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Ketty
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:27 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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Are there any things that should be above humour? e.g. berevement.


Humour is in the eye of the beholder.  Morticians, funeral directors and medics will attest to the black humour surrounding death, but bereavement is slightly different.  If somebody pokes fun at another's grieving, that's more a reflection upon the insensitivity and crassness of the 'humourist' rather than their victim.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ketty wrote:
 If somebody pokes fun at another's grieving, that's more a reflection upon the insensitivity and crassness of the 'humourist' rather than their victim.


There's one of my bugbears. When there is a tragedy in the news, of course there are always the office wags and barstool jesters who create or pass on the obligatory jokes about it. That's fine - here's the annoying thing:

Often the joke is utterly crap. No humorous content at all. No comedy merit. But people pretend to be amused, simply because they fear that they will be seen as prudish or oversensitive if they don't. This leads to the 'humourist' mistakenly believing he* has made a funny joke, when he has not. Really irritating.

* I know I have used gender specific language here - but in these cases, I cannot think of a single occasion in my life when the offender has not been a bloke.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="cyberman:124225"]
Ketty wrote:
 If somebody pokes fun at another's grieving, that's more a reflection upon the insensitivity and crassness of the 'humourist' rather than their victim.


There's one of my bugbears. When there is a tragedy in the news, of course there are always the office wags and barstool jesters who create or pass on the obligatory jokes about it. That's fine - here's the annoying thing:

Often the joke is utterly crap. No humorous content at all. No comedy merit. But people pretend to be amused, simply because they fear that they will be seen as prudish or oversensitive if they don't. This leads to the 'humourist' mistakenly believing he* has made a funny joke, when he has not. Really irritating.

* I know I have used gender specific language here - but in these cases, I cannot think of a single occasion in my life when the offender has not been a bloke.[quote]

Yes, these things do tend to be male dominated. They also tend to rely on their shock value.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

genghiscant wrote:
Are there any things that should be above humour? e.g. berevement.
When it comes to mine I can assure the last laugh will be on me. The service is 2 hours 50 minutes long
5Hymns each of minimum 5 verses, Psalm 109 the longest in the Psalter, the Organist asked to play Bach BV540 Oh and coming in to Pacheballs Canon in D
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, still not very Christian, then.
I had a distressing time counselling a bereaved daughter last year.
Her dad - a very close friend of mine, and minister, had died in Canada.
His widow organised a memorial service for him, consisting of classical, choral and high brow organ pieces - and a 30 minute eulogy delivered by herself which never mentioned the deceased, or indeed, God.
The music was the kind of stuff James, my friend, avidly loathed.
The service lasted nearly two and three quarter hours - and the minister of the church had to cut it short.
The family members who had to endure such a performance - and that's what it was, rather than an act of worship, alongside grieving for their father's loss, were reduced to sheer, virulent anger...which is about as unchristian as I think one can get.
Not one bit of that could help the body in the box, of course - no funeral can.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Uncle died two years ago. His funeral was humanist & the last piece of music that he had requested was by Queen, "Another one Bites the Dust".


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