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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Christianity abroad  Reply with quote

Muslim countries and much of Asia does not trust christians very much. This is because they don't believe christianity respects their religions and tries to steal people away from islam, hinduism, buddhism, etc by converting them to christianity.

Are other faiths right to feel unsafe when christianity comes into their country?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not particularly an issue with Christianity.

If I can use the example of India - there had been a kernel of Christianity for hundreds of years - but they felt a great sense of threat when Islam swept in - so much so that Sikhism was born and was considered a warrior religion against Islam.

There are problems in Orissa at the moment between Hindu's and Christians - but it's not confined to those two - there is a similar problem between Hindu's and Buddhists in the area. It's because of the caste system - many in the dalit caste (untouchables) are converting - because once they convert they are no longer dalit. This is seen as a threat to the social order of the area.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had never considered that angle of it, that an untouchable can lose their low status simply by changing their religion. An incentive for all of them to change.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lexilogio wrote:
It's not particularly an issue with Christianity.

If I can use the example of India - there had been a kernel of Christianity for hundreds of years - but they felt a great sense of threat when Islam swept in - so much so that Sikhism was born and was considered a warrior religion against Islam.


I have heard this said before and I don't think that it's strictly true.

Sikhism became militarised as result of the Mughal Empire not Islam perse, since Islam had been in India long before the Mughal Empire and Sikhism itself was already existant before any such conflicts with the Mughal Empire, and in fact, it wasn't until the time of the 5th Guru that any of this even took place:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/rel...s/sikhism/history/history_1.shtml


And the first words of Guru Nanak, and therefore, in a way, the first teaching of Sikhism, kind of belie the assertion that Sikhism was born as a response to Islam:

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There is neither Hindu nor Mussulman (Muslim) so whose path shall I follow? I shall follow God's path. God is neither Hindu nor Mussulman and the path which I follow is God's.


( although to follow God's path is the definition of being a "Muslim", but whatever I guess)  

Sikhism was born out of reaction to unelightened practice of religion rather than Islam

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The founder of the Sikh religion was Guru Nanak who was born in 1469. He preached a message of love and understanding and criticized the blind rituals of the Hindus and Muslims.

http://www.sikhs.org/summary.htm


In fact, oddly enough, he stuck me as an extremely Islamic person  when I read about him:
http://www.sikhs.org/guru1.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Ayub.

I haven't studied Sikhism - those comments came from Sikh friends of mine, who may have been oversimplifying the issue.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Christianity abroad Reply with quote

Silver wrote:
Muslim countries and much of Asia does not trust christians very much. This is because they don't believe christianity respects their religions and tries to steal people away from islam, hinduism, buddhism, etc by converting them to christianity.

Are other faiths right to feel unsafe when christianity comes into their country?


Christianity started in Asia, and since it began has never been absent in Asia - it is not foreign or new in that continent.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Christianity abroad Reply with quote

Hi, Cyberman;
Agreed.
Sadly, though, many Western denominations inflicted their own brand of worship and practice - to the extent that you had, in the 1950s, Indians with only the most rudimentary grasp of English blithely singing Moody & Sankey hymns which they hadn't a clue about. At least the Church, which is growing rapidly in India and China, is developing in its own ways, with minimal interference from the West, but support, through groups like Open Doors, if they ask for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several years ago I was driving around with my sikh friend and we went past a Baptist church that I had been to a few times. I mentioned to my friend that I had been inside that church. He replied, "Jesus is good, but I don't trust those muslims." I dropped the subject.

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