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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote



One of these days one of you guys will pin me down to something, so far I've been just about everything there is.

Here, a question, is someone who is led by the spirit of trutha Gnostic?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bnabernard wrote:


One of these days one of you guys will pin me down to something, so far I've been just about everything there is.

Here, a question, is someone who is led by the spirit of trutha Gnostic?

bernard (hug)


And here is an answer, given in love   ,you may accept or reject it, as you desire.

If a person is led by the Spirit of Truth they recognised the truth in the scriptures as the entire, inspired word of YHWH. In which case they would not pick and choose which parts of those inspired scriptures were true and dismiss others.

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
2 Timothy 3:16


YHWH has protected His word to us so that we may not be misled into falsehood, we now have a canon of scripture that is entire and with the Holy Spirit's teaching is all that is needed to understand YHWH's desire for humanity.

YHWH has given us a spirit of sound mind, not confusion, anything else is from the enemy, who was known as The deciever and The father of lies from the beginning.

Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light and would mislead us all away from our true and sincere devotion to our Lord and God, this has been his aim since the beginning, see Ezekiel 28 especially verse 12 onwards. Read the book of Job, and when you understand the enemy's wiles, perhaps you will be more careful what you consider as truth and lies.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light and would mislead us all away from our true and sincere devotion to our Lord and God, this has been his aim since the beginning, see Ezekiel 28 especially verse 12 onwards. Read the book of Job, and when you understand the enemy's wiles, perhaps you will be more careful what you consider as truth and lies.


Honey, what can I say, you leave me with a sense of loss to those I come to love,
In you own words you recognise that there is an angle of light that is indeed not, yet you have the history of those who chose your scripture for you to look at today with a hindsight not given to the people of the day who could not recognise the angel of deception, but you have the whole picture now to look at and not be decieved as they.

Those who gave you the scripture and tagged it with the scripture given by God have they given you the word of God, no they water it down, they make it their own, they use scripture of a new testimonie to gather you in chains of darkness and lead you to a place of their own.

Had the people been men to share the word of God then they would have gone to the word of God without adding and taking away. Where are the ones chosen by the son of God, the ones who shared intamicy with the son and the Father, those same ones who had their minds opened to the truths concerning the words of God.

Be one who does not trust and you will have revelation through the spirit of truth for who needs a spirit of truth if the truth exists for all to see?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bearing in mind that I am a non trinitarian then this little gnostic example, and remember you all scorn the gnostic teaching, might interest you

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/allogene.html

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Honey, what can I say, you leave me with a sense of loss to those I come to love,


Then I apologise for that absolutely Bernard, love is very much needed in the world today  

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In you own words you recognise that there is an angle of light that is indeed not, yet you have the history of those who chose your scripture for you to look at today with a hindsight not given to the people of the day who could not recognise the angel of deception, but you have the whole picture now to look at and not be decieved as they
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Those who gave you the scripture and tagged it with the scripture given by God have they given you the word of God, no they water it down, they make it their own, they use scripture of a new testimonie to gather you in chains of darkness and lead you to a place of their own.


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Had the people been men to share the word of God then they would have gone to the word of God without adding and taking away. Where are the ones chosen by the son of God, the ones who shared intamicy with the son and the Father, those same ones who had their minds opened to the truths concerning the words of God.



Then as far as I can see, we have a dilemma, whether we trust all of the scripture as it is handed down to us and in it's entirety. as the inspired word of God or we reject it all out of hand, I don't think it is good to pick and choose some and not others.

I personally believe that YHWH is powerful enough to ensure that what we need has all been inspirationally included in the canon.

Look at what happened quite miraculously at Qumran for instance.

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Be one who does not trust and you will have revelation through the spirit of truth for who needs a spirit of truth if the truth exists for all to see?

bernard (hug)


I am just one of many thousand who trust that YHWH can and does reveal Himself to us in many ways, and one of those very important ways is through the God breathed and inspired scriptures, they are so accurate, both in prophesy (hindsight) and what we see being revealed in this day also, that for me at least they are beyond doubt.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a quick question Bernard.

What makes you believe that you are Spirit led, how can you be sure that the Holy Spirit is manifest in your life.
I am not being unkind Bernard, just interested how the Spirit leads you personally?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bnabernard wrote:
Bearing in mind that I am a non trinitarian then this little gnostic example, and remember you all scorn the gnostic teaching, might interest you

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/allogene.html

bernard    (hug)


The scriptures warn time and again, against recieving and  accepting a different gospel than the one handed down to us by YHWH and through the Apostles.

Messiah Yeshua Himself warns right at the end of the scriptures at Revelation, against adding or taking away from them.

Honey  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honey 56 wrote:
bnabernard wrote:
Bearing in mind that I am a non trinitarian then this little gnostic example, and remember you all scorn the gnostic teaching, might interest you

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/allogene.html

bernard    (hug)


The scriptures warn time and again, against recieving and  accepting a different gospel than the one handed down to us by YHWH and through the Apostles.

Messiah Yeshua Himself warns right at the end of the scriptures at Revelation, against adding or taking away from them.

Honey  


But there it is and there it stands,  

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