - je continue de dire qu'il est plus facile de passer par le trou d'une aiguille qu'elle ne l'est pas à heurter la sensibilité de certaines affiches.

Je vis dans l'espérance ...


I think maybe you're correct but we cannot be responsible for the reactions of others if we play by the rules and yes, hope's all some have . . .  ;-)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still say you cannot help but insult the poster if you insult the post - it's up to that poster to suck it up and take it on the chin........ in fact it should make them review their post and understand what may be wrong with their original point/post and not go bleating on about "the injustice" of being challenged.....


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Ahhh We'll see - I still say it is easier to go through the eye of a needle than it is not to upset the sensibilities of some posters.

I live in hope ...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a huge difference is saying a persons post is wrong for this and that reason and being offensive. And if one cannot refute another person's arguments without being so then they who have a problem and should get it sorted out. It's really not hard to be one without the other even though it might mean biting one's lip every so often.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what you are saying Paul - but sometimes you just feel the need to verbally take the poster and give them a good shake...

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